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Apr 22, 2012 7:16 PM
bigdaddy2003;1150010 wrote:I still want to see a Bones/Spider fight but I doubt it will ever happen.
Me either but what a super fight that would be. Also, I was disappointed that Rashad didn't engage more last night, to win the title you have to bring it to the champ and try and take it to him. Seemed like after he got that elbow that wobbled him in the 2nd round last night he just coasted and tried to survive 5 rounds.
Apr 22, 2012 3:16pm
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Apr 22, 2012 7:18 PM
robj55;1150024 wrote:Me either but what a super fight that would be. Also, I was disappointed that Rashad didn't engage more last night, to win the title you have to bring it to the champ and try and take it to him. Seemed like after he got that elbow that wobbled him in the 2nd round last night he just coasted and tried to survive 5 rounds.
Evans showed ZERO heart. After falling behind and getting stunned w/ those 'bows it appeared he just accepted defeat.
Apr 22, 2012 3:18pm
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Apr 22, 2012 7:30 PM
Automatik;1150027 wrote:Evans showed ZERO heart. After falling behind and getting stunned w/ those 'bows it appeared he just accepted defeat.
Yeah I felt the same, all this talk about how he was gonna unleash his inner dog and what not. He gets down on the score cards and coasts to the finish line.
Apr 22, 2012 3:30pm
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Apr 22, 2012 7:35 PM
I've been reading a lot of people bitching about Jones on other forums. wtf was he supposed to do? :laugh: Fight wild and get caught? Hell, he was trying superman punches in the 4th round. Like everyone else who watched, he knew he had it won early. Just keep connecting, hope for a KO or wait til the decision.

I was hoping for a better main event, but overall I thought it was a decent card.

I'm jumping on the Rory Macdonald bandwagon. He straight up punished Mills. He's gonna make noise in that division.
Apr 22, 2012 3:35pm
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Apr 22, 2012 7:48 PM
I enjoyed the card a lot and even enjoyed the main event, I just thought it could have been a little better had Rashad not folded up after the 2nd round. Rory has been a beast ever since he entered the UFC at 20 years old, he could be a future champ. He really needs a step up in competition though. Che Mills is a dangerous stand up fighter but not well rounded enough for someone like Rory. Scary how good he is at only 22 years old. Speaking of young studs, how about Michael Mcdonald knocking out one of the best bw's ever and a great fighter in Miguel Torres at only 21 years old.
Apr 22, 2012 3:48pm
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Apr 22, 2012 8:07 PM
Evans did seem to go into "don't get finished" mode after the second round which is disappointing as he wasn't doing all too badly up until then.
Apr 22, 2012 4:07pm
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Apr 22, 2012 10:36 PM
To bad rory says he won't fight gsp
Apr 22, 2012 6:36pm
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Apr 22, 2012 10:44 PM
sportchampps;1150170 wrote:To bad rory says he won't fiht gsp
I hate that.

Hopefully they start hating each other ala Jones/Evans.
Apr 22, 2012 6:44pm
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Apr 23, 2012 12:29 PM
bigdaddy2003;1149889 wrote:So Mir stepping in for Overeem takes a little out of the fight for me but who do you guys think will win?
I am a fan of both guys. If Mir can get it to the ground with time left in a round he will submit JDS. If he can't get it to the ground JDS will KO him.

JDS showed great TD defense in the past even against wrestlers so I don't give Mir much of a chance.
Apr 23, 2012 8:29am
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Apr 23, 2012 12:37 PM
jmog;1149829 wrote:Everything out of Jones' mouth does not show cockiness. Evans on the other hand...
Pretty sure if Jones wasn't a devout christian you'd agree.

I don't like his personality and nothing anyone says will make me change my mind - you seem to have the same stance on god so you'll understand.
Apr 23, 2012 8:37am
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Apr 23, 2012 12:38 PM
sportchampps;1150170 wrote:To bad rory says he won't fight gsp
I doubt in two years GSP is still a welterweight - I got the impression GSP would move to middleweight by the time Rory is ready to challenge for the belt.
Apr 23, 2012 8:38am
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Apr 23, 2012 12:43 PM
hoops23;1149811 wrote:I kind of thought that too. Jones wanted to knock him out, not choke/submit him.
If you're a fighter would you rather get a KO or Sub win? Personally i'd rather get the sub since you're getting the guy to say "i quit." I'd rather be able to say to a guy, "I made you tap" than "I knocked you out."
Apr 23, 2012 8:43am
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Apr 23, 2012 1:02 PM
Raw Dawgin' it;1150473 wrote:Pretty sure if Jones wasn't a devout christian you'd agree.

I don't like his personality and nothing anyone says will make me change my mind - you seem to have the same stance on god so you'll understand.
Why the attitude?

Actually, I'm one of the first to dislike those that don't seem "genuine" (read hypocritical) about faith. If I thought Jones was I would very much dislike his personality. Right now I like him as a fighter, there is no doubt he is one of, if not the best, in the world. I think right now Anderson and Aldo are the only 2 others that can make a claim to that (and I am a huge GSP fan, but right now he isn't on those 3's levels).

I just said that so far, I have yet to see the "cockiness".

But hey, if copping an attitude about my opinion makes you feel better, then by all means.
Apr 23, 2012 9:02am
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Apr 23, 2012 1:02 PM
Raw Dawgin' it;1150474 wrote:I doubt in two years GSP is still a welterweight - I got the impression GSP would move to middleweight by the time Rory is ready to challenge for the belt.
I agree with this. I wouldn't be surprised if GSP has only 1 or 2 more fights at WW, to "get the belt back" from Condit and beat up Nate Diaz, then he moves to MW.
Apr 23, 2012 9:02am
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Apr 23, 2012 1:08 PM
jmog;1150485 wrote:Why the attitude?

Actually, I'm one of the first to dislike those that don't seem "genuine" (read hypocritical) about faith. If I thought Jones was I would very much dislike his personality. Right now I like him as a fighter, there is no doubt he is one of, if not the best, in the world. I think right now Anderson and Aldo are the only 2 others that can make a claim to that (and I am a huge GSP fan, but right now he isn't on those 3's levels).

I just said that so far, I have yet to see the "cockiness".

But hey, if copping an attitude about my opinion makes you feel better, then by all means.
Honestly thought you liked him because of that - I didn't try and find previous posts you made about him. Just saw one to IWP that said you may be biased.

I enjoy Jones fights because he brings it and can finish top tier guys, just don't like his pre-fight talk, rubs me the wrong way. Love Aldo for the same reason and lately been falling off the Silva bandwagon, i think he's losing a step.

Jones isn't the guy i'd like to see as champion so it's easy for me to want him to lose. Love his fights, just don't like listening to him outside the cage.
Apr 23, 2012 9:08am
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Apr 23, 2012 1:09 PM
jmog;1150486 wrote:I agree with this. I wouldn't be surprised if GSP has only 1 or 2 more fights at WW, to "get the belt back" from Condit and beat up Nate Diaz, then he moves to MW.
I think 3 - Ellenberger v Kampmann winner too.
Apr 23, 2012 9:09am
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Apr 23, 2012 1:27 PM
What's funny is, that even though I truly believe Anderson Silva is a better fighter than GSP. If they ever fought I believe GSP would beat him.

GSP is just too good a wrestler and has better sub defense than Sonnen. Silva couldn't stop GSP's TDs if he did nothing but TD defense for the next 2 years. Even though I'd be excited for that fight, it might not be all that exciting of a fight.
Apr 23, 2012 9:27am
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Apr 23, 2012 1:50 PM
jmog;1150497 wrote:What's funny is, that even though I truly believe Anderson Silva is a better fighter than GSP. If they ever fought I believe GSP would beat him.

GSP is just too good a wrestler and has better sub defense than Sonnen. Silva couldn't stop GSP's TDs if he did nothing but TD defense for the next 2 years. Even though I'd be excited for that fight, it might not be all that exciting of a fight.
GSP likes to use his jab to set up the TD, i believe Silvas reach and his jab could keep GSP at enough for him to utilize his striking. While i think GSP could get him down, Anderson is a huge middleweight so it might be harder than you think. But i totally agree GSP would do all in his power to get the TD and grind out a win.
Apr 23, 2012 9:50am
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Apr 23, 2012 3:59 PM
I think Silva would win. I don't think he would walk over GSP but I believe he would beat him.
Apr 23, 2012 11:59am
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Apr 23, 2012 4:34 PM
jmog;1150486 wrote:I agree with this. I wouldn't be surprised if GSP has only 1 or 2 more fights at WW, to "get the belt back" from Condit and beat up Nate Diaz, then he moves to MW.
I could just as easy see Rory moving up though. He is taller than GSP and very young so he frame is probably still filling out. He has also mentioned moving up a few times.
Apr 23, 2012 12:34pm
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Apr 23, 2012 4:36 PM
Bigfoot Silva is facing Cain at 146 now.
Apr 23, 2012 12:36pm
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Apr 23, 2012 4:45 PM
Zoltan;1150695 wrote:I could just as easy see Rory moving up though. He is taller than GSP and very young so he frame is probably still filling out. He has also mentioned moving up a few times.
If i had to bet, at this point in their careers, GSP has to cut a LOT more weight than Rory. GSP is built, Rory is kind of skinny.

Yes, if Rory hit the weights since he is taller he could easily move to MW. I was just saying that in the near future I would think GSP would move up before Rory.
Apr 23, 2012 12:45pm
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Apr 23, 2012 5:02 PM
No one in the world can beat GSP if he has a couple months to prepare. Give him some film and he will beat you.
Apr 23, 2012 1:02pm
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Apr 23, 2012 7:36 PM
ksig489;1150718 wrote:No one in the world can beat GSP if he has a couple months to prepare. Give him some film and he will beat you.
Come on...I am a big GSP fan but I sure hope you are talking only his weight class right?
Apr 23, 2012 3:36pm
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Apr 24, 2012 4:13 PM
So what does everyone think about Bigfoot Silva and Cain? I wonder if Big Country is still fighting on the card.
Apr 24, 2012 12:13pm