thedynasty1998 wrote: Amazes me that there is nothing more important for Congress to discuss.

Does it? College football is a multimillion dollar industry. Of course there are MORE important things to discuss, I don't disagree, but don't take away the importance of a multimillion dollar industry.

Jawbreaker wrote: What does the NCAA have to do with the current D-1A postseason?

Who gets the money for the games played in the postseason?

lhslep134 wrote:

thedynasty1998 wrote: Amazes me that there is nothing more important for Congress to discuss.

Does it? College football is a multimillion dollar industry. Of course there are MORE important things to discuss, I don't disagree, but don't take away the importance of a multimillion dollar industry.

Especially one that is "tax-exempt" because it is "educational".

ytownfootball wrote:
That's why they're JUST GOING TO FORCE A NAME CHANGE!

Umm, nobody actually think Congress is going to change anything. This happens after every season and every season the BCS continues to survive. Are you the BCS Executive Director by chance?

Some of us are just pointing out that there is a problem that needs to be fixed.

Turf Warden wrote: Ladies and gentlemen...your tax dollars at work!

Yeah, it is a good thing that the NCAA pays all those taxes on the hundreds of millions of dollars they generate each year ...... oh wait.

jordo212000 wrote:

ytownfootball wrote:
That's why they're JUST GOING TO FORCE A NAME CHANGE!

Umm, nobody actually think Congress is going to change anything. This happens after every season and every season the BCS continues to survive. Are you the BCS Executive Director by chance?

Some of us are just pointing out that there is a problem that needs to be fixed.

Chances are that he isn't...but would it surprise you if the BCS executive director was employing thousands of minions to go on to college football forums and spread propaganda for the BCS system? Its not like they don't have the money to do it...

enigmaax wrote:
This is exactly what it all comes down to. I'm sure they'd like it to be the catalyst for a system overhaul, but once they stop calling it a championship game, Congress is out of the picture and we go back to the same old system.

At this point I'd almost welcome the old system. Hopefully once it gets back to the old system, and then they will realize quickly that the old system sucks, and then because the BCS had been abolished, the only real solution (you know the solution every other sport employs...) is a playoff

trep14 wrote:
Chances are that he isn't...but would it surprise you if the BCS executive director was employing thousands of minions to go on to college football forums and spread propaganda for the BCS system? Its not like they don't have the money to do it...

Seems like they already have. You have a bunch of people on here doggedly defending the BCS, for what reason? I don't know. I love the token talking points that it seems like each person is contractually obligated to say.

jordo212000 wrote:

ytownfootball wrote:
That's why they're JUST GOING TO FORCE A NAME CHANGE!

Umm, nobody actually think Congress is going to change anything. This happens after every season and every season the BCS continues to survive. Are you the BCS Executive Director by chance?

Some of us are just pointing out that there is a problem that needs to be fixed.

Piont is jordo, everyone knows the system is flawed. BCS (shrugs shoulders) changes their "title game" to something else and moves on without skipping a beat. Nothing will change until the same amount of money can be generated and those that are getting it now continue to get the same or more. Power and where it lies will not change anytime soon. Just a fact.

trep14 wrote:

jordo212000 wrote:

ytownfootball wrote:
That's why they're JUST GOING TO FORCE A NAME CHANGE!

Umm, nobody actually think Congress is going to change anything. This happens after every season and every season the BCS continues to survive. Are you the BCS Executive Director by chance?

Some of us are just pointing out that there is a problem that needs to be fixed.

Chances are that he isn't...but would it surprise you if the BCS executive director was employing thousands of minions to go on to college football forums and spread propaganda for the BCS system? Its not like they don't have the money to do it...

Lol, am I really that transparent? I better brush up on my skills.

ytownfootball wrote:
Nothing will change until the same amount of money can be generated and those that are getting it now continue to get the same or more.

Talking point #1. I love this argument haha

jordo212000 wrote: Seems like they already have. You have a bunch of people on here doggedly defending the BCS, for what reason? I don't know. I love the token talking points that it seems like each person is contractually obligated to say.

There's a difference between defending the BCS on its own merits and pointing out the reality of the situation. A playoff is a pipe dream. Not going to happen. None of the arguments in favor of a playoff are ever relevant to the job/roles/decisions that have to be made by the powers-that-be of the NCAA/BCS. It is about money and that is all. So all the talk about "a true champion" and some competitive balance is irrelevant. That is not an endorsement of the BCS, but a dose of reality.

This whole Congress intervention immediately renews conversation about two things: 1) a playoff and 2) whether or not Congress should be involved in forcing a playoff.

1) A playoff isn't going to happen.
2) Congress isn't specifically trying to force a playoff.

Again, as ytown pointed out, this is about the practice of advertising a championship and making millions of dollars off of it (and not paying taxes on it), when it isn't really a championship. It is still about business and not about a playoff and one more time, that isn't an endorsement of the BCS but rather an explanation of the reality.

enigmaax wrote:
There's a difference between defending the BCS on its own merits and pointing out the reality of the situation. A playoff is a pipe dream. Not going to happen. None of the arguments in favor of a playoff are ever relevant to the job/roles/decisions that have to be made by the powers-that-be of the NCAA/BCS. It is about money and that is all. So all the talk about "a true champion" and some competitive balance is irrelevant. That is not an endorsement of the BCS, but a dose of reality.

This whole Congress intervention immediately renews conversation about two things: 1) a playoff and 2) whether or not Congress should be involved in forcing a playoff.

1) A playoff isn't going to happen.
2) Congress isn't specifically trying to force a playoff.

Again, as ytown pointed out, this is about the practice of advertising a championship and making millions of dollars off of it (and not paying taxes on it), when it isn't really a championship. It is still about business and not about a playoff and one more time, that isn't an endorsement of the BCS but rather an explanation of the reality.

If you read any of my other posts, I admit that nothing is going to come from this and the BCS will continue to survive.

I just hate that the BCS indoctrinates people into thinking that this is the only system that will "make money." Simply not true at all. Do you really think that a playoff of any kind wouldn't make serious $$$?

The fact is the current system works for those who set it up and it favors them too and that is why the BCS is not going anywhere.

Breaking news. http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4727426

House subcommittee approves legislation.

We are going to have a playoff one day.

BCSbunk wrote: Breaking news. http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4727426

House subcommittee approves legislation.

We are going to have a playoff one day.

No we aren't. They will go back to the pre 1998 bowl system before we have a playoff (I hate this saying with a passion, but it really fits here) and you can take that to the bank.

BCSbunk wrote: Breaking news. http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4727426

House subcommittee approves legislation.

We are going to have a playoff one day.

And here comes the obligatory "Congress has better things to do!" line.

The fact of the matter is though, the undercurrents of dissatisfaction with the BCS are there and only growing as the BCS continues to bungle matchups (this year being probably the worst year for it), a playoff will definitely happen one day.

BCSbunk wrote: Breaking news. http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4727426

House subcommittee approves legislation.

We are going to have a playoff one day.

Great news. I'll believe it when I see it though...

On the other hand, what was all that talk about Congress just demanding a name change?

jordo212000 wrote:

BCSbunk wrote: Breaking news. http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4727426

House subcommittee approves legislation.

We are going to have a playoff one day.

Great news. I'll believe it when I see it though...

On the other hand, what was all that talk about Congress just demanding a name change?

The bill would ban the promotion of a postseason NCAA Division I football game as a national championship unless that title contest is the result of a playoff.

LJ wrote:
No we aren't. They will go back to the pre 1998 bowl system before we have a playoff (I hate this saying with a passion, but it really fits here) and you can take that to the bank.

IF the BCS is no more. I think it is pretty obvious that there would be a playoff.

LJ wrote:

BCSbunk wrote: Breaking news. http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4727426

House subcommittee approves legislation.

We are going to have a playoff one day.

No we aren't. They will go back to the pre 1998 bowl system before we have a playoff (I hate this saying with a passion, but it really fits here) and you can take that to the bank.

There is no way college football goes back to the pre 1998 bowl system. Absolutely no way. College football is way too nationalized at this point. The growth of ESPN and the internet has really changed college football from a regional game, where winning your conference was the most important thing, to a national game where competing on a national scene is more important. There is absolutely no way we go back to the old system now.

I have wet dreams thinking about a playoff system.

LJ wrote:

BCSbunk wrote: Breaking news. http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4727426

House subcommittee approves legislation.

We are going to have a playoff one day.

No we aren't. They will go back to the pre 1998 bowl system before we have a playoff (I hate this saying with a passion, but it really fits here) and you can take that to the bank.

I do not think they will. The only reason they went to the BCS is because of the crap they had before with no champion. We still have no champion.

We will get a playoff in D1 in our lifetimes.

jordo212000 wrote: I just hate that the BCS indoctrinates people into thinking that this is the only system that will "make money." Simply not true at all. Do you really think that a playoff of any kind wouldn't make serious $$$?

I don't think a playoff would bring in the type of money that the BCS does. We just disagree on that. I do not think that should be the driving force behind the decision because I don't think that process aligns well with the stated mission of the NCAA and the precedent they set with handling of all other sports.

However, I also realize the risk of changing the system that extend beyond football and I also understand that money does have to be a consideration. It isn't and will never be as easy as just all of a sudden having dropping bowls and having a playoff.

jordo212000 wrote: The fact is the current system works for those who set it up and it favors them too and that is why the BCS is not going anywhere.

There is a lot of truth to this and there are a lot of people/schools making a mint off the system. But not everything that would be jeopardized is the evil empire. College football can be what it is today because of the dollars it generates.

The bill would ban the promotion of a postseason NCAA Division I football game as a national championship unless that title contest is the result of a playoff.

Two can play the quoting the game....

...aimed at forcing college football to switch to a playoff system to determine a national champion.

BCSbunk wrote:

LJ wrote:

BCSbunk wrote: Breaking news. http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4727426

House subcommittee approves legislation.

We are going to have a playoff one day.

No we aren't. They will go back to the pre 1998 bowl system before we have a playoff (I hate this saying with a passion, but it really fits here) and you can take that to the bank.

I do not think they will. The only reason they went to the BCS is because of the crap they had before with no champion. We still have no champion.

We will get a playoff in D1 in our lifetimes.

I will bet you $100 it doesn't happen in the next 50 years.