sherm03;945737 wrote:I've reported it. Clearly they don't see it as being that big of an issue.

Jawbreaker;945741 wrote:Didn't VZW make that call? I thought Moto will allow them to be unlocked but it was up to the carrier to allow it.

sherm03;945744 wrote:It's a combination of both. Motorola has said they will unlock the bootloaders in the future, but have never really expanded on that since that announcement.

OneBuckeye;957344 wrote:So HTC announced the Rezound a dual1.5 720 pixel display beast with beats audio. It is to be released on nov 14th and the Nexus looks like it may not be released until after black friday! wtf.

Sherm has there been an official date on the rzr? What the review of the rzr compared to the bionic?

OneBuckeye;957352 wrote:http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19736_7-57318076-251/htc-rezound-vs-motorola-droid-razr-vs-samsung-galaxy-nexus/

Comparision of all three. The Rezound would be better if it wasn't 2x as thick as the razor with a smaller battery.

sherm03;957391 wrote:Compared to the Bionic, the RAZR is definitely the better device.

As far as the Rezound, I haven't seen one yet. But a co-worker of mine in New York saw it yesterday and said it's a nice phone. But it seems very bulky, and the Super AMOLED screen on the RAZR is much more appealing than the Rezound. So the Rezound will have the better processor, but the RAZR will look and feel better, and have better battery life.

OneBuckeye;957418 wrote:Agree I am not considering the rezound. Good concept, but the battery and screen and size make it a no deal for me. I think I want the Nexus, but I will probably go with the Razr becasue of release dates, as long as ICS gets on it asap and they unlock the bootloader...

Scarlet_Buckeye;957450 wrote:The biggest thing that the RAZR had going against it for me was that the original RAZR was literally one of the WORST devices ever. I had one, and so did a number of my friends, and I can't tell you how many complaints we all had re: dropped calls. The antenna (internal) on that device was HORRENDOUS.

wes_mantooth;957514 wrote:If the HTC phone turns out to be even spec wise, I will probably go with it....and ebay the headphones to recoup some of the money.


http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19736_7-57317733-251/htc-rezound-first-impressions-music-to-my-ears/

gut;957468 wrote:I will look at the Rezound as well. Not sure if I'm going to wait until (at least) Black Friday to see the Nexus.

Don't care if the Rezound is a few mm thicker - do we really need phones that can give us paper cuts? "Thin" is the most useless, non-value added feature out there. Credit to Apple for differentiating on something almost entirely meaningless.

OneBuckeye;957598 wrote:^ The battery is a big concern HTC is notorious for bad battery life and it has the smallest batter of the 3. I want to see the LCD vs OLED side by side, but from what i've read teh OLED is where its at. Won't it also help with battery life?

wes_mantooth;957622 wrote:I had the launch super amoled incredible.....the battery life is ****. Htc batteries are going to be the worst of the bunch

sherm03;957726 wrote:RAZR release is official: 11/11/11 at 11:11am.

gut;957747 wrote:We'll see. For my money, I only need to get 16-18 hours out of a battery, basically a day and charge overnight. For the average user it may be a bigger deal, but I'm pretty confident in the developer community getting a lot more out of that battery than stock (underclocking alone can yield 30-50% more battery life).

Probably what I will do is compare the RAZR and Rezound and pick one. Then if I'm not completely satisfied I'll return within the 14 days and grab the Nexus. The one thing the Nexus has going for it is the camera, but I'm pretty confident the RAZR and Rezound will be unlocked so the "developer" Nexus loses most of it's appeal soon enough.

Jawbreaker;957812 wrote:I don't see the VZW RAZR being unlocked unless Moto hands over the keys.

gut;957871 wrote:And I believe they will. Now, VZW has some say but Google will have some influence as well (seeing as they are buying Moto Mobility). With the RAZR being an iconic brand for Moto, I expect them to give it every chance to succeed, which means a strong developer community and extended end-of-life => i.e. unlocked.

Jawbreaker;957957 wrote:That goes both ways. VZW can have as much, if not more, influence than Google on what the end product will look like and how it will function. If it is going on their network, they end up calling the shots and there isn't much Motorola can do about that. They are in the business to sell phones and VZW is the means to the end. Also, VZW sees unlocked == unsecured, or at least that is what their PR says.

gut;957994 wrote:But besides having questionable legal justification to do so, the Sammie and HTC phones have been far easier to unlock. The Nexus will be unlocked. I'm not sure VZW can favor an OEM in such manner, honestly.