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Nov 14, 2011 10:48 PM
Non;973274 wrote:I think they'll waltz to the Super Bowl.

But the Super Bowl will be a good game.

New Orleans played Green Bay close and I would put Steelers, Ravens, Texans w/Schaub, Patriots all equal to or better than New Orleans
NO can hang w/ them offensively, that's why they were able to play it close. NO is very underrated offensively. IMO they're the only team in the NFL that can beat Green Bay, because they have the offense to hang w/ them.

Those other teams don't have the offense and their defense won't stop GB, no matter how good it is.
Nov 14, 2011 10:48pm
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Nov 14, 2011 10:49 PM
There is nobody even close to Aaron Rodgers right now. The gap between him and #2 (Brady, Brees?) is as wide as I can ever remember one being.

Packers are deficient in some spots, but doesn't matter one bit with #12 out there.

Rodgers has a 129 QB rating this year, not including his 146 in this game currently! That is 27 points ahead of Brady this year and 8 points clear of Mannings record. Fucking sick.
Nov 14, 2011 10:49pm
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Nov 14, 2011 10:52 PM
SportsAndLady;973283 wrote:NO can hang w/ them offensively, that's why they were able to play it close. NO is very underrated offensively. IMO they're the only team in the NFL that can beat Green Bay, because they have the offense to hang w/ them.

Those other teams don't have the offense and their defense won't stop GB, no matter how good it is.
I think all of those teams -- Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Houston and New England -- would score enough to be in the game.

All have good to great QBs. With the exception of Houston, the other teams are battle tested and resilient. They'll find a way to be in it late.
Nov 14, 2011 10:52pm
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Nov 14, 2011 10:57 PM
Non;973291 wrote:I think all of those teams -- Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Houston and New England -- would score enough to be in the game.

All have good to great QBs. With the exception of Houston, the other teams are battle tested and resilient. They'll find a way to be in it late.
No fuckin way...mayyyybe Pittsburgh b/c they've been there before. But Brady has no serious weapons, Houston's offense is good but will crumble in the playoffs, and Baltimore is led by Joe Flacco
Nov 14, 2011 10:57pm
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Nov 14, 2011 10:57 PM
Non;973291 wrote:I think Houston would score enough to be in the game.

All have good to great QBs. With the exception of Houston, the other teams are battle tested and resilient. They'll find a way to be in it late.


Nov 14, 2011 10:57pm
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Nov 14, 2011 11:00 PM
Packers aren't going to play one of the best AFC teams until the Super Bowl so there is no real measuring stick.

But you look at the San Diego game. The Chargers are significantly below the likes of Baltimore, Pittsburgh and New England this year and that game was 45-38.
Nov 14, 2011 11:00pm
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Nov 14, 2011 11:03 PM
Non;973279 wrote:Dallas might be a team to keep an eye on.
As much as I want to believe that Sunday was not a fluke, Dallas will not make the playoffs. :(
Nov 14, 2011 11:03pm
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Nov 14, 2011 11:03 PM
Non;973303 wrote:Packers aren't going to play one of the best AFC teams until the Super Bowl so there is no real measuring stick.

But you look at the San Diego game. The Chargers are significantly below the likes of Baltimore, Pittsburgh and New England this year and that game was 45-38.
Chargers offense>>Baltimore, Pittsburgh, NE's offenses
Nov 14, 2011 11:03pm
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Nov 14, 2011 11:03 PM
SportsAndLady;973298 wrote:No ****in way...mayyyybe Pittsburgh b/c they've been there before. But Brady has no serious weapons, Houston's offense is good but will crumble in the playoffs, and Baltimore is led by Joe Flacco
New England just turned it around last night. Defense looks like it's going to be a little stronger now. Brady is still awesome.

Patriots vs. Packers would be like 38-34 somebody

Flacco plays better against good competition for some reason

the Super Bowl was close last year, Steelers had the ball with a chance for a final drive to win the game...it will be the same type of game this year
Nov 14, 2011 11:03pm
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Nov 14, 2011 11:04 PM
lol at Non thinking the Pats could hang with GB. Is NE gonna score a TD on every possession? Cause thats what it would take with Rodgers going against that secondary.

Pittsburgh could, cause they can score and could get some stops.

Houston? Really? With Leinart?

Baltimore? No fucking way. Rodgers would dice even their defense, and Flacco isnt scoring nearly enough.

But why arent the Jets in your thoughts? They were coming on so strong. No one saw it but you!
Nov 14, 2011 11:04pm
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Nov 14, 2011 11:06 PM
SportsAndLady;973312 wrote:Chargers offense>>Baltimore, Pittsburgh, NE's offenses
Disagree. Maybe in year's past but Rivers is having to do way too much now. Offensive line stinks.
Nov 14, 2011 11:06pm
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Nov 14, 2011 11:08 PM
Non;973313 wrote:New England just turned it around last night. Defense looks like it's going to be a little stronger now. Brady is still awesome.

Patriots vs. Packers would be like 38-34 somebody

Flacco plays better against good competition for some reason

the Super Bowl was close last year, Steelers had the ball with a chance for a final drive to win the game...it will be the same type of game this year
NE didn't turn it around; the Jets are o-v-e-r-r-a-t-e-d

NE doens't have weapons to put up 38 in the playoffs. Yes, they have Brady, but you need weapons to put up those numbers. With a top 5 defense, NE is scary; with their defense now, they're not a threat.

Flacco is not winning any Superbowls. No fucking way, just stop.

SUper Bowl was close last year....that was last year. This GB offense is better.
Nov 14, 2011 11:08pm
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Nov 14, 2011 11:12 PM
Laley23;973315 wrote:lol at Non thinking the Pats could hang with GB. Is NE gonna score a TD on every possession? Cause thats what it would take with Rodgers going against that secondary.

Pittsburgh could, cause they can score and could get some stops.

Houston? Really? With Leinart?

Baltimore? No ****ing way. Rodgers would dice even their defense, and Flacco isnt scoring nearly enough.

But why arent the Jets in your thoughts? They were coming on so strong. No one saw it but you!
Jets were coming on...until New England made an even bigger statement.

New England was in a little slump but they have a great coach and determination and it looks like they may have fixed some things enough to still contend this year.

I think you're getting carried away watching Vikings vs. Packers.

Packers have had some tough games against teams that are not as good as the teams I mentioned. There's no question about it.
Nov 14, 2011 11:12pm
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Nov 14, 2011 11:16 PM
also, the Steelers and Ravens still have a good defense and good defensive players

I'd take their offense + defense over the Saints and Chargers all offense and no defense teams. Easily. Come on guys.
Nov 14, 2011 11:16pm
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Nov 14, 2011 11:20 PM
Non;973341 wrote:also, the Steelers and Ravens still have a good defense and good defensive players

I'd take their offense + defense over the Saints and Chargers all offense and no defense teams. Easily. Come on guys.
All I know is Packers arent losing games to Seattle and Jacksonville.

And NE didnt make a bigger statement. How about the Jets just arent that good? That argument is easier to make than yours.

And not only am I not overreacting to this game. I have watched like 1 quarter of it. But you clearly are overreacting to the NE/NYJ game. Saying NE has turned it around. lol, they beat a decent team with a horrible offense. They still lost their previous 2 games....yet are turning it around.
Nov 14, 2011 11:20pm
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Nov 14, 2011 11:21 PM
There's no doubt in my mind that, on a given night, one of the top AFC teams could keep it close into the 4th and give themselves a chance to win. But I still think the Packers are clearly the #1 team in the league.
Nov 14, 2011 11:21pm
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Nov 14, 2011 11:24 PM
Non;973341 wrote:also, the Steelers and Ravens still have a good defense and good defensive players

I'd take their offense + defense over the Saints and Chargers all offense and no defense teams. Easily. Come on guys.
In general, absolutely...but that's not our argument. It's whose offense can hang w/ the Packers, not who is the better team.

Obviously we would take Pitts/Balt's offense + defense over the Chargers offense + defense (not sure I agree on NO though)...but against the Packers you gotta score, so I'm taking the Chargers' chance as greater than Pitts/Balt's chances.
Nov 14, 2011 11:24pm
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Nov 14, 2011 11:26 PM
Laley23;973347 wrote:All I know is Packers arent losing games to Seattle and Jacksonville.

And NE didnt make a bigger statement. How about the Jets just arent that good? That argument is easier to make than yours.
New England's defense looked pretty good. Only one game but obviously if you have a good coach and the team loses two in a row they're going to try hard to correct things or at least put a bandage on some weak areas enough to where they don't get shredded all the time. I think they'll be better the rest of the year just because it was an area that was so obviously getting torched.

Brady can score every time he gets the ball anyway.

If New Orleans can play Green Bay in a shootout, New England with Brady certainly can.
Nov 14, 2011 11:26pm
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Nov 14, 2011 11:27 PM
gorocks99;973349 wrote:There's no doubt in my mind that, on a given night, one of the top AFC teams could keep it close into the 4th and give themselves a chance to win. But I still think the Packers are clearly the #1 team in the league.
I agree they're the best.

Just not that the Super Bowl would be Packers by two touchdowns against anybody.

I think it would be similar to last year. Even if a team falls behind they'll rally and be within one possession.
Nov 14, 2011 11:27pm
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Nov 14, 2011 11:29 PM
Brady can score every time he gets the ball anyway.
You're being brainwashed by the media
Nov 14, 2011 11:29pm
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Nov 14, 2011 11:29 PM
SportsAndLady;973355 wrote:In general, absolutely...but that's not our argument. It's whose offense can hang w/ the Packers, not who is the better team.

Obviously we would take Pitts/Balt's offense + defense over the Chargers offense + defense (not sure I agree on NO though)...but against the Packers you gotta score, so I'm taking the Chargers' chance as greater than Pitts/Balt's chances.
Dude, if you have a better defense there is still the chance at getting a few more stops. And then those teams, in my opinion, still have QBs as good as Rivers with good offensive players around them.
Nov 14, 2011 11:29pm
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Nov 14, 2011 11:31 PM
Non;973366 wrote:Dude, if you have a better defense there is still the chance at getting a few more stops. And then those teams, in my opinion, still have QBs as good as Rivers with good offensive players around them.
Aint stoppin Rodgers and that offense...gotta score w/ them to beat them. Pittsburgh/Baltimore aint doin that
Nov 14, 2011 11:31pm
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Nov 14, 2011 11:32 PM
You guys better stick with soccer chat.
Nov 14, 2011 11:32pm
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Nov 14, 2011 11:33 PM
SportsAndLady;973365 wrote:You're being brainwashed by the media

They did have a string of like 12 straight games over 30 points. I think Packers/Patriots would be a fantastic match up.
Nov 14, 2011 11:33pm
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Nov 14, 2011 11:35 PM
Terry_Tate;973371 wrote:They did have a string of like 12 straight games over 30 points. I think Packers/Patriots would be a fantastic match up.
New England would score 30. But GB would score 50. Their secondary is terrible. When Rodney Harrison says they are bad, you know its true lol. He even called out Rex Ryan for trying to run too much!
Nov 14, 2011 11:35pm