Speedofsand;954721 wrote:Anyone know Peyton Manning's numbers his first year? Or Matthew Stafford ? There are dozens of guys who are/were good QBs that had awful numbers early in their careers. Especially when they were on awful teams.

Speedofsand;954721 wrote:Anyone know Peyton Manning's numbers his first year? Or Matthew Stafford ? There are dozens of guys who are/were good QBs that had awful numbers early in their careers. Especially when they were on awful teams.

Footwedge;954277 wrote:Funny how whenever Albert Pujols crosses himself and points to the sky...just before he crosses home plate...after hitting one out...nobody does any Puholing, eh? Or the same with Astrubal Cabrera, Raffy Perez, nor Luis Valbueno.

They didn't make fun of "Timmy bitching". They made fun of his religious reaction. In a country where the wide majority of people are theistic, I find that a little odd. But since you call yourself Heretic, it all makes sense that you were offended.

Heretic;954915 wrote:Rod "HE HATE ME" Smart

Footwedge;954349 wrote:You might be right. I think he should switch to tight end myself. But playing on this crappy team makes it hard to know for sure if he's an NFL quarterback. Steve Young was a lot worse than Tebow...for years....when he played for Tampa Bay. Funny how he ended up in Canton isn't it?

LJ;954938 wrote:Young played in 19 games in 2 years in Tampa Bay, had an average completion % of 52.95 for 3217 yards for 11 tds and 21 INT

Tebow has played in 12 games in 2 years, has an average completion % of 48.1 for 1,066 yards, 13 TD's and 5 INT's.

I don't see Young being "a lot worse" other than turning the ball over

Let's not forget Young played 2 years in the UFL before he went to Tampa, so his first 2 years of Pro ball he had a 56.25 completion %, and threw for 4102 yards. Lets not forget that in 1985 as the league was falling apart he had to play as the sole back in games because his team had no running backs.


So in other words....no, just.....no

Skyhook79;954950 wrote:Steve Youngs stats are terrible his first 2 years no matter how you try and spin it. How many people thought Steve Young would make it in the NFL, let alone a HOF career, after those first 2 years? I am by no means saying Tebow is going to make it but some of the criticism is just pure hatred for him as a person.

Heretic;954915 wrote:From reading this reaction, I'm now trying to decide if you just completely failed at comprehending what I (or the article I linked to) said or if you're just retarded. To break in down even more for the challenged...

1. Tebow currently sucks as an NFL quarterback. The only thing he really has going for him are "intangibles" (ie: the "he wins games" argument people used for Krenzel as an NFL QB.

2. Tebow gets an amazing amount of love from unrealistic people (look at SoS' attempt to compare Peyton Manning to him based on a first year by Manning that was apparently 500% better than what SoS thought it was). This seems based on said intangibles, the fact he was a winner at college and because he's a good person off the field.

3. Anyone who's not a Tebow fan for those reasons (none of which have anything to do with prolonged NFL success, if actual NFL QB talent isn't also part of the picture) is wondering why a guy who really has no business on the football field at this point is getting so much attention and why so many retards are trying to make any excuse possible for his shitty play. Or in your case, trying to make an issue out of an opponent mocking his prayer gesture.

The last time I remember a player getting a lot of attention for doing so little, it was either Rod "HE HATE ME" Smart or Freddie "I just want to thank my hands for being so great." Mitchell, but Tebow takes it to a whole new level.

LJ;954938 wrote:
Let's not forget Young played 2 years in the UFL before he went to Tampa, so his first 2 years of Pro ball he had a 56.25 completion %, and threw for 4102 yards. Lets not forget that in 1985 as the league was falling apart he had to play as the sole back in games because his team had no running backs.

Skyhook79;954973 wrote:You make it sound like the UFL was legit Pro football. They had a few stars and a lot of average to below average players. If anything playing 2 years in the UFL and then putting up those numbers at Tampa Bay makes it worse.

Skyhook79;954963 wrote:Your giving tebow attention so I guess that makes you a hypocrite

Heretic;954994 wrote:That's moron-level arguing there. I wouldn't be talking about Tebow if the world wasn't so determined to shove him down everyone's throat. When you can't watch sports TV or go to sports websites without His name being prominently placed, it's hard not to get involved in discussions involving him. And when the person generating so much discussion sucks, it's annoying. The masses need educated.

Skyhook79;955020 wrote:Yeah right, you just can't stop yourself from talking about him. Weak argument.

Heretic;954994 wrote: And when the person generating so much discussion sucks, it's annoying. .

lhslep134;955069 wrote:I don't think he sucks. I think he's a terrible passer, but he and the Broncos would succeed in an offensive gameplan tailored specifically to his mediocre passing ability and precocious running ability.

Automatik;955076 wrote:Yeah that would be great.....in college. Primarily running the wildcat in the NFL? That is laughable.

I think he could be effective in a wildcat, hybrid type player role, but as a fulltime QB....hell no.

Automatik;955076 wrote:Yeah that would be great.....in college. Primarily running the wildcat in the NFL? That is laughable.

DeyDurkie5;955081 wrote:lhslep has quickly turned into a moron with his posts. Haven't agreed with what he has been saying for quiet some time now. Seriously, a college offense tailored to tebows needs? laughable. start brady quinn or kyle ****ing orton.

lhslep134;955086 wrote:If you're going to invest in Tebow, why not invest the effort to at least give it a shot? Look, they're not winning with Orton. They're not going to win with Tebow as a pocket passer. It doesn't need to be the straight wildcat per se, but Tebow needs to be in the shotgun. He simply sucks under center.