Should you have to pass a test to vote?

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Nov 23, 2011 2:06 PM
sleeper;984987 wrote:Do you really want to live in a country where dumb people make decisions?

99.99% of the people on this site think you're an ignorant moron. Should you be denied the right to vote?
gut;985151 wrote:Really, you have to pass a written and driving test to get your license, but you don't even have to be able to read to vote.
You SHOULD have to take a test before you bring a kid into the world. I'm still waiting for that test. Solve our overpopulation problem right away.
Nov 23, 2011 2:06pm
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Nov 23, 2011 2:13 PM
GoPens;985171 wrote:99.99% of the people on this site think you're an ignorant moron. Should you be denied the right to vote?
I AM the .01%
Nov 23, 2011 2:13pm
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Nov 23, 2011 2:14 PM
It's not illegal to be stupid. If it was, everyone who voted for Obama would be in jail.
Nov 23, 2011 2:14pm
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Nov 23, 2011 2:19 PM
GoPens;985171 wrote:You SHOULD have to take a test before you bring a kid into the world. I'm still waiting for that test. Solve our overpopulation problem right away.
Actually, GDP growth has been pretty convincingly shown to be linked with population growth (particularly of the working age segment of population). So if your goal is to kill economic growth, then your solution is an excellent one. And to the inevitable response I say "the world needs ditch diggers, too". Besides, someone has to grow-up to be the OWS protestor of tomorrow.
Nov 23, 2011 2:19pm
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Nov 23, 2011 2:20 PM
Con_Alma;985169 wrote:Those requirements are to purchase and register a new gun. Isn't it legal to buy a gun from your neighbor and own it? Does it then have to be registered to you?

Maybe LJ can answer my questions.
Pretty sure it's illegal to own an unregistered gun.
Nov 23, 2011 2:20pm
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Nov 23, 2011 2:21 PM
gut;985190 wrote:Actually, GDP growth has been pretty convincingly shown to be linked with population growth (particularly of the working age segment of population). So if your goal is to kill economic growth, then your solution is an excellent one. And to the inevitable response I say "the world needs ditch diggers, too". Besides, someone has to grow-up to be the OWS protestor of tomorrow.
I'd say GDP/Capita is a lot more important than overall GDP.
Nov 23, 2011 2:21pm
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Nov 23, 2011 2:24 PM
gut;985192 wrote:Pretty sure it's illegal to own an unregistered gun.
Thanks.
Nov 23, 2011 2:24pm
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Nov 23, 2011 2:26 PM
ernest_t_bass;985193 wrote:I'd say GDP/Capita is a lot more important than overall GDP.
And what do you think happens with a shrinking workforce? The precise issue is as your retired population increases you need the workforce to increase to support the same GDP/capita (non-workers don't earn and don't produce). Even if replacement were 1:1 you'd still have contraction with people living longer.
Nov 23, 2011 2:26pm
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Nov 23, 2011 2:51 PM
gut;985192 wrote:Pretty sure it's illegal to own an unregistered gun.
It is completely legal to own unregistered handguns, rifles, and shotguns in Ohio.
Nov 23, 2011 2:51pm
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Nov 23, 2011 4:05 PM
sleeper;985012 wrote:So you prefer to have dumb people have a say in shaping America? I just want to protect this country from the idiots pushing for legislation that is detrimental to this country in the long run. If you can't locate Oklahoma on a map, then you shouldn't be voting. If you don't know what diminishing returns are, you shouldn't be voting. If you can't balance a checkbook, you shouldn't be voting. If you can't name the amendment that protects the right to bear arms, you shouldn't be voting.

That's all I'm trying to say.
Agreed. Why someone who can't graduate high school should be able to vote, usually for someone who is going to offer more welfare and medicare, is stupid.
Nov 23, 2011 4:05pm
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Nov 23, 2011 4:32 PM
I voted for Cletus.
Nov 23, 2011 4:32pm
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Nov 23, 2011 4:55 PM
I did not vote in the poll because I have not passed the test yet.
Nov 23, 2011 4:55pm
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Nov 23, 2011 5:06 PM
If you graduated from high school and you think that you should have to pass someone's arbitrary exam to have the right to vote, you should have every one of your diplomas stripped from your possession and your government class instructor hung by his thumbs.
IMHO;)
Nov 23, 2011 5:06pm
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Nov 23, 2011 5:10 PM
I would be more in favor of having to pass a test to have kids.
Nov 23, 2011 5:10pm
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redstreak one

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Nov 23, 2011 5:50 PM
No, the educated elite in Washington just show how much intelligence is in running a country. However, if they do start this, I want to be one of those who grade them! lol
Nov 23, 2011 5:50pm
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Nov 23, 2011 5:55 PM
No.
Nov 23, 2011 5:55pm
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Nov 23, 2011 6:26 PM
It's funny how people keep wanting to limit other people's ability to vote.

That's not a democracy. If you don't want them to vote for your candidates' opponents, try this: convince them otherwise.
Nov 23, 2011 6:26pm
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Nov 23, 2011 6:40 PM
This is why there should be a test:

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Nov 23, 2011 6:40pm
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I Am Ahab

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Nov 23, 2011 7:11 PM
Idk if you should have to pass a test but I think you have the responsibility to be an informed voter. Ive only voted once bc I don't consider myself informed. I don't keep up on the political "scene" as intently as I feel I should in order to vote. So I don't. Maybe someday that will change.

I dont think it would be a bad idea to have to know some civics and current events to have to vote. Even if they sent registered voters some literature and info. on the candidates, races, etc. and you had to sign off saying you had read the shit.
Nov 23, 2011 7:11pm
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Nov 23, 2011 8:08 PM
I cant believe people who graduate from OSU are allowed even near a voting booth.
Nov 23, 2011 8:08pm
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Nov 23, 2011 9:56 PM
gut;985190 wrote:Actually, GDP growth has been pretty convincingly shown to be linked with population growth (particularly of the working age segment of population). So if your goal is to kill economic growth, then your solution is an excellent one. And to the inevitable response I say "the world needs ditch diggers, too". Besides, someone has to grow-up to be the OWS protestor of tomorrow.
My point was more in line with ignorant parents having kids they don't give a shit about and have no interest in raising, but thanks for the economics lesson.
Nov 23, 2011 9:56pm
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Nov 24, 2011 1:12 AM
If you fail the test and can't vote as a result does this also mean you cannot pay taxes?

If the answer is yes, I need somebody to tell me where I can take this test. I see a massive tax cut coming my way:D
Nov 24, 2011 1:12am
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Nov 24, 2011 9:00 AM
If we are actually going to discuss criteria for voting rights, perhaps it's not education that should determine one's right to vote, but how much you contribute to society/government. One of the main beotches of the founders was that they were being taxed without representation....maybe the converse is true....that if you are not paying any taxes, you shouldn't have any representation. In other words, if you don't pay taxes, and live off the dole (other people's taxes) you don't get to vote. You shouldn't get to vote on the government spending other people's money. You shouldn't get to vote on what you are entitled to if you haven't contributed. All one would need to vote would be last years 1040 showing that you paid income tax.

Some exceptions can be made. Seniors over 65 can 'vest' their voting rights with 25+ years of productive contributions. Students and temporary economic hardship exceptions could be granted voting rights for a short strictly defined period.
Nov 24, 2011 9:00am
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Nov 24, 2011 9:21 AM
The right to choose your representation isn't something that is earned.
Nov 24, 2011 9:21am
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Nov 24, 2011 9:36 AM
HitsRus;985840 wrote:If we are actually going to discuss criteria for voting rights, perhaps it's not education that should determine one's right to vote, but how much you contribute to society/government. One of the main beotches of the founders was that they were being taxed without representation....maybe the converse is true....that if you are not paying any taxes, you shouldn't have any representation. In other words, if you don't pay taxes, and live off the dole (other people's taxes) you don't get to vote. You shouldn't get to vote on the government spending other people's money. You shouldn't get to vote on what you are entitled to if you haven't contributed. All one would need to vote would be last years 1040 showing that you paid income tax.

Some exceptions can be made. Seniors over 65 can 'vest' their voting rights with 25+ years of productive contributions. Students and temporary economic hardship exceptions could be granted voting rights for a short strictly defined period.
While you're at it... lets make it so only white land owners can vote.

If you're post is serious then I honestly am shocked. Talk about a step backwards; that would truly create a system in which the haves would continue to pull away from the have-nots even faster than they are now.

What I find interesting is learning about all of the tax code changes over the 20 years and seeing what's happened with it and how it has affected our society.
Nov 24, 2011 9:36am