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athlete37

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Dec 11, 2009 9:08 PM
The things that ESPN said Stoops wanted. ND only gave in for number 4 apparently:
1. 2 academic exemptions per year over 4 years. ND said nope.
2. A player eating area so that the coaches can have better control of player diets. ND said no they will eat with everyone else.
3. Stoops wanted to handle all disciplinary issues with players unless it involves a crime. ND said no.
4. Stoops wanted a few JUCO's to be admitted. ND said fine as long as they meet the academic requirements of all students.
Dec 11, 2009 9:08pm
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Dec 11, 2009 9:10 PM
Kudos to ND for not bending on things they think are important, although they could have bent the rules for #2.... not sure that's a HUGE deal.
Dec 11, 2009 9:10pm
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Dec 11, 2009 9:14 PM
I'm still waiting for that Stoops announcement...
Dec 11, 2009 9:14pm
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sjmvsfscs08

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Dec 11, 2009 9:14 PM
Not that I don't believe you, but have a link?

I have some friends of my own who are furious at me as well. :)
Dec 11, 2009 9:14pm
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Dec 11, 2009 9:15 PM
ND prides itself on making the athletes a normal part of the student body and wants them to be integrated in with the rest of the community-like campus, that's why I'd say they didn't bend on that one. I wouldn't have cared personally though, but I guess they don't want to create an attitude that the athletes are better than the rest of the student body
Dec 11, 2009 9:15pm
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Dec 11, 2009 9:17 PM
I don't understand why you wouldn't give into #2.

Anyone care to explain what an "academic exemption" means?
Dec 11, 2009 9:17pm
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Dec 11, 2009 9:18 PM
Also, the following is on the front of the NDNation website: Brian Kelly will be the next head coach at Notre Dame. Kelly informed his current team that he was leaving for the Irish Thursday night. Notre Dame first targeted Bob Stoops, but despite fast progress and interest on both sides, negotiations fell apart late last week. We will share what we can about the process next week. Kelly will not coach the Bearcats in the Sugar Bowl against Florida. A formal announcement is expected tomorrow.
Dec 11, 2009 9:18pm
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Dec 11, 2009 9:19 PM
sleeper wrote: I don't understand why you wouldn't give into #2.

Anyone care to explain what an "academic exemption" means?
my guess is a couple fellas who don't quite make the grade at ND.
Dec 11, 2009 9:19pm
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Dec 11, 2009 9:20 PM
Those ND-Oklahoma games coming up in a couple years should be interesting.....
Dec 11, 2009 9:20pm
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Dec 11, 2009 9:22 PM
I would imagine a lot of boos
Dec 11, 2009 9:22pm
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Dec 11, 2009 9:37 PM
sleeper wrote: Anyone care to explain what an "academic exemption" means?
They probably would turn their head of some moron with a 14 on his ACT wants to play football.
Dec 11, 2009 9:37pm
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Dec 11, 2009 9:41 PM
I'm no "golden domer" but you have to admire the university sticking to its core beliefs.
Dec 11, 2009 9:41pm
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Dec 11, 2009 9:42 PM
How can this be when in another post someone posted that the A.D. from Notre Dame said they had not talked to anyone but Coach Kelly about this job?
Dec 11, 2009 9:42pm
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Dec 11, 2009 9:44 PM
Someone bright up a good point on Irish illustrated. Say they made 85 exemptions, their whole footbal team basically. That is less than 1 percent of the student body. Obviously they wouldn't need that many expemtions, but just some food for thought.
Dec 11, 2009 9:44pm
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Sonofanump

Dec 11, 2009 9:47 PM
sleeper wrote:Anyone care to explain what an "academic exemption" means?
Think T.J. Duckett.
Dec 11, 2009 9:47pm
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Dec 11, 2009 9:50 PM
ghosthunter wrote: I'm no "golden domer" but you have to admire the university sticking to its core beliefs.
You sure do, but you have to laugh at their fans who expect them to compete at the highest level.
Dec 11, 2009 9:50pm
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Dec 11, 2009 9:51 PM
Sonofanump wrote:
sleeper wrote:Anyone care to explain what an "academic exemption" means?
Think T.J. Duckett.
Think Terrelle Pryor lol.
Dec 11, 2009 9:51pm
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Dec 11, 2009 9:56 PM
Sonofanump wrote:
sleeper wrote:Anyone care to explain what an "academic exemption" means?
Think T.J. Duckett.
Think Freddie Lenix from Glenville, class of maybe '03? Tons of talent, but never made it onto the field for the buckeyes. Couldn't handle the academics, so he decided on the JUCO route for 1-2 years, then possibly come back. JUCO didn't work either.

On another thread I posted how a freshman @ ND is expected to walk into a college level calculus class. There are no high school calc refresher courses @ ND which is what a academic exception individual would require.
Dec 11, 2009 9:56pm
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Dec 11, 2009 9:59 PM
SQ_Crazies wrote:
ghosthunter wrote: I'm no "golden domer" but you have to admire the university sticking to its core beliefs.
You sure do, but you have to laugh at their fans who expect them to compete at the highest level.
You're very correct. However if BK can return to a competetive level, touchdown Jesus will have a touchdown Kelly to converse with on those cold windy South Bend days.
Dec 11, 2009 9:59pm
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Dec 11, 2009 10:01 PM
Still doesn't mean they'll be able to play defense. I'm not sold on Kelly competing at the highest level. The Big East is not the highest level.
Dec 11, 2009 10:01pm
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steel_curtain

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Dec 11, 2009 10:27 PM
SQ_Crazies wrote:
ghosthunter wrote: I'm no "golden domer" but you have to admire the university sticking to its core beliefs.
You sure do, but you have to laugh at their fans who expect them to compete at the highest level.
Sort of like I laugh at people who already ahve more than 1100 posts here.
Dec 11, 2009 10:27pm
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Dec 11, 2009 10:42 PM
steel_curtain wrote:
SQ_Crazies wrote:
ghosthunter wrote: I'm no "golden domer" but you have to admire the university sticking to its core beliefs.
You sure do, but you have to laugh at their fans who expect them to compete at the highest level.
Sort of like I laugh at people who already ahve more than 1100 posts here.
LOL...ok?
Dec 11, 2009 10:42pm
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Dec 11, 2009 10:46 PM
I have quite a few posts, so what?

I've been here since day one though, and have gotten into some lengthy back and forths on certain topics...
Dec 11, 2009 10:46pm
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Dec 11, 2009 10:56 PM
athlete37 wrote: 2. A player eating area so that the coaches can have better control of player diets. ND said no they will eat with everyone else.
swarbrick said after the conference today he is working on a training table *only* for the notre dame football team where a nutritionists will prepare the players meals.
Dec 11, 2009 10:56pm
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Dec 11, 2009 10:57 PM
The fact that they wouldn't give in to some of those makes me laugh. Especially that one.
Dec 11, 2009 10:57pm