Archive Cleveland Cavaliers 11-12 season thread

Mulva

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Jul 19, 2012 6:43pm

derek bomar;1229175 wrote:aren't they kinda desperate now? I mean, Dwight isn't resigning with them, so they need to trade em. People know they need to trade, thus aren't giving them FMV for someone of his caliber... it's like a firesale. Everything Howard must go, and they're trying to get what they can.

I don't think so. The season isn't even close to starting yet. They have time to wait for an offer they like more.

SportsAndLady

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Jul 19, 2012 8:37pm

Mulva;1229375 wrote:I don't think so. The season isn't even close to starting yet. They have time to wait for an offer they like more.

Problem is Howard isnt going to just sign a long term deal with any team.

Crimson streak

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Jul 19, 2012 8:41pm

According to woj the cavs and lakers are waiting for the magic to agree on the framework of the deal so the lakers can start talking to Howard and the cavs with Bynum about extensions. It seems like grant could be willing to take Bynum even with out a extension. It should get interesting very fast if the magic agree on the framework

Commander of Awesome

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Jul 19, 2012 8:44pm

I'm already very interested.

Pick6

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Jul 19, 2012 9:00pm

Crimson streak;1229445 wrote:According to woj the cavs and lakers are waiting for the magic to agree on the framework of the deal so the lakers can start talking to Howard and the cavs with Bynum about extensions. It seems like grant could be willing to take Bynum even with out a extension. It should get interesting very fast if the magic agree on the framework

I do not think Bynum signs an extension no matter what. Think I read he would be missing out on a lot of money if he didnt just sign a max deal next season. No way that the Cavs take him without him promising to resign or whatever.

swoosh

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Jul 19, 2012 9:03pm

If talks are resuming, it means Bynum agrees to re-sign with us. The only way this deal goes through is if he agrees to us ahead of time that he would re-up with us in 2013.

Crimson streak

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Jul 19, 2012 9:07pm

Commander of Awesome;1229449 wrote:I'm already very interested.

Me too ive been on Rcf all day. Amico would get my hopes up the Lloyd would crush em and then when you think it's not going to happen woj comes out of no where and posts that lol

hoops23

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Jul 19, 2012 9:09pm

If he's traded to us, we would own his bird rights. He would be the 2nd best player on the team with a young nucleus. No way he's turning down that opportunity and all that money to go sign somewhere else... Not very many teams have much cap space as it is... In fact, the Cavs are the only team in the East with ANY cap space this season. I'd have to check the west.

hoops23

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Jul 19, 2012 9:10pm

Crimson streak;1229477 wrote:Me too ive been on Rcf all day. Amico would get my hopes up the Lloyd would crush em and then when you think it's not going to happen woj comes out of no where and posts that lol

Some of us on RCF think Lloyd is the Cavs right hand man in terms of quieting talk down. Amico flies with everything, but usually says if he thinks it's true or not.

wes_mantooth

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Jul 19, 2012 9:14pm

hoops23;1229483 wrote:Some of us on RCF think Lloyd is the Cavs right hand man in terms of quieting talk down. Amico flies with everything, but usually says if he thinks it's true or not.

What Amico does...is what Broussard famous back in the decision days. Throw a bunch of shit against the wall and hope something sticks. But if you are the first to report it....you are famous.

hoops23

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Jul 19, 2012 9:21pm

wes_mantooth;1229486 wrote:What Amico does...is what Broussard famous back in the decision days. Throw a bunch of shit against the wall and hope something sticks. But if you are the first to report it....you are famous.

Yep.

Amico was acting a bit weird a couple weeks ago. He kept referencing "agents" and "sources" and everybody knew he was throwing shit against the wall. He was basically complaining about the Cavs, but using "other people" to express his feelings.

Mulva

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Jul 19, 2012 9:47pm

SportsAndLady;1229442 wrote:Problem is Howard isnt going to just sign a long term deal with any team.

Really not an issue. That's why they've gotten/will continue to get a 3rd team involved. Get him to LA and get your package of prospects/picks elsewhere. Cavs aren't the only option for that, and Lloyd reported today that they're currently unwilling to give up any young players.

A lot more pressure on the Cavs to bend on that than Orlando imo. Depends how badly they want Bynum.

KR1245

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Jul 19, 2012 9:55pm

wes_mantooth;1229486 wrote:What Amico does...is what Broussard famous back in the decision days. Throw a bunch of **** against the wall and hope something sticks. But if you are the first to report it....you are famous.

Amico is a jackass. He posted a tweet today from a fake Chris Broussard twitter account.

hoops23

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Jul 19, 2012 10:05pm

KR1245;1229521 wrote:Amico is a jackass. He posted a tweet today from a fake Chris Broussard twitter account.

I was for some reason listening to the big show and Riz and Hammer were acting all excited about breaking the news about Bynum... They went to commercial break and came back on and Riz sounded let down... Then he said they were fooled by a fake twitter account lol.

wildcats20

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Jul 19, 2012 10:07pm

I just want this ish to go down so I can say my prediction was correct! lol

wes_mantooth

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Jul 19, 2012 10:09pm

wildcats20;1229528 wrote:I just want this ish to go down so I can say my prediction was correct! lol

Not sure why laker fans want this trade....marginal upgrade at best. Howard is the most overhyped player in the league.

wildcats20

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Jul 19, 2012 10:13pm

wes_mantooth;1229529 wrote:Not sure why laker fans want this trade....marginal upgrade at best. Howard is the most overhyped player in the league.

Because Bynum is a joke. He will never get his head on straight. At least Howard will bust his ass with Kobe and Pau leading him.

wildcats20

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Jul 19, 2012 10:14pm

And he brings a defensive force that hasn't been in LA in years.

wes_mantooth

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Jul 19, 2012 10:16pm

wildcats20;1229533 wrote:Because Bynum is a joke. He will never get his head on straight. At least Howard will bust his ass with Kobe and Pau leading him.

I agree that bynum is a joke, still think this doesn't do much for la

Mulva

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Jul 19, 2012 10:53pm

wildcats20;1229533 wrote:Because Bynum is a joke. He will never get his head on straight. At least Howard will bust his ass with Kobe and Pau leading him.

lol @ Pau leading Howard.

Commander of Awesome

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Jul 20, 2012 8:40am

[h=3]Cavaliers Seek Extension From Andrew Bynum Before Agreeing To Trade[/h] Jul 19, 2012 7:42 PM EDT

The Cavaliers are eager to acquire Andrew Bynum in a three-way trade with the Lakers and Magic involving Dwight Howard, but they are not prepared to move forward without an assurance from Bynum.
"Cleveland will only do the deal if Bynum extends," a league official directly involved in the talks told Yahoo! Sports.
The Lakers want the framework of a trade to be agreed upon before the Cavaliers begin engaging Bynum on an extension.

Via Adrian Wojnarowski/Yahoo! Sports
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Mulva

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Jul 20, 2012 8:09pm

Cavs signing Jon Leuer. I'm a fan.

swoosh

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Jul 20, 2012 11:29pm

So we sign Leuer off of waivers, but not Scola?????

Crimson streak

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Jul 20, 2012 11:42pm

swoosh;1230338 wrote:So we sign Leuer off of waivers, but not Scola?????

We put a bid on scola but phoenix offered more money do they won

swoosh

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Jul 20, 2012 11:43pm

Crimson streak;1230347 wrote:We put a bid on scola but phoenix offered more money do they won

I know. We should have offered more.