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Dec 26, 2011 12:57 PM
Con_Alma;1027345 wrote:It was a leading question.

Location dictates revenue, which dictates the ability to put greater talent vs competitors in the game.

Green bay Wisconsin disagrees with you
Dec 26, 2011 12:57pm
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Con_Alma

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Dec 26, 2011 12:59 PM
SportsAndLady;1027361 wrote:Green bay Wisconsin disagrees with you
Green Bay Doesn't have an MLB team. That's what the $50M payroll comment was referring to. GB can't disagree. They aren't even in the discussion.
Dec 26, 2011 12:59pm
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Dec 26, 2011 1:00 PM
Pick6;1027332 wrote:Just imagine if the Indians were sold to Steinbrenner....
The very sad part about this comment is back in the early 70s Steinbrenner had a deal to buy the Indians and the owner at the time backed out at the last minute.
Dec 26, 2011 1:00pm
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Dec 26, 2011 1:21 PM
Tigerfan00;1027363 wrote:The very sad part about this comment is back in the early 70s Steinbrenner had a deal to buy the Indians and the owner at the time backed out at the last minute.
haha I know, thats why I brought it up.
Dec 26, 2011 1:21pm
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Sonofanump

Dec 26, 2011 1:35 PM
Pick6;1027332 wrote:Just imagine if the Indians were sold to Steinbrenner....
It would have been "Major League" in real life. Bad attendance would have lead to a break in the lease, team re-located to Tampa-St. Pete.
Dec 26, 2011 1:35pm
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Con_Alma

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Dec 26, 2011 1:38 PM
Sonofanump;1027387 wrote:It would have been "Major League" in real life. Bad attendance would have lead to a break in the lease, team re-located to Tampa-St. Pete.
I totally agree.
Dec 26, 2011 1:38pm
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Dec 26, 2011 1:45 PM
Con_Alma;1027362 wrote:Green Bay Doesn't have an MLB team. That's what the $50M payroll comment was referring to. GB can't disagree. They aren't even in the discussion.

Didn't realize that..fuck me right?
Dec 26, 2011 1:45pm
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Con_Alma

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Dec 26, 2011 1:50 PM
SportsAndLady;1027396 wrote:Didn't realize that..**** me right?
Hmmm. **** you? I don't think so.
Dec 26, 2011 1:50pm
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Dec 26, 2011 3:34 PM
SportsAndLady;1027396 wrote:Didn't realize that..**** me right?
Just Curious, what did you think the team name was for the MLB team in Green Bay?
Dec 26, 2011 3:34pm
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Dec 26, 2011 3:48 PM
Con_Alma;1027345 wrote:It was a leading question.

Location dictates revenue, which dictates the ability to put greater talent vs competitors in the game.
But to a degree, it's a chicken-egg thing. If a team is winning, they make more revenue, which in turn they (in theory) invest into higher payroll, whether that be in free agency or by resigning their young players. I'm pretty sure that when Cleveland was competing for the WS a couple years in the mid-90s, their payroll was much higher in comparison to other teams than what it is now (using "in comparison" because the overall landscape has raised a lot over the past couple decades).

Or to phrase things differently...is a market like, say, St. Louis really THAT MUCH larger than a Cleveland or Pittsburgh? Or is it that St. Louis is a baseball town while those two are more football towns. Cards fans will support that team die hard all the time, while the Rams seem to be more in the "popular ticket when good" category. In Pitt or Cleve, the excitement's there when the team's doing well, but during lean years, it evaporates. So, those teams don't have the consistent revenue input that a team that's the epicenter of a city's entertainment would bring in.
Dec 26, 2011 3:48pm
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Con_Alma

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Dec 26, 2011 3:52 PM
No doubt. I agree that it's a chicken - egg thing.

I think St. Louis' tv market is much bigger than Clev or Pitts...isn't it? They draw geographically for miles too.

St. Loius has a lot of true fans whil Clev & Pitts have some fans with others who are attracted to a winning product and show when things are going good.
Dec 26, 2011 3:52pm
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Dec 26, 2011 6:44 PM
Sonofanump;1027460 wrote:Just Curious, what did you think the team name was for the MLB team in Green Bay?
He will probaly will just tell you to die or kill yourself. Thats his usual response when he is wrong about something. But thinking Green Bay had a MLB team is hilarious. Maybe he thought the Brewers were in Green Bay.
Dec 26, 2011 6:44pm
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Dec 26, 2011 6:56 PM
Skyhook79;1027555 wrote:Nothing to see here, just trolling.
k.
Dec 26, 2011 6:56pm
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Dec 26, 2011 7:00 PM
Pick6;1027334 wrote:darren rovell @darrenrovell
Tom Reed of the Plain Dealer (@PDCavsInsider) reporting Cavs season ticket renewal rates at just above 30%. Yikes.

darren rovell @darrenrovell
Cavaliers got to the abysmal 30% season renewal rate because they canceled out of state accounts owned by ticket brokers
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Dec 26, 2011 7:00pm
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Dec 26, 2011 7:33 PM
Skyhook79;1027566 wrote:Nothing to see here, just trolling.
k.
Dec 26, 2011 7:33pm
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Dec 26, 2011 7:40 PM
Sonofanump;1027460 wrote:Just Curious, what did you think the team name was for the MLB team in Green Bay?

When he said the TV market determines how popular the team is I didnt realize the conversation was only about the MLB (I happen to agree with that comment BTW). I wasn't really too into the convo, just saw that comment and the packers popped into my head.

Skyhook, please forgive me for this error
Dec 26, 2011 7:40pm
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Dec 27, 2011 12:37 AM
Gotcha.
Dec 27, 2011 12:37am