fish82;995130 wrote:"Chemical Weapons??" Seriously? You're in danger of a complete meltdown bro....I suggest you step away from the internetz for a few days.

It's banned in war.

I Wear Pants;995149 wrote:It's banned in war.

Its banned in war because of the high risk one side could mistake its use for a lethal chemical attack and retaliate with a lethal chemical response. Risking a major exchange of lethal chemical weapons.

Fair enough, but it is a chemical weapon.

Mustard Gas is a Chemical Weapon. Pepper spray is Franks Red Hot. You're coming unglued.

fish82;995180 wrote:Mustard Gas is a Chemical Weapon. Pepper spray is Franks Red Hot. You're coming unglued.

I bet I get charged with carrying a weapon if I try to take pepper spray onto a plane. I will not be so charged if I take hot sauce onto a plane.

I Wear Pants;995182 wrote:I bet I get charged with carrying a weapon if I try to take pepper spray onto a plane. I will not be so charged if I take hot sauce onto a plane.

Wrong again. They'll confiscate it the same as they would your bottle of Axe. You wouldn't be charged with anything.

fish82;995218 wrote:Wrong again. They'll confiscate it the same as they would your bottle of Axe. You wouldn't be charged with anything.

Bad example since a knife is a weapon and they will just confiscate it.

Allow me to change the scenario to "say I have pepper spray on a plane" I bet I would be charged with it. Much like I would for having a knife on a plane.

something the OWS people are forgetting, simply standing around and protesting, wont change anything. what other methods have they tried in order to change things? any support from law makers where they can enact change? any support for new candidates to help them get elected? anything at all other than standing around?

Glory Days;995431 wrote:something the OWS people are forgetting, simply standing around and protesting, wont change anything. what other methods have they tried in order to change things? any support from law makers where they can enact change? any support for new candidates to help them get elected? anything at all other than standing around?

Protests don't change anything?

I Wear Pants;995435 wrote:Protests don't change anything?

No. Especially ones where they have no idea what they are even standing for. The fact that they are occupying wall street instead of washington clearly shows they are morons.

iclfan2;995445 wrote:No. Especially ones where they have no idea what they are even standing for. The fact that they are occupying wall street instead of washington clearly shows they are morons.

Better tell the middle east their protests didn't change anything.

I Wear Pants;995467 wrote:Better tell the middle east their protests didn't change anything.

Hmmm. And they did not shit and piss in the park.

I Wear Pants;995467 wrote:Better tell the middle east their protests didn't change anything.

One we aren't in the middle east. Two, I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that those people actually knew what they were protesting. They probably still had rapes though, so OWS has that going for them. You can talk shit about the tea party all you want but I'd be willing to bed none of that ridiculous shit went on there.

majorspark;995568 wrote:Hmmm. And they did not shit and piss in the park.

Indeed they were too busy getting mowed over by government vehicles. And burning down buildings.

Maybe we should start doing that.

iclfan2;995592 wrote:One we aren't in the middle east. Two, I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that those people actually knew what they were protesting. They probably still had rapes though, so OWS has that going for them. You can talk shit about the tea party all you want but I'd be willing to bed none of that ridiculous shit went on there.

And I can also say that the Tea Party didn't accomplish anything. What has the Tea Party changed?

I Wear Pants;995633 wrote:And I can also say that the Tea Party didn't accomplish anything. What has the Tea Party changed?

You serious? LOL

sleeper;995640 wrote:You serious? LOL

Yes. What have they changed besides the letter next to some (a lot) of people's names in Congress? I have not been impacted by the Tea Party in my day to day. Also true of OWS right now I guess though.

I Wear Pants;995629 wrote:Indeed they were too busy getting mowed over by government vehicles. And burning down buildings.

Maybe we should start doing that.

My comment was tongue and cheeek.

Reguarding protesting. Grabbing some signs and yelling hey hey ho ho "xyz" has got to go on the street corner does nothing. A protest is a political act. It needs solid leadership, it should have a clear message, it must win popular support, and most importantly it must be able create a funtioning political body to actively change or replace the current government.

The OWS movement has fallen flat on its face. Any protest is going to attract malcontents but the lack of leadership and solid backing allowed the lowest of the low to be the face of the movement. Choosing "occupy" as a term to define the movement was idiotic. It has a negative connotation. It implies force and is the antithesis of liberty.

OWS blames the media. You overcome the media and appeal to the people. You mention the Middle East. They were competing against state run media and internet/cellphone blackouts. But in the end protesting and running amok in the streets did not cut it. It took more.

Tunisia - The protest movement gained enough popular and political support to get change in government
Libya - Popular support was split. They had oil and a legitimate political body took shape and they gained the support of NATO. Even so it still took a bloody civil war.
Egypt - Who knows? Replace a dictator with a military council? The protest movement in Egypt has yet create a powerful political body to bring about a real change in their government.
Bahrain - At this point. Fail
Syria - Quasi civil war. The protesters have only been able to get localized support and some army defections from those areas.

Lol, Egypt didn't change anything.

I Wear Pants;995820 wrote:Lol, Egypt didn't change anything.

Not yet.

Getting rid of a tyrannical dictator= changing nothing.

I Wear Pants;995883 wrote:Getting rid of a tyrannical dictator= changing nothing.

-Tyranical dictator + military rule = changing nothing

JL would love the Occupy crowds.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njG7p6CSbCU

majorspark;995932 wrote:-Tyranical dictator + military rule = changing nothing

Tell me when the military starts acting like a dictatorship then you'll have something.

I Wear Pants;995990 wrote:Tell me when the military starts acting like a dictatorship then you'll have something.

Lets see... They are unelected and can rule by decree. I might have something here.