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Dec 28, 2011 10:35 PM
Marvin shot 51%, 43% from 3, and 85% FT. Played 22 min/game as a FRESHMAN, scored 11 a game and grabbed 7 boards.

What is wildly inconsistent about that?
Dec 28, 2011 10:35pm
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Dec 28, 2011 10:36 PM
Skyhook79;1029644 wrote:Worse: Chris Duhon
JJ Reddick
Shelden Williams
Mike Dunleavy
Dhantay Jones
Trajan Langdon
Shavlik Randolph
John Wall
Jeff Green

Better: Kevin Love
Lamarcus Aldridge
James Harden
Stephen Curry
Russell Westbrook
Al Horford

Pls be honest on the worse....you didn't think for a second most of those Dukies were going to be better than they are/were
Dec 28, 2011 10:36pm
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Laley23;1029643 wrote:Come on man. He was behind 2 MCD AA. 1 a SR (Williams) and 1 a JR (Sean May). Dont go overboard like he was buried in the doghouse lol.

When it mattered, vs Illinois, Marvin was in and hit the go ahead basket to win the title. I dont remember exactly, but once he got accustomed to the college game, it seemed his play took off (right around conference play maybe..UNC fans??)
Yes. He also hit the game winner on senior day in Chapel Hill against Dook.
Dec 28, 2011 10:36pm
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Dec 28, 2011 10:36 PM
Trajan Langdon hasn't been mentioned, he was the worst.
Dec 28, 2011 10:36pm
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Dec 28, 2011 10:38 PM
jordo, please just stop.

You're getting a Clipper sized beat down right now.

Or a Phoenix sized beat down.. Holy shit is that game out of hand.
Dec 28, 2011 10:38pm
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Dec 28, 2011 10:39 PM
What was his expectations? Few Dukies at that time had ever amounted to anything in the NBA....I did think he might be a 8-12 ppg game guy barely starting for a bad team or coming off the bench.

I forget, how high was he drafted? 7th?
Dec 28, 2011 10:39pm
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Dec 28, 2011 10:40 PM
Ironman92;1029651 wrote:Pls be honest on the worse....you didn't think for a second most of those Dukies were going to be better than they are/were
I knew they wouldn't be very good but I didn't think they would be as bad as they have been. Isn't that the question "who is worse than you thought"?
Dec 28, 2011 10:40pm
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Dec 28, 2011 10:40 PM
I thought Scoonie would prove the experts wrong....in fact he just prooved me wrong.
Dec 28, 2011 10:40pm
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Dec 28, 2011 10:40 PM
wildcats20;1029649 wrote:Marvin shot 51%, 43% from 3, and 85% FT. Played 22 min/game as a FRESHMAN, scored 11 a game and grabbed 7 boards.

What is wildly inconsistent about that?

Look at his game logs again
Dec 28, 2011 10:40pm
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Dec 28, 2011 10:41 PM
Ironman92;1029658 wrote:What was his expectations? Few Dukies at that time had ever amounted to anything in the NBA....I did think he might be a 8-12 ppg game guy barely starting for a bad team or coming off the bench.

I forget, how high was he drafted? 7th?
11th.

I thought JJ would be a HUGE bust. But he has exceeded my expectations.
Dec 28, 2011 10:41pm
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Dec 28, 2011 10:44 PM
Ironman92;1029615 wrote:He wasn't as dominate at USC as I expected....he's close to what I guessed
yeah, I was going more on him piggybacking Lebron in HS. There was a lot of hype then...and you are right, he was a very good, not great player in college.
Dec 28, 2011 10:44pm
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Dec 28, 2011 10:45 PM
Skyhook79;1029659 wrote:I knew they wouldn't be very good but I didn't think they would be as bad as they have been. Isn't that the question "who is worse than you thought"?

I just have a hard time believing Redick and Duhon are not as good as you expected. I can't believe Duhon got 1/3 as much playing as he did/does.....and you did not think Redick would be around double digits scoring on a top 4 playoff seed.
Dec 28, 2011 10:45pm
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Dec 28, 2011 10:47 PM
And as a Duke fan....can't believe Sheldon Williams even made the league for more than a year or two
Dec 28, 2011 10:47pm
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Dec 28, 2011 10:48 PM
DeMarcus averaged a double double in his rookie season.

Rajon Rondo's lack of perceived talent can be attributed to the awful Tubby Smith.

Rondo under a coach like Calipari would've been a top 3-5 lottery pick.
Dec 28, 2011 10:48pm
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Dec 28, 2011 10:48 PM
Ironman92;1029660 wrote:I thought Scoonie would prove the experts wrong....in fact he just prooved me wrong.
He had multiple offers to come and try and play in the league, he chose to stay overseas where he would have made more money anyway.
Dec 28, 2011 10:48pm
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Dec 28, 2011 10:51 PM
Brooke Lopez to the surprised list for me
Dec 28, 2011 10:51pm
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Dec 28, 2011 10:51 PM
Azubuike24;1029670 wrote:DeMarcus averaged a double double in his rookie season.

Rajon Rondo's lack of perceived talent can be attributed to the awful Tubby Smith.

Rondo under a coach like Calipari would've been a top 3-5 lottery pick.
Especially in that draft. One of the worst I can remember.
Dec 28, 2011 10:51pm
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Dec 28, 2011 10:52 PM
Ironman92;1029660 wrote:I thought Scoonie would prove the experts wrong....in fact he just prooved me wrong.

Scoonie is still one of my favorite Buckeyes but I didn't really see him as an NBA guy.

Mike Redd was one who surprised me though
Dec 28, 2011 10:52pm
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Dec 28, 2011 10:53 PM
Ironman92;1029673 wrote:Brooke Lopez to the surprised list for me
Those guys got a bad rep at Stanford because of the Collins brothers. Robin was close to them, but Brooke was MUCH better.
Dec 28, 2011 10:53pm
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Dec 28, 2011 10:53 PM
Didn't expect much....but thought Kosta Koufas would've been at least a contributor off the bench.
Dec 28, 2011 10:53pm
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Dec 28, 2011 10:54 PM
Kenyon Martin is one that turned out much better than I thought he would be.
Dec 28, 2011 10:54pm
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Dec 28, 2011 10:57 PM
Ironman92;1029668 wrote:And as a Duke fan....can't believe Sheldon Williams even made the league for more than a year or two
Williams was the #5 pick in the draft. I think they were expecting more than 1 or 2 from him. I expected JJ Reddick to at least average 10-15 ppg (he has avg 7.7) considering he was the all time leading scorer in ACC history coming out of College.
Dec 28, 2011 10:57pm
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Dec 28, 2011 10:59 PM
Since I just saw he got a flagrant 2 tonight....Drew Gooden. And because I know the talent he actually possess, he is just too big of a pussy to showcase it...Jared Jeffries.
Dec 28, 2011 10:59pm
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Dec 28, 2011 11:00 PM
Skyhook79;1029682 wrote:Williams was the #5 pick in the draft. I think they were expecting more than 1 or 2 from him. I expected JJ Reddick to at least average 10-15 ppg (he has avg 7.7) considering he was the all time leading scorer in ACC history coming out of College.
JJ couldn't and still can't get his own shot.
Dec 28, 2011 11:00pm
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Dec 28, 2011 11:04 PM
Skyhook79;1029682 wrote:Williams was the #5 pick in the draft. I think they were expecting more than 1 or 2 from him. I expected JJ Reddick to at least average 10-15 ppg (he has avg 7.7) considering he was the all time leading scorer in ACC history coming out of College.

But YOU didn't think that. You didn't think Redick was going for 15 ppg because he led the ACC scoring record.

Was he over 10 ppg last year? Did you think Chris Corchiani was going to go for 5-7 assists per game?
Dec 28, 2011 11:04pm