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Oct 20, 2011 12:49 PM
Laley23;939171 wrote:Um, in your first scenario the meter had expired. Law was broken. Im saying, if you just walked by and put money in the meters, who is going to stop you? If a PA gonna run after you walking down the street? Like I said, they can make it illegal, but it is very unenforceable. If anyone is dumb enough to try and make a profit than fine. Im not saying ALL scenarios are unenforceable, but most are. Any good lawyer is going to get a person off in court. Hell, I would be shocked if anyone was ever arrested for it. Just walk away, cause 99% of policemen are not going to arrest anyone for putting money in the meter.

Regarding the first scenario, THE POINT is that scenario arose enough times for certain cities to make a law about feeding someone else's meter.


Regarding the second scenario, that has already happened too.


You'd be shocked if anyone was ever arrested for it?

http://kezi.com/news/local/158928

http://articles.latimes.com/1996-11-10/news/mn-63253_1_parking-meters



"Parking fairies". Another reason a city might want to enact such an ordinance.

http://linnypacillo.blogspot.com/2006/11/political-gateway.html
Oct 20, 2011 12:49pm
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Oct 20, 2011 12:52 PM
I Wear Pants;939046 wrote:Personal rule. That's fine.

But if you pretend it's the law or something that's bull****.

And SVF, I don't understand why you'd say that. Are you disagreeing with me and saying that it is in fact a law that you have to finish writing a ticket once you've started it? Because that's simply untrue. Of course that wouldn't be a good defense in court as it isn't even a defense. But what I said was true.
It's often the city parking authority policy. Especially when they write electronic tickets that's how the system is set up.

What was it you said that was true? Your post is a little hard to follow.
Oct 20, 2011 12:52pm
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Oct 20, 2011 1:21 PM
That "I have to finish the ticked once I've started it" isn't a law. That's true.
Oct 20, 2011 1:21pm
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Oct 20, 2011 1:28 PM
Im pretty sure I said that having this as a law is fine, but its largely unenforceable. So please stop comparing it to other laws like littering, speeding, etc. That is a waste of time. Im not saying any law should be legal. But just like littering, this law is very tough to enforce. I see people in Chicago putting money in meters all the time. Same as I see people littering all the time. Its tough to enforce, and thus I think its a waste of time and money.
Oct 20, 2011 1:28pm
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Oct 20, 2011 1:29 PM
I Wear Pants;939704 wrote:That "I have to finish the ticked once I've started it" isn't a law. That's true.
I never sad it was a law.

But it's a defacto law if that's the PA's policy and if you try to drive off once they begin issuing the ticket you will be arrested.

What was your point with that statement anyway?
Oct 20, 2011 1:29pm
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Oct 20, 2011 1:31 PM
Laley23;939709 wrote:Im pretty sure I said that having this as a law is fine, but its largely unenforceable. So please stop comparing it to other laws like littering, speeding, etc. That is a waste of time. Im not saying any law should be legal. But just like littering, this law is very tough to enforce. I see people in Chicago putting money in meters all the time. Same as I see people littering all the time. Its tough to enforce, and thus I think its a waste of time and money.
The only problem is that's all you've provided here is your opinion. Who cares what you think? Certainly not the parking authority who issues tickets.
Oct 20, 2011 1:31pm
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Oct 20, 2011 1:32 PM
Laley23;939709 wrote:Im pretty sure I said that having this as a law is fine, but its largely unenforceable. So please stop comparing it to other laws like littering, speeding, etc. That is a waste of time. Im not saying any law should be legal. But just like littering, this law is very tough to enforce. I see people in Chicago putting money in meters all the time. Same as I see people littering all the time. Its tough to enforce, and thus I think its a waste of time and money.
So are you saying it should be a law, but no enforcement? :confused: I'm still not clear on what your point is.
Oct 20, 2011 1:32pm
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Oct 20, 2011 1:38 PM
georgemc80;936714 wrote:Similar issue, although I didn't believe it...

I put a quarter in a meter for a stranger just before it expired and the meter maid told me she could write me a ticket and that I was not allowed to that. I laughed and walked off....

If she wasn't standing there watching it count down, I wouldn't have thought twice about it.

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Oct 20, 2011 1:38pm
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Oct 20, 2011 1:45 PM
WebFire;939714 wrote:So are you saying it should be a law, but no enforcement? :confused: I'm still not clear on what your point is.
He pretty much just said that having parking meter laws AND littering laws are a waste of time.

I'm with you - he has no point. Except that he doesn't like it.
Oct 20, 2011 1:45pm
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Oct 20, 2011 2:39 PM
No I really never did have a point, lol. I was just pointing out how tough it is to enforce the law that was being discussed. I never wanted to get into the argument, because I dont much care if it is a law or not. I just think its a waste of time and money for the city to go after anything but expired meters.
Oct 20, 2011 2:39pm
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Oct 20, 2011 8:56 PM
Laley23;939755 wrote:No I really never did have a point, lol. I was just pointing out how tough it is to enforce the law that was being discussed. I never wanted to get into the argument, because I dont much care if it is a law or not. I just think its a waste of time and money for the city to go after anything but expired meters.

Actually, enforcing against the improper usage of the parking meters has a positive effect on the municipal cash flow.
Oct 20, 2011 8:56pm
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Oct 20, 2011 9:00 PM
Is it illegal to flash my lights to warn a driver of deer up ahead, and to slow down?
Is it illegal to flash my lights to warn a driver of a cop up ahead, and to slow down?
Is it illegal to flash my lights to warn a driver of a crash up ahead, and to slow down?

Whatever the answer is, it should be the same for all the above.
Oct 20, 2011 9:00pm