Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
Jul 14, 2012 8:09pm
hoops23;1225718 wrote:Waiters and Zeller can't be traded since they signed their rookie deals until next January, so they're not going anywhere..
And I love TT more than anybody on this board probably, but you're crazy if you wouldn't part with him for a legit center, who is arguably the best in the game.
I love tt also but if he's included in a deal for Bynum I'm totally ok with it. Tt won't make us a championship contender but Bynum could.
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
Jul 14, 2012 8:11pm
No it's not. Our picks won't be much if we get Bynum anyway... We should no longer be a lottery team.Midstate01;1225722 wrote:I wouldn't trade Andy, TT, and picks. No way That's way too much.
The Cavs have had interest in Luis Scola who was amnestied, and he's better than Andy. If we get Bynum and have to ship Andy and TT, we could sign Scola.
This is a franchise changing type deal. It's a deal the Cavs only make if Bynum signs an extension though, and from all accounts, he would.
I did see some rumors that had the Cavs keeping TT, but taking on a bad contract like Hedo or Richardson. I'd be fine with that as well. With Bynum, T2 could roam around the paint defensively. We'd instantly have the best interior defense in the NBA.
Either way, if you have a chance to get Bynum, you do it, especially as a small/mid market team.
Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
Jul 14, 2012 8:16pm
hoops23;1225730 wrote:No it's not. Our picks won't be much if we get Bynum anyway... We should no longer be a lottery team.
The Cavs have had interest in Luis Scola who was amnestied, and he's better than Andy. If we get Bynum and have to ship Andy and TT, we could sign Scola.
This is a franchise changing type deal. It's a deal the Cavs only make if Bynum signs an extension though, and from all accounts, he would.
I did see some rumors that had the Cavs keeping TT, but taking on a bad contract like Hedo or Richardson. I'd be fine with that as well. With Bynum, T2 could roam around the paint defensively. We'd instantly have the best interior defense in the NBA.
Either way, if you have a chance to get Bynum, you do it, especially as a small/mid market team.
Agreed 100% I would love to keep tt but if he is the main piece that brings Bynum here I'm ok with it
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Jul 14, 2012 8:50pm
There's no chance Orlando would want Varejao. That's the exact opposite of what they're trying to do. It adds an aging, questionable at best contract.
The only player on either the Cavs or Lakers I could possibly see the Magic interested in would be Thompson. Who else would they want? Gee? Goudelock? I'd love for it to happen, but there just aren't enough good pieces there for me to think it's all that realistic.
The only player on either the Cavs or Lakers I could possibly see the Magic interested in would be Thompson. Who else would they want? Gee? Goudelock? I'd love for it to happen, but there just aren't enough good pieces there for me to think it's all that realistic.
Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
Jul 14, 2012 9:06pm
Mulva;1225748 wrote:There's no chance Orlando would want Varejao. That's the exact opposite of what they're trying to do. It adds an aging, questionable at best contract.
The only player on either the Cavs or Lakers I could possibly see the Magic interested in would be Thompson. Who else would they want? Gee? Goudelock? I'd love for it to happen, but there just aren't enough good pieces there for me to think it's all that realistic.
Orlando wants picks and cap relief. Andy would be someone they can send out at the deadline for more picks. I think this has been the best deal that could realistically could happen.
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
Jul 14, 2012 9:13pm
The Cavs have several picks and the cap space to give Orlando relief.
Dr. KnOiTaLL
Posts: 2,682
Jul 14, 2012 9:58pm
Great post! I agree as well. While I would prefer to keep TT, there is a much greater need for a player of Bynum's caliber in the post that can take more pressure off of Irving.hoops23;1225730 wrote:No it's not. Our picks won't be much if we get Bynum anyway... We should no longer be a lottery team.
The Cavs have had interest in Luis Scola who was amnestied, and he's better than Andy. If we get Bynum and have to ship Andy and TT, we could sign Scola.
This is a franchise changing type deal. It's a deal the Cavs only make if Bynum signs an extension though, and from all accounts, he would.
I did see some rumors that had the Cavs keeping TT, but taking on a bad contract like Hedo or Richardson. I'd be fine with that as well. With Bynum, T2 could roam around the paint defensively. We'd instantly have the best interior defense in the NBA.
Either way, if you have a chance to get Bynum, you do it, especially as a small/mid market team.
Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
Jul 14, 2012 10:01pm
I love grant. Apparently he is asking for picks also with Bynum. He has balls of steel.
Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
Jul 14, 2012 10:05pm
Kyrie is out of the summer league... Broke his hand in practice mother fuck
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sportswizuhrd
Posts: 3,215
Jul 14, 2012 10:33pm
Registered members only when it gets too much traffic? Was on earlier, can't get on now(not a member).Midstate01;1225686 wrote:Glad I was able to get my account on rcf up and running yesterday!
KR1245
Posts: 4,317
Jul 14, 2012 11:04pm
Sucks about Kyrie but a broken hand in the middle of July isn't a huge deal. He's supposed to be back in 6-8 weeks.
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
Jul 14, 2012 11:11pm
Did he fracture it on a fall?KR1245;1225790 wrote:Sucks about Kyrie but a broken hand in the middle of July isn't a huge deal. He's supposed to be back in 6-8 weeks.
Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
Jul 14, 2012 11:30pm
hoops23;1225792 wrote:Did he fracture it on a fall?
He hit the mat behind the hoop and just hit it wrong. Said he had no pain really just had an x ray and it revealed a small fracture nothing serious
KR1245
Posts: 4,317
Jul 14, 2012 11:31pm
Nope. Got pissed after a turnover and slapped his hand against a mat that didn't have much paddinghoops23;1225792 wrote:Did he fracture it on a fall?
Crimson streak
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Jul 14, 2012 11:34pm
Rcf crashed lol I guess the trade talks were starting to heat up last I read and then it crashed
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
Jul 15, 2012 1:11am
Jason Lloyd just tweeted that there is no merit to these talks, as his "source" claims.Crimson streak;1225808 wrote:Rcf crashed lol I guess the trade talks were starting to heat up last I read and then it crashed
However, earlier, Sam Amico said his sources said the talks were legit.. So we'll see who's right.
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
Jul 15, 2012 1:12am
Yeah, I saw him post on twitter that it was a freak accident. He seems pissed about it...KR1245;1225806 wrote:Nope. Got pissed after a turnover and slapped his hand against a mat that didn't have much padding
Good thing is, he'll be ready by training camp.
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Jul 15, 2012 8:32am
Bonehead move by Irving. Glad it's not serious though
Rotinaj
Posts: 7,699
Jul 15, 2012 9:42am
I wouldnt say slapping a mat is a bonehead move. Happens all the time, just got unlucky.jordo212000;1225887 wrote:Bonehead move by Irving. Glad it's not serious though
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jul 15, 2012 10:38am
Yeah, Kyrie is the only athlete to ever slap a soft surface /sarcasm.jordo212000;1225887 wrote:Bonehead move by Irving. Glad it's not serious though
What a joke.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jul 15, 2012 1:13pm
Typical passive aggressive trolling by one of OC's biggest trolls. Not surprised.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jul 15, 2012 1:35pm
I am not sure whether he is just dumb as hell or ignorant as hell to believe that nobody see's through his idiotic bullshit. It's hilarious how 95% of this thread doesn't give a shit what he has to say, yet he keeps spewing his typical act in these Cleveland threads.Commander of Awesome;1225968 wrote:Typical passive aggressive trolling by one of OC's biggest trolls. Not surprised.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jul 15, 2012 10:50pm
http://www.nba.com/summer-league/games/20120715/CLECHA/gameinfo.html#nbaGIboxscore
Zeller 14 pts
Waiters 10 pts
Zeller 14 pts
Waiters 10 pts
OneBuckeye
Posts: 5,888
Jul 16, 2012 7:49am
This box score made me lol. BJ Mullens with 7 three point attempts (0-7) en route to a 4-17 shooting night with 9 points. lol wtf.SportsAndLady;1226268 wrote:http://www.nba.com/summer-league/games/20120715/CLECHA/gameinfo.html#nbaGIboxscore
Zeller 14 pts
Waiters 10 pts
derek bomar
Posts: 3,722
Jul 16, 2012 9:02am
Triple Threat...