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Dec 15, 2011 4:20 PM
jmog;1016260 wrote:Facts are garbage?

Interesting observation.

I love the young brazen "I know everything and you are stupid" people.
I love the arrogant "I'm older so I know everything and you're just a dumb kid" attitude as well. It's beautiful.

Facts aren't garbage. Your facts are garbage.
Dec 15, 2011 4:20pm
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Dec 15, 2011 4:26 PM
sleeper;1016266 wrote:I love the arrogant "I'm older so I know everything and you're just a dumb kid" attitude as well. It's beautiful.

Facts aren't garbage. Your facts are garbage.
Please feel free to point out which facts I stated are garbage, I would love the debate.

I'm not smarter because I'm older, there are other good examples of such belief.
Dec 15, 2011 4:26pm
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Dec 15, 2011 4:38 PM
I believe one can look at evolution without the hypothesis of abiogensis, just as one can look at the gravity without knowing scientifically how gravity began.

And as long as this has turned into an atheist/theist discussion, I am curious to know if most theists (particularly "conservative" Christians) believe the Bible is infallible, or fallible, and why? I'm actually curious to discuss, not to bash or be derogatory/instigatory.
Dec 15, 2011 4:38pm
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Dec 15, 2011 4:39 PM
jmog;1016273 wrote:
I'm not smarter
I stopped reading after this.
Dec 15, 2011 4:39pm
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Dec 15, 2011 4:45 PM
gorocks99;1016284 wrote:I believe one can look at evolution without the hypothesis of abiogensis, just as one can look at the gravity without knowing scientifically how gravity began.
exactly. the hypothetical graviton (fundamental particle responsible for gravitational fields) has never been observed. yet no one runs around screaming about how gravitational theory is just a theory. well, at least not among the public.
Dec 15, 2011 4:45pm
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Dec 15, 2011 5:06 PM
Tiernan;1015764 wrote:Your kids must be the most tormented kids in school.
sleeper;1015782 wrote:I don't have kids. Enjoy!
Virgins can't have kids.
Dec 15, 2011 5:06pm
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Dec 15, 2011 5:09 PM
GoPens;1016313 wrote:Virgins can't have kids.
Oh the irony in context of this conversation.
Dec 15, 2011 5:09pm
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Dec 15, 2011 5:11 PM
gorocks99;1016315 wrote:Oh the irony in context of this conversation.
Reps
Dec 15, 2011 5:11pm
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Dec 15, 2011 5:35 PM
gorocks99;1016315 wrote:Oh the irony in context of this conversation.
:thumbup:
Dec 15, 2011 5:35pm
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Dec 15, 2011 6:10 PM
gorocks99;1016315 wrote:Oh the irony in context of this conversation.
+1 reps
Dec 15, 2011 6:10pm
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Dec 15, 2011 6:19 PM
4cards;1016038 wrote:...no she's a quadruple E
I like her religion.
Dec 15, 2011 6:19pm
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Dec 15, 2011 6:20 PM
gorocks99;1016284 wrote:I believe one can look at evolution without the hypothesis of abiogensis, just as one can look at the gravity without knowing scientifically how gravity began.

And as long as this has turned into an atheist/theist discussion, I am curious to know if most theists (particularly "conservative" Christians) believe the Bible is infallible, or fallible, and why? I'm actually curious to discuss, not to bash or be derogatory/instigatory.

I believe it to be Fallible. Many younger contemoprary churches take this stance too.

The show "Science behind the bible" or whatever is basically what these churches believe. The "magic" involved is a lot of realistic stuff that needs all perfect conditions to happen (like the parting of the red sea)
Dec 15, 2011 6:20pm
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Dec 15, 2011 6:27 PM
This whole thread is a joke. when you really think about it, not one kid gives a shit about religion on Christmas day,all they want are gifts and that has nothing to do with religion unless god is paying to buy my kids Christmas gifts. The last time I checked, the bills are still being paid for out of my bank account.
Dec 15, 2011 6:27pm
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Dec 15, 2011 6:30 PM
So, fallible in terms of fantastical events, but not (necessarily?) in teachings? I'm asking because I have a hard time reconciling the rape/slave/"women's place" parts of the bible that many Christians choose not to follow with the parts they do.

Seems to me if people believe the teachings are infallible, then they should all be followed, but if they believe certain parts are fallible, how is it to people to know which? I keep coming back to "political and social convenience" as the reason why, which doesn't jive with my concept of an omnipotent, omnipresent deity.
Dec 15, 2011 6:30pm
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Dec 15, 2011 6:30 PM
so....are you ready for Christmas?
Dec 15, 2011 6:30pm
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Dec 15, 2011 6:33 PM
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Dec 15, 2011 6:33pm
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Dec 15, 2011 6:36 PM
I'm ready for Christmas.........










to be over with.
Dec 15, 2011 6:36pm
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Dec 15, 2011 6:41 PM
Santa baby,
A '65 convertible will do,
Steel blue,
I'll wait up for you, too.
Santa Baby,
so hurry down the chimney tonite!


Think of all the things I missed,
Think of all the as*holes that I never dissed,
This year I can be just as good,
If you check off my Christmas list.
Dec 15, 2011 6:41pm
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Dec 15, 2011 8:38 PM
jmog;1016224 wrote:Polls exist for this stuff, politicians pay attention to polls, and people vote in politicians. If you want more liberal decency standards then convince more people to vote liberals into office.

Its not that hard to figure out.
Show me the poll that says that more people in this country think that violence is more acceptable for children to see than the human body.
Dec 15, 2011 8:38pm
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Dec 16, 2011 12:19 AM
Pick6;1016381 wrote:I'm ready for Christmas.........




to be over with.
Dec 16, 2011 12:19am
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Dec 16, 2011 2:30 AM
RIP Christopher Hitchens.
Dec 16, 2011 2:30am
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Dec 16, 2011 7:12 AM
Lol. Nothing like starting a post and coming back the next day and thinking, dang, 6 pages, that was a good one. Only to open it and find that the responses have absolutely nothing to do with the subject. :D
Dec 16, 2011 7:12am
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Dec 16, 2011 7:46 AM
tcarrier32;1016288 wrote:exactly. the hypothetical graviton (fundamental particle responsible for gravitational fields) has never been observed. yet no one runs around screaming about how gravitational theory is just a theory. well, at least not among the public.
The difference is so obvious it isn't funny. We can currently observe the effects of gravity, we just don't fully understand it.

One can not observe evolution, which is why it is still more debated than gravitational theory. Also, not all gravitational theory is theory, there are parts of it that are "laws", or facts in science terms.
Dec 16, 2011 7:46am
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Dec 16, 2011 7:47 AM
sleeper;1016285 wrote:I stopped reading after this.
Yeah, reading whole sentences appears to be hard for you. I understand, its hard for my 5 year old too.
Dec 16, 2011 7:47am
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Dec 16, 2011 7:48 AM
password;1016371 wrote:This whole thread is a joke. when you really think about it, not one kid gives a **** about religion on Christmas day,all they want are gifts and that has nothing to do with religion unless god is paying to buy my kids Christmas gifts. The last time I checked, the bills are still being paid for out of my bank account.
You are 100% false to say that not ONE kid cares about Christ on Christmas.
Dec 16, 2011 7:48am