
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Dec 12, 2011 9:48pm
I like Withers because his defenses attack, and the secondary reaps the benefits of a hurried QB. His secondaries have been interception machines pretty much everywhere he has been.

jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Dec 12, 2011 10:08pm
Will Withers be the DC along with Fickell? Has anybody found out what Fickell's official title will be?
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rightfield
Posts: 164
Dec 13, 2011 2:19pm
Fickell will be calling the defensive plays.

se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Dec 13, 2011 3:00pm
Anything to back this up? I think it would be strange for a guy like Withers who is a damn good DC to come to OSU just to be a Secondary coach. My guess would be Withers and Fickell as Co-DC's, while Withers also coaches the Secondary, and Fickell is Asst. HC.rightfield;1013733 wrote:Fickell will be calling the defensive plays.

chicago510
Posts: 5,728
Dec 13, 2011 3:01pm
Meyer announced this today on 97.1 The Fan that Fick would call playsse-alum;1013778 wrote:Anything to back this up? I think it would be strange for a guy like Withers who is a damn good DC to come to OSU just to be a Secondary coach. My guess would be Withers and Fickell as Co-DC's, while Withers also coaches the Secondary, and Fickell is Asst. HC.

sleeper
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Dec 13, 2011 3:04pm
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7348959/urban-meyer-says-luke-fickell-call-defense-ohio-state-buckeyesse-alum;1013778 wrote:Anything to back this up? I think it would be strange for a guy like Withers who is a damn good DC to come to OSU just to be a Secondary coach. My guess would be Withers and Fickell as Co-DC's, while Withers also coaches the Secondary, and Fickell is Asst. HC.

se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Dec 13, 2011 3:27pm
Thanks, interesting that Meyer could get Withers without him being the DC.chicago510;1013781 wrote:Meyer announced this today on 97.1 The Fan that Fick would call plays

jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Dec 13, 2011 8:46pm
uggh I was hoping Akron would take Fickell off our hands. I was fine with him being assistant head coach and LB coach. Not a fan of him being "the guy" defensively. He showed me little to zero leadership on the sideline this past season and more often than not, he had a scared / puzzled look on his face.
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rightfield
Posts: 164
Dec 13, 2011 10:25pm
Those details will get worked out as they go but Fickell is going to get every chance to develop into a top notch DC under the watchful eye of Urban and the people Urban puts around Luke to help him. He wont hurt the defense- Fickell nor Urban will let that happen.
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Dec 14, 2011 7:14am
So one year of a job he wasn't ready for overrides several seasons of being one of the top assistants in the country?jordo212000;1014117 wrote:uggh I was hoping Akron would take Fickell off our hands. I was fine with him being assistant head coach and LB coach. Not a fan of him being "the guy" defensively. He showed me little to zero leadership on the sideline this past season and more often than not, he had a scared / puzzled look on his face.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Dec 14, 2011 8:01am
Now that Fickell is allowed to concentrate solely on his defense, and not have to be concerned with all the other stuff that's invloved with being the head coach, he's going to be fine.
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centralbucksfan
Posts: 5,111
Dec 14, 2011 9:22am
Meyer said in the interview, that Fickell does not yet have a title. Meyer is not someone who is hung up with titles. He mentioned Fickell could have a "co" next to his name.
"But insiders say Meyer is going to want a defense run by consortium rather than dictation, which explains why he shied away from former Arizona coach Mike Stoops and apparently has zeroed in on Everett Withers, the interim coach at North Carolina."
http://www.buckeyextra.com/content/stories/2011/12/14/meyer-fickell-will-call-defense.html
"But insiders say Meyer is going to want a defense run by consortium rather than dictation, which explains why he shied away from former Arizona coach Mike Stoops and apparently has zeroed in on Everett Withers, the interim coach at North Carolina."
http://www.buckeyextra.com/content/stories/2011/12/14/meyer-fickell-will-call-defense.html

OneBuckeye
Posts: 5,888
Dec 14, 2011 10:27am
Texas AM's Oline coach has been interviewed.

OneBuckeye
Posts: 5,888
Dec 14, 2011 10:40am
Everett Withers is supposedly a done deal to OSU. Huge get.

jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Dec 14, 2011 9:53pm
queencitybuckeye;1014327 wrote:So one year of a job he wasn't ready for overrides several seasons of being one of the top assistants in the country?
How would anybody know he was a top assistant? It was Heacock's defense

LJ
Posts: 16,351
Dec 14, 2011 9:55pm
jordo212000;1015239 wrote:How would anybody know he was a top assistant? It was Heacock's defense
If he was co dcoord, wouldnt it hace been Fickell and Heacock's defense?
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zach24oz
Posts: 598
Dec 14, 2011 9:56pm
I'm pretty sure Heacock has been head over the D for the past few years, he just has other defensive coaches with "CO" around their title.

jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Dec 14, 2011 9:58pm
LJ;1015242 wrote:If he was co dcoord, wouldnt it hace been Fickell and Heacock's defense?
No.

OneBuckeye
Posts: 5,888
Dec 14, 2011 10:00pm
Jordo and Zach GTFOWTS. Seriously.

LJ
Posts: 16,351
Dec 14, 2011 10:03pm
jordo212000;1015255 wrote:No.
And you know for a fact Fickell had nothing to do with it?
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zach24oz
Posts: 598
Dec 14, 2011 10:08pm
So you all think Fickell has been the head guy over the D for the last few years? Seriously? From what I have seen and heard he took over being the main guy after Dantonio left. Not saying Fickell hasnt been a big or little part of the D's success, just saying I dont think he has been making the calls on D as other people seem to think.

OneBuckeye
Posts: 5,888
Dec 14, 2011 10:10pm
On topic Tim Hinton ND RB coach I believe is close to being the TE Coach at OSU. The staff is shaping up to look like this.
QB: Tom Herman
RB: Stan Drayton
WR: Zach Smith
TE: Tim Hinton
OL: Jim Turner
DL: Luke Fickell
LB: Mike Vrabel
CB: Taver Johnson
S: Everett Withers
QB: Tom Herman
RB: Stan Drayton
WR: Zach Smith
TE: Tim Hinton
OL: Jim Turner
DL: Luke Fickell
LB: Mike Vrabel
CB: Taver Johnson
S: Everett Withers

jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Dec 14, 2011 10:21pm
LJ;1015268 wrote:And you know for a fact Fickell had nothing to do with it?
I know for a fact that Heacock had 'more' to do with it

OneBuckeye
Posts: 5,888
Dec 14, 2011 10:40pm
lulz
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Dec 15, 2011 6:06am
It's the opinion of people actually in the game, they know.jordo212000;1015239 wrote:How would anybody know he was a top assistant? It was Heacock's defense