like_that
Posts: 26,625
May 30, 2012 8:23pm
Same. I think Barnes is still going to be a pretty damn good NBA player.Commander of Awesome;1185111 wrote:Anyone one want Robinson? I'd be more inclined to look at Barnes I think.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
May 30, 2012 8:24pm
ZOMG hornets all of sudden became a much more exciting team to buy....hmmm....
like_that
Posts: 26,625
May 30, 2012 8:25pm
Can't be that disappointed. We got lucky last year with the first pick. Im excited for the future regardless.
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trep14
Posts: 842
May 30, 2012 8:27pm
I just really wish the Cavs had gotten in the top 3 to be assured one of MKG or Beal.
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AlphaDog81
Posts: 22
May 30, 2012 8:27pm
I think it waswildcats20;1185112 wrote:And you're a moron if you think otherwise.
KR1245
Posts: 4,317
May 30, 2012 8:29pm
Yeah, really wanted MKG.trep14;1185120 wrote:I just really wish the Cavs had gotten in the top 3 to be assured one of MKG or Beal.
Hopefully Drummond goes 2 or 3
KR1245
Posts: 4,317
May 30, 2012 8:30pm
Some rumors that the Hornets may want to trade the 10th pick.....who knows if its true but could be something to watch on draft day
Midstate01
Posts: 14,766
May 30, 2012 8:30pm
RT @JasonLloydABJ: Hornets win the draft lottery. #Cavs would've won it had they lost the coin flip. #tailstypicallyneverfails
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
May 30, 2012 8:35pm
I think after thinking about it, I'd rather pick Jeremy Lamb at #4 over Barnes. Drummond can gfh
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trep14
Posts: 842
May 30, 2012 8:36pm
Any chance Stern is vetoing New Orleans winning the lottery?
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
May 30, 2012 8:42pm
Roger Goodell has apparently stripped the Hornets of the #1 pick and suspended Tom Benson for the NBA season too. NFL maintains that he doesn't have too much authority.
Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
May 30, 2012 8:47pm
I think beal falls to 4. If not Barnes has got to be the pick. He's a pretty good scorer. Reminds me a lot of Paul pierce
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
May 30, 2012 8:50pm
Lamb has been my ideal choice for months. But I'd be happy with him, MKG, Barnes, or Beal.Commander of Awesome;1185127 wrote:I think after thinking about it, I'd rather pick Jeremy Lamb at #4 over Barnes. Drummond can gfh
KR1245
Posts: 4,317
May 30, 2012 8:53pm
I think I'm leaning this way as well. It will be interesting to see what happens during workouts in the next month, plenty of time for stocks to rise or fall.Commander of Awesome;1185127 wrote:I think after thinking about it, I'd rather pick Jeremy Lamb at #4 over Barnes. Drummond can gfh
I'd be ok with Lamb and Harkless or Miller with their 1st round picks
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
May 30, 2012 8:56pm
I love a good conspiracy, but I'm not sure how this draft could have turned out any worse for Stern. The dude and the league already have a perception of underhanded tactics, and then this happens
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
May 30, 2012 9:20pm
I actually do as well. I think Barnes will be a much better pro player than he was a college one.like_that;1185114 wrote:Same. I think Barnes is still going to be a pretty damn good NBA player.
chicago510
Posts: 5,728
May 30, 2012 9:20pm
Cavs have 4 draft picks? Wow. Wonder if they move around at all.
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
May 30, 2012 9:20pm
This is pretty much how I feel...Mulva;1185140 wrote:Lamb has been my ideal choice for months. But I'd be happy with him, MKG, Barnes, or Beal.
And lol, we win the coin flip against NO and they get the #1 pick.. Go figure.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
May 30, 2012 9:23pm
Barnes couldn't handle or create his own shot at a high level, what makes you think he will at the Pro level? He also disappeared in multiple games.
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trep14
Posts: 842
May 30, 2012 9:24pm
Agree about Drummond. Guys who don't produce in college and have always struggled with motivation scare me. I don't care how impressive their physical attributes are. I think Barnes could flourish next to Kyrie. Barnes strikes me as a guy who needs someone next to him who can set him up for shots. He played really well when he was playing next to Kendall Marshall and then wasn't nearly as good when Marshall went down and had to create for himself.Commander of Awesome;1185127 wrote:I think after thinking about it, I'd rather pick Jeremy Lamb at #4 over Barnes. Drummond can gfh
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
May 30, 2012 9:26pm
Barnes could handle just fine, his problem was creating. I think the bigger floor spacing and playing next to a guy like Kyrie (whom is great friends with Barnes) would benefit him greatly. The kid can stroke it and does have decent enough athleticism to attack the basket. He's got good size too.robj55;1185170 wrote:Barnes couldn't handle or create his own shot at a high level, what makes you think he will at the Pro level? He also disappeared in multiple games.
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trep14
Posts: 842
May 30, 2012 9:27pm
I could really see Jordan taking Drummond though and the Cavs ending up with Beal.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
May 30, 2012 9:28pm
The handle leads to the creation, he doesn't have that. He also is an inconsistent jump shooter from what I have seen and disappears for stretches of games.hoops23;1185172 wrote:Barnes could handle just fine, his problem was creating. I think the bigger floor spacing and playing next to a guy like Kyrie (whom is great friends with Barnes) would benefit him greatly. The kid can stroke it and does have decent enough athleticism to attack the basket. He's got good size too.
KR1245
Posts: 4,317
May 30, 2012 9:29pm
Way early for this talk but here it is
Sam Amico ‏@SamAmicoFSO
Chris Grant says Cavs will explore option of moving up in draft, but it's extremely difficult. "Look at history. Doesn't happen often."
Sam Amico ‏@SamAmicoFSO
Chris Grant says Cavs will explore option of moving up in draft, but it's extremely difficult. "Look at history. Doesn't happen often."
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
May 30, 2012 9:32pm
I didn't take it as you were talking about crossover handles, I thought you meant the basic ability to handle the ball, including under pressure by keeping the dribble alive, etc...robj55;1185174 wrote:The handle leads to the creation, he doesn't have that. He also is an inconsistent jump shooter from what I have seen and disappears for stretches of games.
His jumpshot is pure. He has good form and with NBA repetition it'll only improve. He struggled his soph year shooting 36% from 3... That's a pretty good year for most players.
His size, at 6'8'' 215 is ideal. He's a very good defender and I think he can improve the ability to create his own shot. All you need is a few go to moves.
Pierce was a guy who had the same criticisms, but he's done jsut fine.