How many weeks ago did I say, the coaching selection was a done deal?

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THE4RINGZ;1065654 wrote:How many weeks ago did I say, the coaching selection was a done deal?

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It appears to have been a done deal before the search outside of Wooster began. Seeing that the DR article states that his references stood out above all the others, let the truth be told that references for the other candidates were never contacted... was it a fair process?

Fencer18;1065657 wrote:It appears to have been a done deal before the search outside of Wooster began. Seeing that the DR article states that his references stood out above all the others, let the truth be told that references for the other candidates were never contacted... was it a fair process?

In some cases it is clear that one candidate is better prepared and comes across much stronger than the others so why call anyone when you feel better about one candidate than the others?

I think durbin and seder would have had a better chance to bring better coaches with them. We better hope he does not bring any of his assistants with him. I heard many horrible things about his staff and haas. Like his inability to manage the clock or get plays in and playing favorites. Maybe a good fit for wooster after all. Not a discipline coach at all towards language and stuff.

Birddog;1065672 wrote:I think durbin and seder would have had a better chance to bring better coaches with them. We better hope he does not bring any of his assistants with him. I heard many horrible things about his staff and haas. Like his inability to manage the clock or get plays in and playing favorites. Maybe a good fit for wooster after all. Not a discipline coach at all towards language and stuff.

I would be interested to hear more about him not being a discipline guy. Because I have know him to be very much a discipline guy. My knowledge is first hand, is yours?

THE4RINGZ;1065681 wrote:I would be interested to hear more about him not being a discipline guy. Because I have know him to be very much a discipline guy. My knowledge is first hand, is yours?

Ringz, sounds like they made the choice that you were personally hoping for? My sources say that Haas was the choice all along. The others were simply brought in as a formality. It will be interesting to see how the selection turns out for the blue and gold.

The word around Wooster High School is that Haas made a great first impression on the players. The players like him and are ready for the change to a discipline coach. More players then ever have already started showing up to the workouts. More players then orrville gets out for a team....

I would tell you but then you know what. My knowledge would be as good if not better. I see you are a haas supporter which is fine. I just know he does not deal with conflict very well and he will need that with this job. He has had talent at other places but could not manage it. Doug sales himself very well and has the ability to make you believe, but sometimes just cannot deliver. Look at rittman the year they made playoffs team had many very good players and couple great ones like richards, jones and roberts. Still could not win league. Triway had many good players Goldstein and some good lineman names ? could not compete with top schools. Cloverleaf had good talent and lost to last place team all three years.
I do hope Doug does well just needs to step up when it is needed.

Wooster knows what bad coaching is... It can only go up for the kids. Plus Wooster has many names that are being thrown around in recruiting with MAC and Big East schools. They will have some of the best talent since the 03 and 04 generals if not better and more athletic

Birddog;1065757 wrote:I would tell you but then you know what. My knowledge would be as good if not better. I see you are a haas supporter which is fine. I just know he does not deal with conflict very well and he will need that with this job. He has had talent at other places but could not manage it. Doug sales himself very well and has the ability to make you believe, but sometimes just cannot deliver. Look at rittman the year they made playoffs team had many very good players and couple great ones like richards, jones and roberts. Still could not win league. Triway had many good players Goldstein and some good lineman names ? could not compete with top schools. Cloverleaf had good talent and lost to last place team all three years.

I'm sorry, you lost me after the part about Rittman having good players. Rittman hasn't had good players since the 70's. This guy must be the second coming of Vince Lombardi to get that sad sack program into the playoffs. Same goes for Triway.

What I'm hearing is alot of sour grapes from friends of the in-house guys who, frankly, shouldn't have gotten interviews in the first place. They were all incompetent. Wooster has been run for too long by an incompetent head coach who surrounded himself with people even dumber than himself. Good riddance to all of them. I welcome Coach Haas, and look forward to getting this ship straight. There is real talent in the pipeline. And Red Rider fans... I've seen your future. It's not pretty. I think the Riders should strongly consider joining the WCAL in the next few years.

TCB;1065779 wrote:I'm sorry, you lost me after the part about Rittman having good players. Rittman hasn't had good players since the 70's. This guy must be the second coming of Vince Lombardi to get that sad sack program into the playoffs. Same goes for Triway.

What I'm hearing is alot of sour grapes from friends of the in-house guys who, frankly, shouldn't have gotten interviews in the first place. They were all incompetent. Wooster has been run for too long by an incompetent head coach who surrounded himself with people even dumber than himself. Good riddance to all of them. I welcome Coach Haas, and look forward to getting this ship straight. There is real talent in the pipeline. And Red Rider fans... I've seen your future. It's not pretty. I think the Riders should strongly consider joining the WCAL in the next few years.

100% agree on everything

that's not going too happen !!!

Goldstein was his "talent" at Triway? I saw every game he coached at Triway and that is not a name I would have used as an example.

WooGenerals;1065746 wrote:The word around Wooster High School is that Haas made a great first impression on the players. The players like him and are ready for the change to a discipline coach. More players then ever have already started showing up to the workouts. More players then orrville gets out for a team....

Wooster has had more players than Orrville for decades. So what?

Aaron Dorksen;1065533 wrote:Have 2 really disagree, why don't you think it's one of the most coveted FB jobs in the area? Biggest school in area and more kids to pick from, likely bigger pay check when teaching or admin. position is factored in and chance to win against bigger schools w/ brighter spotlight. I didn't say it would be easy - it'll be tough - but that's laughable to think a lot of people wouldn't want this opportunity.

Coveted programs like Smithville, Orrville, and now Norwayne......those are coveted. Wooster has empty stands (even with good teams) and a team/program that has never been at the top like the other three schools. Basically what you're saying is the job is more about money than a strong program.

Dr. KnOiTaLL;1065732 wrote:Ringz, sounds like they made the choice that you were personally hoping for? My sources say that Haas was the choice all along. The others were simply brought in as a formality. It will be interesting to see how the selection turns out for the blue and gold.

I realize it seems like the decision was made ahead of time, but why would they bring someone in from Texas for the first round(as a formality) if they already knew they were going to hire someone else? Sounds a little bit strange to me.

I have to think that they did the first round of interviews in good faith and although they may have had a preference before they started, those people had their chance to blast him out of the running and they simply didn't do it.

If that isn't the case, then there is more wrong with the program than a new coach can fix.

Wooster will be #1 in the OCC after week ten of the season. Get used to it orrville lost everyone of their good players. Woosters players are ready to make their impact on the conference and state. By week 10 those stands will be packed.


#BlueAndGold

When we refer to "area schools" in The Daily Record we're talking about the 18 schools (15 w/ football) in our coverage area, so I wasn't including those you mentioned. I agree those schools would be more coveted to coach at.

Red Right 21;1065631 wrote:Medina,Wadsworth, Strongsville,Brunswick would be nice additions to choose from!

Mr. 300;1065798 wrote:Coveted programs like Smithville, Orrville, and now Norwayne......those are coveted. Wooster has empty stands (even with good teams) and a team/program that has never been at the top like the other three schools. Basically what you're saying is the job is more about money than a strong program.

Not entirely true. I believe if the Wooster program can consistently put a quality team on the field the apathy will disappear. Wooster fans are fickle. Especially old school fans, they grew tired of the same old same old.

The new AD drives this turn around as much as the head coach does at this point. Scheduling is a huge factor.

I am telling you, hold on for a year or two and you will see a completely revived Wooster program.

I can't find your post right now to quote it Dr. Knowitall, but yes Haas has been my choice all along.

I am familiar with both him (my two sons played for him), and the Wooster program. I believe he was the best choice.

THE4RINGZ;1065812 wrote:Not entirely true. I believe if the Wooster program can consistently put a quality team on the field the apathy will disappear. Wooster fans are fickle. Especially old school fans, they grew tired of the same old same old.

The new AD drives this turn around as much as the head coach does at this point. Scheduling is a huge factor.

I am telling you, hold on for a year or two and you will see a completely revived Wooster program.

Agree the Wooster program will not be like it has been. There will be a new football atmosphere around Wooster.

Wooster is returning 8 starters on defense.... No team will be able to run or pass on them enough said

WooGenerals;1065847 wrote:Wooster is returning 8 starters on defense.... No team will be able to run or pass on them enough said

Wow!!! High expectations. hope all your dreams come true! Get your boys focused and hopefully Haas can get the train turned around.

WooGenerals;1065808 wrote:Wooster will be #1 in the OCC after week ten of the season. Get used to it orrville lost everyone of their good players. Woosters players are ready to make their impact on the conference and state. By week 10 those stands will be packed.


#BlueAndGold

WooGenerals;1065847 wrote:Wooster is returning 8 starters on defense.... No team will be able to run or pass on them enough said

Woo-

I'll give you credit for being passionate and making bold statements, but you're starting to blur the line between bold & outlandish.

example-
BOLD---Wooster will be #1 in the OCC after week ten of next season

OUTLANDISH---No team will be able to run or pass on them


Really, the only place to go from here is predicting a state championship (by shutout, of course)

WooGenerals;1065746 wrote:The word around Wooster High School is that Haas made a great first impression on the players. The players like him and are ready for the change to a discipline coach. More players then ever have already started showing up to the workouts. More players then orrville gets out for a team....

Thanks for the firsthand news, Woo. It's always more reliable coming from someone who was there rather than someone who simply heard...

WooGenerals;1065767 wrote:Wooster knows what bad coaching is... It can only go up for the kids. Plus Wooster has many names that are being thrown around in recruiting with MAC and Big East schools. They will have some of the best talent since the 03 and 04 generals if not better and more athletic

You know it's comical, in his time at Wooster, McCreary actually fielded a winning record in a pretty sizable sample. 10+ years at a program with a winning record is not done by a "bad coach." Yes, the Generals have struggled recently and haven't beaten Orrville in 7 years, but obviously in order to post an overall winning record, he must've done SOMETHING right in the past. I'm glad Wooster was able to hire someone that the kids believe in, because regardless of how much talent there is, without hard work it will all go to waste.

TCB;1065779 wrote:I'm sorry, you lost me after the part about Rittman having good players. Rittman hasn't had good players since the 70's.

Give the kids some credit. There have been some very good athletes at Rittman since the 70's. Richards was brought up, and I remember him being a VERY impressive player. In fact, didn't Rittman have a WCAL POY recently, Brandon Bauman? He must've been a "good player" in order to receive that honor. They may struggle on an annual basis, but it's not because there is no talent, it's because of the reputation and lack of support/encouragement.

Mr. 300;1065798 wrote:Coveted programs like Smithville, Orrville, and now Norwayne......those are coveted.

Question 1: Who WOULDN'T want to be at Norwayne right now? Defending state champs!

Question 2: Who WOULD want to go to Smithville after this whole mess? Yikes!

jph1589;1065800 wrote:I realize it seems like the decision was made ahead of time, but why would they bring someone in from Texas for the first round(as a formality) if they already knew they were going to hire someone else? Sounds a little bit strange to me.

I have to think that they did the first round of interviews in good faith and although they may have had a preference before they started, those people had their chance to blast him out of the running and they simply didn't do it.

If that isn't the case, then there is more wrong with the program than a new coach can fix.

I see your point. It would be very rude to have someone fly into town merely as a formality. It's a shame it was a wasted trip!

WooGenerals;1065808 wrote:Wooster will be #1 in the OCC after week ten of the season. Get used to it orrville lost everyone of their good players. Woosters players are ready to make their impact on the conference and state. By week 10 those stands will be packed.


#BlueAndGold

Confidence is one of the first steps towards success. Just make sure you aren't overconfident.

THE4RINGZ;1065816 wrote:I can't find your post right now to quote it Dr. Knowitall, but yes Haas has been my choice all along.

I am familiar with both him (my two sons played for him), and the Wooster program. I believe he was the best choice.

Again, firsthand knowledge is always appreciated as, more often than not, it is much more reliable than secondhand information.

WHO LOVES THE TELEPHONE GAME!?!

WooGenerals;1065847 wrote:Wooster is returning 8 starters on defense.... No team will be able to run or pass on them enough said

Reference what I said about being overconfidence. Do your talking on the field, bud. Leave the message board chatter to the guys that WON'T be on the field...

Red Rum;1065908 wrote:Woo-

I'll give you credit for being passionate and making bold statements, but you're starting to blur the line between bold & outlandish.

example-
BOLD---Wooster will be #1 in the OCC after week ten of next season

OUTLANDISH---No team will be able to run or pass on them


Really, the only place to go from here is predicting a state championship (by shutout, of course)

Agreed. While it is definitely critical to be confident in your coach and your team, it is VERY unlikely for a person who hasn't walked in years to get up and win a marathon. It takes time, hard work, and patience. I'm not saying that Wooster won't change things this year, but to expect an unstoppable defense and run at a state title (I know this was Red Rum's addition) is silly talk. Wooster should simply work to put the right practices in place, and success will surely follow.