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Zoltan
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Dec 9, 2011 12:01pm
Yeah, Heacock is gone. I heard his office was cleaned out right after the Michigan game.Writerbuckeye;1008953 wrote:From stuff written on other sites, I get the impression that Heacock is ready to retire. He's in his mid 60s and there were reports that he had problems adjusting to some of the offenses OSU played this year. Perhaps he's decided it's time to call it a career. I've seen nothing to suggest he is being retained.
OSU offered Stoops a little of over a million to be DC, but it doesn’t look he is going accept. That is what I was referring to when I said a new era of paying assistants. I don’t get the impression it’s going to be right in line with what Michigan is paying, or anyone else in the Big Ten. It’s going to be more, and possibly a lot more.

sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Dec 9, 2011 12:05pm
I like Heacock, wish him the best. He's an underrated defensive coach who's crafted teams that are just studs on defense.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Dec 9, 2011 12:13pm
^^they sure as hell weren't studs this season, especially in the second half

Quint
Posts: 737
Dec 9, 2011 1:00pm
Ohio State asked for and received NCAA approval to exceed the limit of football coaches on staff through the Buckeyes' bowl game.
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/bigten/story/2011-12-09/NCAA-ohio-state-two-staffs-urban-meyer-luke-fickell/51762334/1?csp=34sports
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/bigten/story/2011-12-09/NCAA-ohio-state-two-staffs-urban-meyer-luke-fickell/51762334/1?csp=34sports
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Dec 9, 2011 1:30pm
But only if it's a Stoops. They aren't going to pay that kind of money just because. And I think that list of names is very short.Zoltan;1008984 wrote:Yeah, Heacock is gone. I heard his office was cleaned out right after the Michigan game.
OSU offered Stoops a little of over a million to be DC, but it doesn’t look he is going accept. That is what I was referring to when I said a new era of paying assistants. I don’t get the impression it’s going to be right in line with what Michigan is paying, or anyone else in the Big Ten. It’s going to be more, and possibly a lot more.

se-alum
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Dec 9, 2011 4:07pm
Herman is the OC.
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WebFire
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Dec 9, 2011 4:21pm
I heard reports earlier, but thought it was bad info and that he was only QB coach.se-alum;1009273 wrote:Herman is the OC.
I'm guessing he wasn't on the $1m list.
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cats gone wild
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Dec 9, 2011 5:24pm
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Zoltan
Posts: 1,003
Dec 9, 2011 6:10pm
Herman is exactly the type of guy who can work for Meyer because he is young, energetic and will recruit 24/7. He is also very highly regarded as a young offensive guy. He will most certainly be gone for a head coaching job in a few years though which makes this an interesting move.
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cats gone wild
Posts: 2,651
Dec 9, 2011 6:12pm
I thought Meyer was going to get who ever he wants and that OSU will pay whatever? Doesnt appear that way.

Terry_Tate
Posts: 7,606
Dec 9, 2011 6:27pm
http://bruce-feldman.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/31626208/33343011
Based on what I've read, I really like the hire.
Based on what I've read, I really like the hire.
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Dec 9, 2011 6:29pm
So far there's no reason to believe his staff won't be as good as any in the country.cats gone wild;1009414 wrote:I thought Meyer was going to get who ever he wants and that OSU will pay whatever? Doesnt appear that way.
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centralbucksfan
Posts: 5,111
Dec 9, 2011 6:50pm
cats gone wild;1009414 wrote:I thought Meyer was going to get who ever he wants and that OSU will pay whatever? Doesnt appear that way.
Uh, and who said he hasn't so far?
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Dec 9, 2011 8:08pm
cats gone wild;1009414 wrote:I thought Meyer was going to get who ever he wants and that OSU will pay whatever? Doesnt appear that way.
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cats gone wild
Posts: 2,651
Dec 9, 2011 10:25pm
You guys acted like Stoops was on board, you were going to get Stud, the guy from Clemson..............vball10set;1009483 wrote:I don't understand...did someone Meyer want choose not to join his staff because OSU refused to pay what he was asking? please explain
Getting an Iowa St guy for QB coach and THEN making him OC also, shows you dont/cant get everyone you want. I think there's others I read that Meyer has tried to get (cant remember their names) that they havent got. If OSU was willing to spend the money (something they never have done for assistants), then you guys wouldnt of hired Herman for both QB and OC coach.

Midstate01
Posts: 14,766
Dec 9, 2011 10:29pm
To be honest i wanted stud for oline. That was all. But to get him I would have been cool with him being oc. But this guy is great with qb's and is young and has had a lot of success with not do talented teams. So I'm on board. I trust Meyer will hire who he wants. I'm sure there will be guys he want who decline or get pay days at their current schools. That's fine!!

se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Dec 9, 2011 10:50pm
Haven't read any of the links, so this might have been mentioned, but Herman is a Mensa member, and by most all counts, quite the offensive mind. We'll see how it works out. Don't hate the hire.

se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Dec 9, 2011 11:01pm
Unless you have inside info, and I'm 99.9% sure you don't, you have no idea how the hiring of Herman worked. I would bet everything I own, that Herman was hired as the OC from the very beginning. They didn't just make him the OC, cause they couldn't get anyone else. Sure, they may have lost Morris, but who is gonna pay an OC that kind of money if they've never won anything? I realize you're scared of what OSU may become with Meyer at the helm, but don't act like you know anything about Herman's hiring process.cats gone wild;1009606 wrote:You guys acted like Stoops was on board, you were going to get Stud, the guy from Clemson..............
Getting an Iowa St guy for QB coach and THEN making him OC also, shows you dont/cant get everyone you want. I think there's others I read that Meyer has tried to get (cant remember their names) that they havent got. If OSU was willing to spend the money (something they never have done for assistants), then you guys wouldnt of hired Herman for both QB and OC coach.
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cats gone wild
Posts: 2,651
Dec 9, 2011 11:15pm
Yeah. Scared. To death.se-alum;1009634 wrote:Unless you have inside info, and I'm 99.9% sure you don't, you have no idea how the hiring of Herman worked. I would bet everything I own, that Herman was hired as the OC from the very beginning. They didn't just make him the OC, cause they couldn't get anyone else. Sure, they may have lost Morris, but who is gonna pay an OC that kind of money if they've never won anything? I realize you're scared of what OSU may become with Meyer at the helm, but don't act like you know anything about Herman's hiring process.


se-alum
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Dec 9, 2011 11:18pm
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cats gone wild
Posts: 2,651
Dec 9, 2011 11:25pm
Didnt say they couldnt find someone else. I knew they were looking and no one accepted. Right? I said they cant/dont get everyone they want.
Did you know that the OSU DC Paul Haynes just went to Arkansas?
Did you know that the OSU DC Paul Haynes just went to Arkansas?

se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Dec 9, 2011 11:28pm
Paul Haynes was never the DC at OSU.cats gone wild;1009649 wrote:Didnt say they couldnt find someone else. I knew they were looking and no one accepted. Right?
Did you know that the OSU DC Paul Haynes just went to Arkansas?
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cats gone wild
Posts: 2,651
Dec 9, 2011 11:30pm
I dont know Ohio States coaches names/what position they coach......but just saw tweets that "Ohio State's DC Paul Haynes is going to Arkansas".se-alum;1009651 wrote:Paul Haynes was never the DC at OSU.

se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Dec 9, 2011 11:31pm
Exactly.cats gone wild;1009652 wrote:I dont know Ohio States coaches names/what position they coach......but just saw tweets that "Ohio State's DC Paul Haynes is going to Arkansas".
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cats gone wild
Posts: 2,651
Dec 9, 2011 11:32pm
But, its sure funny how multiple tweets and this story says he is the "co" DC of OSU.se-alum;1009653 wrote:Exactly.
http://www.5newsonline.com/sports/kfsm-confirmed-haynes-accepts-arkansas-defensive-coordinator-position-20111209,0,5420277.story