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Nov 23, 2011 11:11 PM
I voted for Matt Turk.
Nov 23, 2011 11:11pm
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Nov 24, 2011 7:43 AM
I love Dan Bailey and its great to have a kicker the Cowboys can count on but he won't win Rookie of the Year. I'd give my vote to Von Miller.
Nov 24, 2011 7:43am
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Nov 24, 2011 7:46 AM
Yeah, I'd go with Von Miller...f'in beast
Nov 24, 2011 7:46am
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Nov 24, 2011 8:15 AM
Cam go HAM. He'd get my vote.
Nov 24, 2011 8:15am
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Nov 24, 2011 10:22 AM
Torrey Smith.
Nov 24, 2011 10:22am
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Nov 24, 2011 10:35 AM
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Nov 24, 2011 10:35am
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Nov 24, 2011 10:35 AM
bigdaddy2003;985880 wrote:Torrey Smith.
lol no.
Nov 24, 2011 10:35am
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Nov 24, 2011 10:38 AM
like_that;985890 wrote:lol no.
I was only half serious but he's definitely going to be good.
Nov 24, 2011 10:38am
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Nov 24, 2011 11:52 AM
bigdaddy2003;985894 wrote:I was only half serious but he's definitely going to be good.
He is going to be good. But Von Miller is gonna be a pro bowler this year based on the few games I've seen.
Nov 24, 2011 11:52am
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Nov 24, 2011 11:54 AM
Yeah, Miller is a beast.
Nov 24, 2011 11:54am
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Nov 24, 2011 12:14 PM
don't they do a rookie of the year for both sides of the ball? if so.

offense- cam newton

defense- von miller
Nov 24, 2011 12:14pm
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Nov 24, 2011 1:07 PM
Offense: Cam right now, AJ Green and DeMarco Murray still in the running
Defense: Von Miller, with Ryan Kerrigan right on his heels
Nov 24, 2011 1:07pm
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Nov 24, 2011 8:14 PM
Cam hands down best offensive
Nov 24, 2011 8:14pm
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Nov 24, 2011 8:54 PM
Mr. Bailey with another game winning kick
Nov 24, 2011 8:54pm
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Nov 24, 2011 9:00 PM
Pick6;986207 wrote:Mr. Bailey with another game winning kick

That I could've made.
Nov 24, 2011 9:00pm
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Nov 24, 2011 9:47 PM
bigdaddy2003;985894 wrote:I was only half serious but he's definitely going to be good.
I'm worried he is going to be a Meachem/Stallworth part 2. He doesn't run great routes and all his catches seem to be long bombs. Haven't seen him make all the catches to agree with that prediction. I havent seen every Ravens game though.
Nov 24, 2011 9:47pm
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Nov 24, 2011 10:03 PM
Dalton.
Nov 24, 2011 10:03pm
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Nov 25, 2011 12:11 AM
If the Bengals make the playoffs, it has to be Andy Dalton for offensive ROY. Cam is great, but if it wasn't for him rushing the ball, his numbers aren't any better than Dalton's.
Nov 25, 2011 12:11am
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Nov 25, 2011 1:14 AM
Azubuike24;986401 wrote: Cam is great, but if it wasn't for him rushing the ball, his numbers aren't any better than Dalton's.
First of all, discounting the rushing statistics doesn't make any sense. But 2nd of all, yes they are. He has almost 800 more passing yards, 1.5 more yards/attempt (8.0 to 6.5), and way more big plays (20+ yards).

Dalton has more touchdowns, and that's it. Cam is a gunslinger, and Dalton is a game manager.

The only real argument Dalton has is wins and losses. Which has a lot more to do with the fact that the Bengals defense has allowed almost 100 points less than the Carolina D than anything offensively (Cinci has 11 more points than Carolina on the season, and the Panthers are 5th in the NFL in total offense).

I'd take Green way before Dalton, and Cam before both of them for ROY at this point.
Nov 25, 2011 1:14am
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Nov 25, 2011 1:21 AM
DeMarco Murray would be my #2 choice behind Newton if it ended right now.
Nov 25, 2011 1:21am
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Nov 25, 2011 4:05 AM
Cam>Dalton, even if they do make the playoffs.
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Nov 25, 2011 8:22 AM
Commander of Awesome;986256 wrote:I'm worried he is going to be a Meachem/Stallworth part 2. He doesn't run great routes and all his catches seem to be long bombs. Haven't seen him make all the catches to agree with that prediction. I havent seen every Ravens game though.
That's the thing with Smith. He's great running a "go" route but he's got a lot to learn as far as precision route running. He's not very good in that facet of his game yet.
Nov 25, 2011 8:22am
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Nov 25, 2011 11:03 AM
Mulva;986422 wrote:First of all, discounting the rushing statistics doesn't make any sense. But 2nd of all, yes they are. He has almost 800 more passing yards, 1.5 more yards/attempt (8.0 to 6.5), and way more big plays (20+ yards).

Dalton has more touchdowns, and that's it. Cam is a gunslinger, and Dalton is a game manager.

The only real argument Dalton has is wins and losses. Which has a lot more to do with the fact that the Bengals defense has allowed almost 100 points less than the Carolina D than anything offensively (Cinci has 11 more points than Carolina on the season, and the Panthers are 5th in the NFL in total offense).

I'd take Green way before Dalton, and Cam before both of them for ROY at this point.
How about the # of turnovers Cam has?
How about the fact that he has more interceptions than passing touchdowns?

Doubt a QB has ever won ROY with more interceptions than passing touchdowns.
Nov 25, 2011 11:03am
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Nov 25, 2011 11:16 AM
Cam has:
21 total tds
19 total turnovers.
and his team is 2-8 (tied for 2nd worst record in the NFL)

I think he is regressing, and I just dont see him winning it.


check that, i could actually see him winning it because while his numbers are nothing special, neither are any other rookies. Dalton has basically the same numbers (td/turnover wise) and his team has the better record.

Even though they would never give it to the kicker, Dan Bailey deserves it. Only a rookie and is having a record setting season for a kicker. One of the biggest struggles for the Cowboys the past few years have been the kicking game.

Heres to Murray to continue having a great year and winning it.
Nov 25, 2011 11:16am