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Dec 29, 2011 4:11 AM
wildcats20;1029686 wrote:JJ couldn't and still can't get his own shot.
He was a lottery pick ,I think they had expectations that he would be a knock down 3 pt shooter and he hasn't been. He is also shooting Free throws 6% worse than in College. I think it is the same distance in the Pro's.
Dec 28, 2011 11:11pm
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Dec 29, 2011 4:13 AM
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Dec 28, 2011 11:13pm
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Dec 29, 2011 4:45 AM
Skyhook79;1029644 wrote:Worse: Chris Duhon
JJ Red****
Shelden Williams
Mike Dunleavy
Dhantay Jones
Trajan Langdon
Shavlik Randolph
John Wall
Jeff Green

Better: Kevin Love
Lamarcus Aldridge
James Harden
Stephen Curry
Russell Westbrook
Al Horford
How much better of a rookie year did you want Wall to have lmao?

16ppg 8 apg and 5 rpg 2spg as a rookie playing 69 games
Dec 28, 2011 11:45pm
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Dec 29, 2011 7:49 AM
Skyhook79;1029644 wrote:Worse: Chris Duhon
JJ Reddick
Shelden Williams
Mike Dunleavy
Dhantay Jones
Trajan Langdon
Shavlik Randolph
John Wall
Jeff Green

Better: Kevin Love
Lamarcus Aldridge
James Harden
Stephen Curry
Russell Westbrook
Al Horford
??
Dec 29, 2011 2:49am
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Dec 29, 2011 1:04 PM
My guess is that he expected Wall to come in like Rose, and Wall has been hit a bit by the injury bug in his young NBA career.
Dec 29, 2011 8:04am
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Dec 29, 2011 2:26 PM
Rose: 16.8 ppg, 6.3 assists, 3.9 rebounds, 0.8 steals
Wall: 16.4 ppg, 8.3 assists, 4.1 rebounds, 1.8 steals

I'd say Wall was better than Rose his rookie year. His team just wasn't a playoff team.
Dec 29, 2011 9:26am
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Dec 29, 2011 3:02 PM
I find it comical that people think Wall isn't that good. Dude dropped over 8 dimes in his rookie year and plays on one of the worst teams in the entire league. Yet he's overrated...
Dec 29, 2011 10:02am
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Dec 29, 2011 3:10 PM
Azubuike24;1029842 wrote:I find it comical that people think Wall isn't that good. Dude dropped over 8 dimes in his rookie year and plays on one of the worst teams in the entire league. Yet he's overrated...
Its common that people don't think he's good? Perhaps he doesn't get the pub that Rose got because he plays in Washington on a horrible team but I haven't heard any negativity towards him other than he misses games.
Dec 29, 2011 10:10am
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Dec 29, 2011 4:06 PM
Lol skyhook

I've got to stop so he will as well.
Dec 29, 2011 11:06am
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Dec 29, 2011 4:18 PM
Hb31187;1029707 wrote:How much better of a rookie year did you want Wall to have lmao?

16ppg 8 apg and 5 rpg 2spg as a rookie playing 69 games
He can't shoot (40% & 29% from 3's) and he turns the ball over (4 per game, 2nd most in the league) way too much and has one of the lowest assist/turnover ratio's in the league for pg. I expected more for a #1 pick.
Dec 29, 2011 11:18am
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Dec 29, 2011 4:20 PM
Azubuike24;1029842 wrote:I find it comical that people think Wall isn't that good. Dude dropped over 8 dimes in his rookie year and plays on one of the worst teams in the entire league. Yet he's overrated...
Dude also gave 4 dimes back a game.
Dec 29, 2011 11:20am
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Dec 29, 2011 5:21 PM
Skyhook79;1029896 wrote:He can't shoot (40% & 29% from 3's) and he turns the ball over (4 per game, 2nd most in the league) way too much and has one of the lowest assist/turnover ratio's in the league for pg. I expected more for a #1 pick.
Derrick Rose's Assist/TO ratio last year was only 0.08 higher per game than Wall's. Rose only shot 22% from three his rookie year, and he was a #1 pick too.

You're making it out like Rose was unbelievable his rookie year, and he very well may have been better than Wall, but he didn't really make the leap to great until this past season.
Dec 29, 2011 12:21pm
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Dec 29, 2011 5:31 PM
GOONx19;1030011 wrote:Derrick Rose's Assist/TO ratio last year was only 0.08 higher per game than Wall's. Rose only shot 22% from three his rookie year, and he was a #1 pick too.

You're making it out like Rose was unbelievable his rookie year, and he very well may have been better than Wall, but he didn't really make the leap to great until this past season.
When did I say anything about Rose?
Dec 29, 2011 12:31pm
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Dec 29, 2011 5:38 PM
Skyhook79;1030022 wrote:When did I say anything about Rose?
My bad, I guess I confused CoA's post a few posts back with something you said. Now that I brought it up, though: did you think Rose was disappointing his rookie year, or did you expect Wall to be a better rookie than Rose coming in?
Dec 29, 2011 12:38pm
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Dec 29, 2011 7:23 PM
Commander of Awesome;1029846 wrote:Its common that people don't think he's good? Perhaps he doesn't get the pub that Rose got because he plays in Washington on a horrible team but I haven't heard any negativity towards him other than he misses games.
I used "isn't that good" in place of "overrated." Maybe it's because he had some sky-high expectations, but still. Perception by most is that Wall had a bad rookie season...and if you saw his numbers and watched him play on a trainwreck of a team, it just isn't true. In-fact, he had a very good season given the circumstances...
Dec 29, 2011 2:23pm
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Dec 29, 2011 9:52 PM
Rondo and Kevin Love are the main two for me.

I'm one of the only people it seems that would have taken Durant over Oden on draft day.
Dec 29, 2011 4:52pm
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Dec 29, 2011 9:57 PM
Growing up, Lou Roe was a surprise disappointment for me just because of how solid he was with UMass.

But that was before I understood concepts like not really having a pro position because of being too small to play an NBA power position and not being skilled enough to move down to a 3.
Dec 29, 2011 4:57pm