Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Dec 14, 2011 9:50pm
I think its terrible for the Clippers. Gave up way to much for CP3. He and Griffin will be amazing together, but the team as a whole will suffer.
NOLA is making out really well, though I doubt Gordon re-ups next year. I see him going back to Indiana. If he hadnt been traded, I think he would have re-signed with LAC. LAC with Blake, Jordan, EJ, and a top 10 pick is better than Blake, CP3 and Jordan. No doubt in my mind. Then you throw in the fact they also got rid of Aminu and Kaman? Sheesh.
I think short term it was a solid move, and Paul may re-up since he is in LA and has Griffin, but even so not sure it was worth it. I guess making a splash alone might bring in the $$$ and therefore help them...who knows.
NOLA is making out really well, though I doubt Gordon re-ups next year. I see him going back to Indiana. If he hadnt been traded, I think he would have re-signed with LAC. LAC with Blake, Jordan, EJ, and a top 10 pick is better than Blake, CP3 and Jordan. No doubt in my mind. Then you throw in the fact they also got rid of Aminu and Kaman? Sheesh.
I think short term it was a solid move, and Paul may re-up since he is in LA and has Griffin, but even so not sure it was worth it. I guess making a splash alone might bring in the $$$ and therefore help them...who knows.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Dec 14, 2011 9:51pm
Laley23;1015234 wrote: LAC with Blake, Jordan, EJ, and a top 10 pick is better than Blake, CP3 and Jordan.
Agreed.
chicago510
Posts: 5,728
Dec 14, 2011 9:53pm
I agree with everything in this post. Stern held out and got a mega-deal but took a huge PR hit for the league. Laker fans have to be bitter.Laley23;1015234 wrote:I think its terrible for the Clippers. Gave up way to much for CP3. He and Griffin will be amazing together, but the team as a whole will suffer.
NOLA is making out really well, though I doubt Gordon re-ups next year. I see him going back to Indiana. If he hadnt been traded, I think he would have re-signed with LAC. LAC with Blake, Jordan, EJ, and a top 10 pick is better than Blake, CP3 and Jordan. No doubt in my mind. Then you throw in the fact they also got rid of Aminu and Kaman? Sheesh.
I think short term it was a solid move, and Paul may re-up since he is in LA and has Griffin, but even so not sure it was worth it. I guess making a splash alone might bring in the $$$ and therefore help them...who knows.
Griffin-Paul is great, but we all know it takes more than that to win. But LAC have apparently sold out their season tickets for the first time in awhile. Thats big for a second-fiddle team.
Gordon is not re-signing in NO, but neither is anyone else in the current situation. They got nice pieces, but who wants to play there? Its toxic right now.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Dec 14, 2011 9:57pm
Who's starting at the Clippers #2 and 3 spot? I hope they're not going into the season counting on Caron Butler who has average 55 games over the 3 seasons.
thedynasty1998
Posts: 6,844
Dec 14, 2011 9:59pm
He's young, which is more so what I meant. He won't be asked to score much and he was decent last year splitting minutes. He should be a 13 ppg and 13 rpg guy this year.Hb31187;1015227 wrote:Idk if id call Jordan being set at the 5. Hes still unproven and raw, not to mention they have no good back up for either Griffin or Jordan(unless you're counting Thompkins or Cook as being halfway decent)
Butler, Foye, Williams, Bledsoe, Billups and whoever Leslie is, is decent depth.lhslep134;1015233 wrote:Of course dynasty considers them set at 5 with Jordan, because he considers Randy Foye and Travis Leslie decent depth at the 2 LOL
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Dec 14, 2011 10:01pm
Sick of this CP3 shit lol
Heat have unveiled/revealed a new 3rd jersey....
Personally, I like them. But doesn't this mean they have 4 jerseys now? White, red, black and now this one?
Heat have unveiled/revealed a new 3rd jersey....
Personally, I like them. But doesn't this mean they have 4 jerseys now? White, red, black and now this one?
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Dec 14, 2011 10:01pm
I will bet just about anything this doesn't happen.thedynasty1998;1015259 wrote: He should be a 13 ppg and 13 rpg guy this year.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Dec 14, 2011 10:03pm
Meh, be better with the normal heat logo IMO. Call me biased but I still think the Cavs blue alternative is still the GOAT jersey. Followed by Old Skool Charlotte Hornets jerseys.wildcats20;1015263 wrote:Sick of this CP3 shit lol
Heat have unveiled/revealed a new 3rd jersey....
Personally, I like them. But doesn't this mean they have 4 jerseys now? White, red, black and now this one?
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Dec 14, 2011 10:05pm
Butler is a 3 and an injury liability, Williams is a 1, Bledsoe is a 1, and Billups COULD play the 2 (and I would personally like to see him play with CP3).thedynasty1998;1015259 wrote: Butler, Foye, Williams, Bledsoe, Billups and whoever Leslie is, is decent depth.
The Clippers have no depth at the 2, I can't fathom how you can say otherwise.
chicago510
Posts: 5,728
Dec 14, 2011 10:05pm
You realize the 2 is SG right? Most of those guys are PGs or combo guards at best.thedynasty1998;1015259 wrote:
Butler, Foye, Williams, Bledsoe, Billups and whoever Leslie is, is decent depth.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Dec 14, 2011 10:06pm
This one?Commander of Awesome;1015269 wrote:Meh, be better with the normal heat logo IMO. Call me biased but I still think the Cavs blue alternative is still the GOAT jersey. Followed by Old Skool Charlotte Hornets jerseys.
I love them. But call me biased(lol), the Lakers' Pearly Whites are my favorite.
thedynasty1998
Posts: 6,844
Dec 14, 2011 10:06pm
Commander of Awesome;1015264 wrote:I will bet just about anything this doesn't happen.
He averaged 7 and 7 last year playing 25 minutes a game. I would imagine Paul gets him at least 4 easy ppg. With increased minutes and improvement 13 rpg shouldn't be too much of a reach.
chicago510
Posts: 5,728
Dec 14, 2011 10:07pm
Both of those are awesome, like how the Lakers only wear the white on Sunday at home.
That heat jersey blows, looks like they ran out of color ink.
That heat jersey blows, looks like they ran out of color ink.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Dec 14, 2011 10:07pm
Considering only 1 player in the NBA averaged more than 12 rebounds per game last year (D12), I highly doubt Jordan will average 13 RPG.thedynasty1998;1015259 wrote: He should be a 13 ppg and 13 rpg guy this year.
Do you even watch basketball?
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Dec 14, 2011 10:07pm
I think Williams would be a better 2 than PG.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Dec 14, 2011 10:08pm
chicago510;1015275 wrote:You realize the 2 is SG right? Most of those guys are PGs or combo guards at best.
Foye is a legit 2, and Leslie is a development project but showed flashes at Georgia. That's the extent of their depth.
thedynasty1998
Posts: 6,844
Dec 14, 2011 10:08pm
But Paul can guard a 2. It's irrelevant on offense. Paul can play alongside all of them.lhslep134;1015273 wrote:Butler is a 3 and an injury liability, Williams is a 1, Bledsoe is a 1, and Billups COULD play the 2 (and I would personally like to see him play with CP3).
The Clippers have no depth at the 2, I can't fathom how you can say otherwise.
Yes I realize that. And you realize combo guard means they can play the 2?chicago510;1015275 wrote:You realize the 2 is SG right? Most of those guys are PGs or combo guards at best.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Dec 14, 2011 10:09pm
lol 2, yes TWO, guys averaged more than 13 rpg last year. Dwight Howard and Kevin Love. ONLY 6 guys TOTAL had more than 10/game. DeAndre Jordan is NOT going to get 13/game.thedynasty1998;1015278 wrote:He averaged 7 and 7 last year playing 25 minutes a game. I would imagine Paul gets him at least 4 easy ppg. With increased minutes and improvement 13 rpg shouldn't be too much of a reach.
thedynasty1998
Posts: 6,844
Dec 14, 2011 10:09pm
He was basically a 2 in Cleveland, offensively.Pick6;1015282 wrote:I think Williams would be a better 2 than PG.
Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
Dec 14, 2011 10:10pm
Leslie can jump out of the damn gym. Idk about his all around game though
thedynasty1998
Posts: 6,844
Dec 14, 2011 10:11pm
That is ALL they will ask him to do. Plus they will play an up-tempo style which creates more possessions, so more opportunities. He has the physical tools to be a 13 rpg guy.wildcats20;1015287 wrote:lol 2, yes TWO, guys averaged more than 13 rpg last year. Dwight Howard and Kevin Love. ONLY 6 guys TOTAL had more than 10/game. DeAndre Jordan is NOT going to get 13/game.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Dec 14, 2011 10:13pm
You realize there is more to basketball than offense right? Love how you add "basically" which means he wasn't but you're going to spin it to your idiotic argument. Cue you're failspn.thedynasty1998;1015288 wrote:He was basically a 2 in Cleveland, offensively.
thedynasty1998
Posts: 6,844
Dec 14, 2011 10:13pm
Actually 4 did.lhslep134;1015280 wrote:Considering only 1 player in the NBA averaged more than 12 rebounds per game last year (D12), I highly doubt Jordan will average 13 RPG.
Do you even watch basketball?
thedynasty1998
Posts: 6,844
Dec 14, 2011 10:14pm
You realize I said Paul can guard the 2 guard?Commander of Awesome;1015296 wrote:You realize there is more to basketball than offense right? Love how you add "basically" which means he wasn't but you're going to spin it to your idiotic argument. Cue you're failspn.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Dec 14, 2011 10:14pm
Same arguement could be said for Amare in NYC/PHX yet it never happened. Like I said, I'm willing to bet it wont happen.thedynasty1998;1015292 wrote:That is ALL they will ask him to do. Plus they will play an up-tempo style which creates more possessions, so more opportunities. He has the physical tools to be a 13 rpg guy.
Oh btw, before you try to claim otherwise, Amare > DeAndre Jordon and PHX/NYC Tempo > LAC