wes_mantooth;1010449 wrote:Nice. He was amazing to watch down at the schott

What about the big guy they had?

That chilli team was so athletic. They were so good!!

karen lotz;1010471 wrote:What about the big guy they had?

The big guy from Libbey was Julius Wells, who plays with Hitchens at James Madison.

Hitchens:
http://www.jmusports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=62354&SPID=6826&DB_LANG=C&DB_OEM_ID=14400&ATCLID=204999770&Q_SEASON=2011


Wells:
http://www.jmusports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=62354&SPID=6826&DB_LANG=C&DB_OEM_ID=14400&ATCLID=1600685&Q_SEASON=2011

hoops23;1010464 wrote:Also, my "flyer" in that statement is TALENTED. KU has talent and I don't think anybody can dispute that.

I dispute that. Again, 1 great player. 1 talented but really inconsistent player (Tyshawn). And then a whole bunch of average players, at best. They have Withey and Teahan playing 20+ minutes a game. They aren't a great (or talented) team this season. They probably finish 3rd-5th in the B12 in my opinion.

Tournament team? Sure. Great team (or greatly talented team)? No way.

It's not a bad loss, but it's a game that wouldn't have been a loss with Sullinger playing and it shows how much trouble this team is going to be in if he's out. And when I say trouble I mean in the NCAA tournament, because that's all that really matters (not implying his injury is serious, but if he was to get into early foul trouble, for example).

I think we'd be in much worse shape if he's out than UK without Jones (the other 4 starters average double digits and Miller is a former starter averaging 9 off of the bench) or UNC without Barnes (Hairson is a 5* recruit averaging 8 ppg in 12 minutes off of the bench - obvious drop-off but nowhere near the magnitude of replacing Sullinger with Ravenel/Williams).

karen lotz;1010471 wrote:What about the big guy they had?

Ray Chambers?

http://www.troytrojans.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=2761

Their big guy was Ray Chambers....he almost blew the winning lay in. Humpty called the play to go the length of the court in 4.2 seconds to win it all.

FWIW He's also shooting 47% from 3 land. He always reminded me of Barry Sanders playing basketball.....insane quickness

That team also had Chris Givens who was an excellent receiver at Miami of Ohio.

Mulva;1010477 wrote:I dispute that. Again, 1 great player. 1 talented but really inconsistent player (Tyshawn). And then a whole bunch of average players, at best. They have Withey and Teahan playing 20+ minutes a game. They aren't a great (or talented) team this season. They probably finish 3rd-5th in the B12 in my opinion.

Tournament team? Sure. Great team (or greatly talented team)? No way.

It's not a bad loss, but it's a game that wouldn't have been a loss with Sullinger playing and it shows how much trouble this team is going to be in if he's out. And when I say trouble I mean in the NCAA tournament, because that's all that really matters (not implying his injury is serious, but if he was to get into early foul trouble, for example).

I think we'd be in much worse shape if he's out than UK without Jones (the other 4 starters average double digits and Miller is a former starter averaging 9 off of the bench) or UNC without Barnes (Hairson is a 5* recruit averaging 8 ppg in 12 minutes off of the bench - obvious drop-off but nowhere near the magnitude of replacing Sullinger with Ravenel/Williams).

I think ur going a bit overboard here. Playing without Sullinger, who has played WITH them up until this past week, is going to be a struggle. If he were out for an extended period of time, the team would get better knowing how to play without him. To have him taken away quick, then turn around and expect something from them is a bit much. If he is in foul trouble or something, you have that confidence knowing he is still there and coming back in.
Are you watching UK right now with Jones being a no show? They don't look too great BTW. You take away your best, most consistant player from ANY team, and they are going to struggle. Its still early in the season, but teams have developed a chemisty, players a role, etc, etc.

Remember when Evan turner was out... We were lost. Came back and we took right back off. And I really believe that Ross is going to be huge later in this season!

Ironman92;1010486 wrote:Their big guy was Ray Chambers....he almost blew the winning lay in. Humpty called the play to go the length of the court in 4.2 seconds to win it all.

FWIW He's also shooting 47% from 3 land. He always reminded me of Barry Sanders playing basketball.....insane quickness

Yes!!! that layup caught every part of the rim....amazing finish

centralbucksfan;1010496 wrote:Are you watching UK right now with Jones being a no show? They don't look too great BTW. You take away your best, most consistant player from ANY team, and they are going to struggle. Its still early in the season, but teams have developed a chemisty, players a role, etc, etc.

UK didn't look great, but they had a no-show Jones + Davis in foul trouble the whole game. That would be like Sullinger being out for OSU + Craft or Buford only playing 20 minutes because of foul trouble.

In my opinion, the biggest weakness of the big 3 (in my opinion they're definitely the 3 most talented teams at this point) would be

OSU - post depth
UNC - defense
UK - freshmen playing like freshmen

I think there's no question that OSU wins today if Sully plays, and it showed me that this team has no chance of winning anything big without him on the court. It's not surprising that they'd be seriously hurt by him going down, but it was surprising and disappointing to me how poor of a showing Ravenel and Williams had in his absence. I wasn't expecting anything offensively, but if Williams can't score he has to be a defensive presence. Poor help D, poor post D, pitiful defensive rebounding (again, 3 combined defensive boards in 40 minutes).

Hey Glorius Buckeye fans, what happened today? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA play a good team on the road and look what you produce! You wont play at home in March so enjoy the early exit in the tourney! You were never really in that game today! Let me guess its because Sullinger was out right? It would not have mattered. Kansas is better then OSU period!!!

Red Rider Nation;1010668 wrote:Hey Glorius Buckeye fans, what happened today? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA play a good team on the road and look what you produce! You wont play at home in March so enjoy the early exit in the tourney! You were never really in that game today! Let me guess its because Sullinger was out right? It would not have mattered. Kansas is better then OSU period!!!

You are an idiot.

I hope this helps

Red Rider Nation;1010668 wrote:Hey Glorius Buckeye fans, what happened today? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA play a good team on the road and look what you produce! You wont play at home in March so enjoy the early exit in the tourney! You were never really in that game today! Let me guess its because Sullinger was out right? It would not have mattered. Kansas is better then OSU period!!!

Ignorance at its finest.

Red Rider Nation;1010668 wrote:Hey Glorius Buckeye fans, what happened today? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA play a good team on the road and look what you produce! You wont play at home in March so enjoy the early exit in the tourney! You were never really in that game today! Let me guess its because Sullinger was out right? It would not have mattered. Kansas is better then OSU period!!!

This guy is like sleeper x10. Total retard. He likes a school he couldn't get into if he tripled all his scores. Douche

Red Rider Nation;1010668 wrote:Hey Glorius Buckeye fans, what happened today? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA play a good team on the road and look what you produce! You wont play at home in March so enjoy the early exit in the tourney! You were never really in that game today! Let me guess its because Sullinger was out right? It would not have mattered. Kansas is better then OSU period!!!

Not that it matters...but this could only mean that Dook not only sucks cock, but swallows too.

ytownfootball;1010679 wrote:Not that it matters...but this could only mean that Dook not only sucks cock, but swallows too.

I just reported you. No curse words allowed on here. Stop your whining because your team lost. Its only December

Red Rider Nation;1010668 wrote:Hey Glorius Buckeye fans, what happened today? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA play a good team on the road and look what you produce! You wont play at home in March so enjoy the early exit in the tourney! You were never really in that game today! Let me guess its because Sullinger was out right? It would not have mattered. Kansas is better then OSU period!!!

This is Red Rider Nation, he looks to be at a Gibby-level of retarded.
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ohiobucks1;1010671 wrote:You are an idiot.

I hope this helps

OSU fans are a bunch of whiners!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! Kansas beat you and is the better team. Deal with it!

Red Rider Nation;1010689 wrote:OSU fans are a bunch of whiners!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! Kansas beat you and is the better team. Deal with it!

OSU beat the shit out of Dook so OSU is the better team DEAL WITH IT

Scarlet_Fever;1010693 wrote:OSU beat the **** out of Dook so OSU is the better team DEAL WITH IT

This has been said a million tomes already by all your other so called fans. Give it up obviously OSU is still celebrating our win and forgot they had a game today woth Kansas Oh and by the Way Duke beat Kansas on a neutral court by 7!

Yoiu Buckeye fans are coming off of your high and realizing you arent that great! A win over Duke and you thought you would run the table and be national champs? Not even close guys! Your team was never the 2nd best team in the country.

Red Rider Nation;1010683 wrote:I just reported you. No curse words allowed on here. Stop your whining because your team lost. Its only December

As a moderator on this site and as someone who helped write the rules, I have to tell you that you are a retard and completely wrong

First off nobody thought osu would run the table. That's crazy. And we waxed your ass!!! We lost today. We aren't sitting here crying like you wanted us to so you're trying to egg it on. But we lost a game at one of the toughest venues in basketball, without our all American, and had it down to 4 with 2:19 to go. Blow me! 85-63 trumps anything you say.

Red Rider Nation;1010689 wrote:duke fans are a bunch of whiners!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! Osu beat you and is the better team. Deal with it!

fixed for accuracy!