Archive Cleveland Indians Hot Stove---2011-2012

hoops23

Posts: 15,696

Jan 9, 2012 1:32am

OQB;1044336 wrote:STO is playing the 2011 season in review tonight...pretty good so far.

[SP]It doesn't end well[/SP]

TBone14

Posts: 6,383

Jan 9, 2012 3:13pm

Huge move announced by Tribe Insider on Twitter:

tribeinsider Cleveland Indians

Indians invite LHP Chris Seddon to major league camp. Previous big league experience with the Marlins (2007) and Mariners (2010).

Print the AL Central Championship T-Shirts now.

Mulva

Posts: 13,650

Jan 9, 2012 5:16pm

Any word on when Seddon jerseys become available through Indians team shops?

HitsRus

Posts: 9,206

Jan 10, 2012 2:05pm

Doesn't anybody who hits from the right side want to play for us?

Heretic

Posts: 18,820

Jan 10, 2012 2:07pm

hoops23;1044575 wrote:[SP]It doesn't end well[/SP]

LOL. Reps.

TBone14

Posts: 6,383

Jan 12, 2012 3:45pm

Hey...more big news coming out. Indians are extending an invite to RHP Chris Ray for Spring Training.

Putting together the greatest assortment of washed up rag arms to ever don the same uniform.

IggyPride00

Posts: 6,482

Jan 12, 2012 4:34pm

[h=1]Indians ask owners for payroll space to pursue Carlos Pena[/h]

Carlos Pena is one of the better free agents still available and Paul Hoynes of the Cleveland Plain Dealer reports that the Indians are interested in the 33-year-old first baseman.

http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/01/12/indians-ask-ownership-for-payroll-space-to-pursue-carlos-pena/related/

Another left handed bat?

I like that it at least has some pop, but this line-up desperately needs someone who can hit with power from the right side.

grodt

Posts: 1,588

Jan 12, 2012 4:57pm

I'm not sure it matters much. Pop is pop and we need some pop (Pena 28 HRs last two years). Pena hits RHP much better than LHP (.252/.370/.513 vs .210/.309/.426) Now roughly one quarter of a teams ABs in a season are against lefties. That translates to about 122 games. So you have 122 games of Pena's power and in the other 40 you move Santana to 1B (or Duncan/LaPorta/Whoever) and have Marson catch (.793 OPS vs LHP in 2011).

Crimson streak

Posts: 9,002

Jan 12, 2012 8:07pm

He would be a great pick up. He has major power. I also see choo having a bounce back year to help out

hoops23

Posts: 15,696

Jan 12, 2012 8:27pm

Yeah, I think Choo bounces back. Last season was a fluke year for him IMO and the injuries didn't help. His track record is pretty good, so he gets the benefit of the doubt..

I don't know whether or not to expect the same production from Druby though. If he actually turns into a 20+ homer SS while hitting .270+ and driving in around 80+ RBI, that will only bolster our line-up.

I am a little intrigued by Carlos Pena, regardless of which hand he pisses with.

wes_mantooth

Posts: 17,977

Jan 12, 2012 8:31pm

Can't wait for the Tribe to make a halfass offer to Pena and then he signs somewhere else. "We tried...."

hoops23

Posts: 15,696

Jan 12, 2012 8:39pm

wes_mantooth;1050121 wrote:Can't wait for the Tribe to make a halfass offer to Pena and then he signs somewhere else. "We tried...."

Have you seen "Moneyball"?

I laughed when Mark Shapiro continually asked Billy Beane in the movie if he could "afford" Ricardo Rincon from the Indians.. Shapiro took a couple of shots at Oaklands small payroll... I know back then the Tribe was spending quite a bit more, but looking back at it, it made me weep.

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BR1986FB

Posts: 24,104

Jan 12, 2012 8:41pm

wes_mantooth;1050121 wrote:Can't wait for the Tribe to make a halfass offer to Pena and then he signs somewhere else. "We tried...."

Opening the door for Austin Kearns to rise from the ashes like a phoenix and save the season!!!!

grodt

Posts: 1,588

Jan 12, 2012 9:47pm

hoops23;1050133 wrote:Have you seen "Moneyball"?

I laughed when Mark Shapiro continually asked Billy Beane in the movie if he could "afford" Ricardo Rincon from the Indians.. Shapiro took a couple of shots at Oaklands small payroll... I know back then the Tribe was spending quite a bit more, but looking back at it, it made me weep.

I'm pretty sure Moneyball took some liberties with Shapiro.

I really prefer Pena over their alleged fallback, Kotchman.

wes_mantooth

Posts: 17,977

Jan 12, 2012 9:55pm

hoops23;1050133 wrote:Have you seen "Moneyball"?

I laughed when Mark Shapiro continually asked Billy Beane in the movie if he could "afford" Ricardo Rincon from the Indians.. Shapiro took a couple of shots at Oaklands small payroll... I know back then the Tribe was spending quite a bit more, but looking back at it, it made me weep.

yeah, me and my kid def chuckled at the Shapiro part of that movie.

wes_mantooth

Posts: 17,977

Jan 12, 2012 9:55pm

BR1986FB;1050136 wrote:Opening the door for Austin Kearns to rise from the ashes like a phoenix and save the season!!!!

lol...probably.

royal_k

Posts: 4,423

Jan 13, 2012 11:14am

I don't know guys.....It doesn't look like they will land the RH bat we all want, unless they pull off a trade.

But, I would definitely take Pena.

Wooball

Posts: 1,325

Jan 13, 2012 11:58am

IF, and that's a big IF, they add Carlos Pena I would be pretty happy. I know this team needs a RH bat, but there are guys you can bring in that can platoon and hit LH pitching. It would be ideal to bring in a big RH stick, but I'd be OK with a guy like Pena that has hit in the middle of orders for good teams and has a track record of 25+ HR and 80+ RBI. I know his average has been pretty garbage, but if we can bench him against most lefties I think we would like the production coming from 1B. If that bring in Duncan, I wouldn't be surprised to see a smaller signing soon after of a platoon OF to play against lefties.

HitsRus

Posts: 9,206

Jan 13, 2012 2:18pm

I'm OK with Pena, but we really need a right handed bat. It was much too easy for the Kitties to truck out their LH match up bull pen guys and shut us down. No way we will win our division without some power from the Right side. We'd better pray that the light bulb goes on in La Porta's head so that there will be fire in his bat.

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BR1986FB

Posts: 24,104

Jan 13, 2012 2:27pm

$30-50 million? Yeah, we'll be players in that bidding war...:rolleyes:

http://networkedblogs.com/sFfh9

royal_k

Posts: 4,423

Jan 13, 2012 2:30pm

BR1986FB;1051170 wrote:$30-50 million? Yeah, we'll be players in that bidding war...:rolleyes:

http://networkedblogs.com/sFfh9

This is the guy I brought up a couple months back. He would be an immediate impact player. Buuuuuut this is the Tribe we're talking about.

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Al Bundy

Posts: 4,180

Jan 13, 2012 2:43pm

Once upon a time, the tribe had an owner who was willing to pay a salaray to field a good team. http://www.stlsports.com/articles/ja.mlbsalaries.html

wildcats20

Posts: 27,794

Jan 13, 2012 2:50pm

Thoughts on Manny?

BHOOLZ Bruce Hooley

Also, Manny wants a comeback. Tribe needs RH hitter. Is all forgiven, Cleveland? espncleveland.com WKNR 850 AM

royal_k

Posts: 4,423

Jan 13, 2012 2:51pm

Al Bundy;1051203 wrote:Once upon a time, the tribe had an owner who was willing to pay a salaray to field a good team. http://www.stlsports.com/articles/ja.mlbsalaries.html

it was the perfect storm....the Browns being moved by the backstabber, a shiny new stadium, and an owner with deep pockets.

lhslep134

Posts: 9,774

Jan 13, 2012 2:52pm

wildcats20;1051217 wrote:Thoughts on Manny?

Doesn't he have to sit out 50 games?