karen lotz;854348 wrote:I think Re**** tests out as the best athlete on Orlando's roster when everything measurable is factored in.
Hb31187;854481 wrote:O.o. You HAVE to be joking?
Redick measures out to be the beats when you factor everything in? Not the Multiple DPOY/MVP candidate/double double machine/shot blocker.
But the guy who averages 10 2 and 2 during a career year
Hb31187;853043 wrote:Might as well get accustom to being overseas. He'll be there after a year or 2 in the NBA
baseball4;854547 wrote:JJ Red**** still plays in the NBA. What is different between the two of them?
karen lotz;854504 wrote:Not joking at all. It was talked about one of the times Orlando was on TNT. I couldn't make that up if I wanted to and probably the only reason I remember it is because it made zero sense.
Y-Town Steelhound;853543 wrote:there are far worse defenders than him currently on NBA rosters.
Hb31187;854562 wrote:JJ was 5x the college player Diebler was. Re**** was an all american and NPOY....Diebler struggeld to make all big 10 teams
Wally also single handedly carried Miami on his shoulders when he was in college. Diebs was essentially a role playerHorrible comparison. Wally was a really solid NBA player for a period. He was much more physical and more well rounded offensively.
Hb31187;854562 wrote:JJ was 5x the college player Diebler was. Redick was an all american and NPOY....Diebler struggeld to make all big 10 teams
baseball4;854569 wrote:JJ played behind the 3 point line and played for Duke. Not exactly hard to get so much attention playing for either Duke or NC, I mean pollers and refs pretty much suck them off.
Laley23;854635 wrote:lol. Did you watch Redick in college?
Ironman92;854613 wrote:But the point of this thread is that Diebler won't last long at all and his skill set is not really NBA lasting.....list every award Re**** won in college if you want....many believed the same of Re****. Since when did collegiate accolades equal pro success?
My thoughts exactly lolLaley23;854635 wrote:lol. Did you watch Re**** in college?
Ironman92;854648 wrote:I did...love Duke, but he was often given trouble when going against the longer athletic players....just like he would face in the NBA.
I know it wasn't meant for me.Laley23;854678 wrote:That was not directed at you, but Baseball4 who said Redick lived behind the 3 pt line. That is just not close to true.
But I will address what you are saying. He was given trouble, and so was Diebler. In fact, Diebler was no where to be found in other games when he wasnt guarded by athletic players. Redick is a MUCH better player, so his success (or just being in the league) has absolutely no bearing on anything Diebler will do.
Ironman92;854697 wrote:I know it wasn't meant for me.
I'm not disagreeing at all....I'm still saying many people believed Redick would not have much play in the league...the experts thought he could probably find a role and the majority of the guys on these type of sites figured he would be having about 2-3 years of what Adam Morrison has done the past 2-3 years......and these same words are being said about Diebler....they may very well be true. He's got to improve his defense greatly to be any kind of regular factor....but you'd think he knows most fans believe him to not have much of a career....surely he's busting his ass to prove many wrong but most importantly...to make his dreams come true.
I do understand what you guys are saying and the odds are with you....but I'm just not betting against him having a decent NBA career.
Laley23;854703 wrote:Ok I see what you were saying, and that is true.
BUT, it isnt like that has any bearing. Just because Redick proved people wrong doesnt mean Diebler will. I mean, the chances of Redick succeeding were small, and he has more than we though. But most guys dont. We cant sit here and say because Redick did it we should expect others to do it.
It isnt like other guys arent out there busting ass to prove people wrong. Diebler isnt any better than they are in the work department. He isnt some kind of special kid who wil outwork everyone in the world. Again, the odds are he doesnt make it. Doesnt mean he wont, but you would be crazy (imo) to put money down at 1-1 odds.
Ironman92;854804 wrote:I said the odds are with you 1/1 would be silly.
.I guess it depends on your definition of living behind the line. Over his 4 year duke career Redick had 1906 field goal attempts. 1126 of those attempts were 3 point shots. That means 59% of his shots were behind the line. Is that living behind the line?That was not directed at you, but Baseball4 who said Re**** lived behind the 3 pt line. That is just not close to true.
I don't think so. Redick has worked hard to make himself into a good role player in the NBA, but his he has not made himself into the best athlete on Orlando's roster.I think Re**** tests out as the best athlete on Orlando's roster when everything measurable is factored in.
Give me all the stats you want. I watched Redick live behind the line as a Freshman and Sophomore. Unlike most shooters, including Diebler, he really worked on his game and was a complete player his last 2 years, especially as a Senior.Prescott;855017 wrote:I guess it depends on your definition of living behind the line. Over his 4 year duke career Redick had 1906 field goal attempts. 1126 of those attempts were 3 point shots. That means 59% of his shots were behind the line. Is that living behind the line?
Give me all the stats you want. I watched Redick live behind the line as a Freshman and Sophomore. Unlike most shooters, including Diebler, he really worked on his game and was a complete player his last 2 years, especially as a Senior.Prescott;855017 wrote:I guess it depends on your definition of living behind the line. Over his 4 year duke career Redick had 1906 field goal attempts. 1126 of those attempts were 3 point shots. That means 59% of his shots were behind the line. Is that living behind the line?
We all watched Redick and while he did go to the basket more during his last two years he didn't go there to finish and he didn't go there often He went there to draw fouls, It was very similar to what Diebler did this year.Give me all the stats you want.