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pooter

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Oct 19, 2011 1:46 AM
ts1227;938107 wrote:That's all fine and dandy, but until something concrete comes out at Struthers, it's just an assumption based on your link from his EL stint
I only spoke of the stuff missing from EL, as shape was referring to. None of which is rumor ridden and all true. I am the one who help raise the cash to purchase the stuff missing from EL. I can also go into great detail how cash was raised and never turned in as well, if shape would like. I'm curious to see how someone like shape has any clue of stuff being said about Asher in EL is true or not, being that he's never been to one booster meeting, fund raiser or even has a list of items that walked off with Asher.

Here's a heads up to all that purchases a car from him. Your phone number, address, year, make of car AND Social is all recorded in a notebook that has been left on his desk many times without anyone being around...
Oct 18, 2011 9:46pm
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Oct 19, 2011 3:51 AM
pooter;938137 wrote:I only spoke of the stuff missing from EL, as shape was referring to. None of which is rumor ridden and all true. I am the one who help raise the cash to purchase the stuff missing from EL. I can also go into great detail how cash was raised and never turned in as well, if shape would like. I'm curious to see how someone like shape has any clue of stuff being said about Asher in EL is true or not, being that he's never been to one booster meeting, fund raiser or even has a list of items that walked off with Asher.

Here's a heads up to all that purchases a car from him. Your phone number, address, year, make of car AND Social is all recorded in a notebook that has been left on his desk many times without anyone being around...

Wow dude you really don't like him at that much. And like i said if this is indeed all true this guy "NOW IN MY OWN OPINION" is a real jerk. But the article does make you think dont it?
Oct 18, 2011 11:51pm
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Oct 19, 2011 6:26 AM
This wasn't a thread to talk bad about coach Asher. It was a thread to see what everyone thought the problem is right now with STRUTHERS football. No offense, but I know EL fans are bitter, but this is not the place for it. Hope the rumors aren't true. But they arent there for no reason. Go cats. Get the w this week.
Oct 19, 2011 2:26am
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pooter

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Oct 19, 2011 12:06 PM
I hate the things that make me dislike him, like taking hard earned money from programs/kids, no matter what form it is. Someone has to repurchase stuff to replace items, that could've been spent on other needed things. I only 2 types of people thieves and liars, if anyone falls into those categories well.....

If I seem bitter, it's not because he left. I have no hard feelings about anyone trying to better themselves in life, in fact I told him he should go to Struthers when he asked me. It's when you spit in my face after the fact, I have the problem with. When Mark was here I made sure he got everything he needed to help him coach and make things easier. I even made a few enemies in doing so. Then he pulled his stunt by taking them things that were bought for the program with program monies. That's why I'm bitter....
Oct 19, 2011 8:06am
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pooter

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Oct 19, 2011 12:08 PM
reddevil90;938288 wrote:Wow dude you really don't like him at that much. And like i said if this is indeed all true this guy "NOW IN MY OWN OPINION" is a real jerk. But the article does make you think dont it?
Spread All Day;938331 wrote:This wasn't a thread to talk bad about coach Asher. It was a thread to see what everyone thought the problem is right now with STRUTHERS football. No offense, but I know EL fans are bitter, but this is not the place for it. Hope the rumors aren't true. But they arent there for no reason. Go cats. Get the w this week.
I hate the things that make me dislike him, like taking hard earned money from programs/kids, no matter what form it is. Someone has to repurchase stuff to replace items, that could've been spent on other needed things. I only hate 2 types of people thieves and liars, if anyone falls into those categories well.....

If I seem bitter, it's not because he left. I have no hard feelings about anyone trying to better themselves in life, in fact I told him he should go to Struthers when he asked me. It's when you spit in my face after the fact, I have the problem with. When Mark was here I made sure he got everything he needed to help him coach and make things easier. I even made a few enemies in doing so. Then he pulled his stunt by taking them things that were bought for the program with program monies. That's why I'm bitter....
Oct 19, 2011 8:08am
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BTrev

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Oct 19, 2011 6:54 PM
Spread All Day;938331 wrote:This wasn't a thread to talk bad about coach Asher. It was a thread to see what everyone thought the problem is right now with STRUTHERS football. No offense, but I know EL fans are bitter, but this is not the place for it. Hope the rumors aren't true. But they arent there for no reason. Go cats. Get the w this week.
Well said...

I just said that if Asher gets fired, it'll be because of his, and more importantly his team's, actions on and off the field. I didn't hire him, Carden didn't hire him, the Gridiron Club didn't hire him... the BOE did. It's their decision whether or not we need a new coach. If he stays, he'll have my support. If he leaves, good luck to him. I'm not hating on the guy... I've never even met him... yet.

It may not be time to send Asher packing, but it's definitely past the time to hit the panic button. From listening to him talk, I can honestly say that I think he does want to turn things around. He does want to do right by the kids. It'll take time though. As the saying goes, Rome wasn't built in a day.

Unfortunately, they'll need to do some heavy damage control over the offseason and possibly even into next year.

And I can't really say Asher was stupid for firing Nagle. I probably would've done the same, if I were in his shoes, given the situation.

As for the future of the team...

Who knows? I do think getting rid of open enrollment is a good idea. Most of the OE kids don't play sports, and they're not exactly the best influence either.

I'll never stop supporting Struthers. Never....

I know the injuries have caused problems, and the flu has been going around too. Disciplinary concerns are a problem too.

Still, they have a lot to play for. A conference championship. the first nonlosing season since 2003, the first win over Hubbard in over a decade, the Seniors' last home game, and a hope for a winning season.

:/
Oct 19, 2011 2:54pm
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innoshape

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Oct 19, 2011 7:18 PM
Pooter said:
"Shape, there is much more and if you would like to meet me in your coaches office, along with anyone else including Mark Asher, his attorney, and anyone else you'd like to invite let me know."

"I'm curious to see how someone like shape has any clue of stuff being said about Asher in EL is true or not, being that he's never been to one booster meeting, fund raiser or even has a list of items that walked off with Asher."

Pooter: I thought this matter died, but the dead horse keeps gettin kicked. I would be happy to meet you in person for a civil discussion in the wrestling coaches office sometime and explain why I posted the link to the newspaper article concerning Coach Dave Riggs at Perry. Sign you true name to your post and we will talk.
Here, I will go first- John Drumm
Oct 19, 2011 3:18pm
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pooter

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Oct 19, 2011 7:32 PM
innoshape;938817 wrote:Pooter said:
"Shape, there is much more and if you would like to meet me in your coaches office, along with anyone else including Mark Asher, his attorney, and anyone else you'd like to invite let me know."

"I'm curious to see how someone like shape has any clue of stuff being said about Asher in EL is true or not, being that he's never been to one booster meeting, fund raiser or even has a list of items that walked off with Asher."

Pooter: I thought this matter died, but the dead horse keeps gettin kicked. I would be happy to meet you in person for a civil discussion in the wrestling coaches office sometime and explain why I posted the link to the newspaper article concerning Coach Dave Riggs at Perry. Sign you true name to your post and we will talk.
Here, I will go first- John Drumm
Actually John,

I've been meaning to stop by your office, I have some business outside of football to discuss and Mark knows who I am.
Oct 19, 2011 3:32pm
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BTrev

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Oct 19, 2011 8:27 PM
^^^

stucco?
Oct 19, 2011 4:27pm
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pooter

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Oct 20, 2011 12:57 AM
BTrev;938896 wrote:^^^

stucco?


lucky guess
Oct 19, 2011 8:57pm
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BTrev

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Oct 20, 2011 2:52 AM
hahaha
Oct 19, 2011 10:52pm
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southbender12

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Oct 20, 2011 6:39 PM
you hired a used car salesmen and that is exactly what you got. you are suppose to hire a man that you want to lead young student-athletes and teach them how to be men. I don't know if there is any truth to rumors but his behavior is enough to axe him.
you should of gotten your last coach better assistants and we wouldn't even be having this conversation. I don't know much but I do know that I wouldn't send my son to play for Asher.

If your a fan of his you better enjoy the next two weeks because that will be the last time he is on the sidelines as a coach at Struthers.
Oct 20, 2011 2:39pm
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Oct 20, 2011 7:07 PM
southbender12;939753 wrote:you hired a used car salesmen and that is exactly what you got. you are suppose to hire a man that you want to lead young student-athletes and teach them how to be men. I don't know if there is any truth to rumors but his behavior is enough to axe him.
you should of gotten your last coach better assistants and we wouldn't even be having this conversation. I don't know much but I do know that I wouldn't send my son to play for Asher.

If your a fan of his you better enjoy the next two weeks because that will be the last time he is on the sidelines as a coach at Struthers.
The head coach picks his assistants. So that didn't make too much sense to me. Stop talking about the last coach, that's old news, we all know he was terrible. Drop it.
Oct 20, 2011 3:07pm
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Oct 20, 2011 8:28 PM
Spread All Day;939772 wrote:The head coach picks his assistants. So that didn't make too much sense to me. Stop talking about the last coach, that's old news, we all know he was terrible. Drop it.

I agree with Spread and that's not very often. But Dallas from what a lot of Struthers fans said was a great guy. Just not a good coach. And Coaches hire there own assistance. that was not a smart statement.
Oct 20, 2011 4:28pm
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southbender12

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Oct 21, 2011 11:27 AM
Spread...I talked more about the current coach then the previous coach. I have idea for you and your Struthers brothers...hire an outside third party to hire the next coach because if the last coach sucked and this coach sucks then your community is 0 for 2 on head coaches the last half decade.
Oct 21, 2011 7:27am
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Ohio

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Oct 21, 2011 8:18 PM
The board elects the head coach lol i agree tho they need something new
Oct 21, 2011 4:18pm
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omemorialhigh

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Oct 21, 2011 9:56 PM
so whats the bigger problem...bad coaching or bad kids?
Oct 21, 2011 5:56pm
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BTrev

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Oct 21, 2011 10:09 PM
southbender12;940539 wrote:Spread...I talked more about the current coach then the previous coach. I have idea for you and your Struthers brothers...hire an outside third party to hire the next coach because if the last coach sucked and this coach sucks then your community is 0 for 2 on head coaches the last half decade.
"I just said that if Asher gets fired, it'll be because of his, and more importantly his team's, actions on and off the field. I didn't hire him, Carden didn't hire him, the Gridiron Club didn't hire him... the BOE did. It's their decision whether or not we need a new coach..."

I hate having the last post on a page. It seems like no one ever sees it.

The last two coaches Struthers has had, have been outsiders. Neither have really worked out too well.

As I've previously said...

If Asher is the coach next year, I'll support him... just like I did when Saunders was the coach. If the BOE wants to move on, my vote would be for Eric Ungaro of Howland.

Beat Hubbard!
Oct 21, 2011 6:09pm
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BTrev

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Oct 21, 2011 10:21 PM
omemorialhigh;940941 wrote:so whats the bigger problem...bad coaching or bad kids?
Good question.

I would say that it's just that the kids don't care. Some of them do, and some of them don't. A lot of them don't want to put in the effort over the offseason though. They might have 4 guys benching over 300 pounds. Last year, they only had 3. My Senior year, we had close to 10.

Champions aren't born, they're made. And they're made in December and January, not September and October.
Oct 21, 2011 6:21pm
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Oct 22, 2011 2:28 AM
Gary Muntean is the answer at QB. Build the offense around him. Let Kimbrough return kicks and play S and WR, but Muntean is the man. I think #12 solidified the starting QB job tonight.

All in all, the Cats hung tough all night, without #77 and #44. Even after falling behind 14-0, they fought back to make it 14-13, but the PAT was blocked. Hubbard got a relatively quick TD on the ensuing drive. They wisely went for 2 and got it to make it a 2 possession game...

Something that I don't really understand.

1st and goal from the 7, down 22-13 with 5 minutes left. Incomplete pass on 1st down. Sacked back to the 13 on 2nd down. They threw a screen to Kunzer on 3rd down back to the 9. The FG on 4th down was blocked.

Why not put the pass in the endzone on 3rd down? I mean, that's almost like admitting defeat...

Stewart being out hurt the running game, as expected. The line had trouble handling the blitz at times too. The defense played hard. They gave up 2 big plays. A 41 yard TD run and a 34 yard TD run, both by Larry Scott... Scott played a hell of a game, BTW. They never gave up though. They fought hard, showed improvement, and kept it interesting...
Oct 21, 2011 10:28pm
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BigYtownRed

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Oct 22, 2011 1:46 PM
Sorry to hear that what sounded so promising for my St Ruther's brethern has turned sour so quickly. I really would like to see the Cats turn this thing around. The girls & boys hoops teams are strong again hopefully it will happen for the football team soon. The Cats football program reminds me of the Browns since Ricky McFadden & his crew graduated both are pretty much a non factor to opponents.

Come on Cats turn it around
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Oct 22, 2011 9:46am
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Oct 22, 2011 6:50 PM
Well, one week to make it happen. VS CAMPBELL. Words cannot describe how much the trophy misses its home at SHS
Oct 22, 2011 2:50pm
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Oct 22, 2011 6:57 PM
The trophy is quite happy right here where it belongs



IN CAMPBELL!!!!
Oct 22, 2011 2:57pm
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BTrev

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Oct 22, 2011 8:32 PM
Well said, Spread.
Oct 22, 2011 4:32pm
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Oct 22, 2011 8:35 PM
If you are a struthers fan and you are not excited about Gary Muntean at the QB position shame on you!!!!
Oct 22, 2011 4:35pm