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Nov 14, 2011 11:36 PM
I mean I hate the Patriots but you're telling me I'm brainwashed thinking Brady can keep the Patriots in a shootout game?
Nov 14, 2011 11:36pm
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Nov 14, 2011 11:40 PM
The New England that played Pittsburgh and New York would probably lose to the Packers like 44-34.

But if they improve the secondary some...which I think they will because they're good coaches and they're trying to fix it...I could see it being maybe 41-34.

The Ravens and Steelers might get a few stops that some other teams wouldn't and therefore they may end up losing like 31-25...same as the Super Bowl last year.

We'll agree to disagree.
Nov 14, 2011 11:40pm
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Nov 14, 2011 11:42 PM
I hate Green Bay lol. After the first quarter my fantasy game was me down 74-72. Both of us had 1 active player, I had Jennings, he had Cobb. Youd think Jennings would outscore Cobb by 2 points in 3 quarters of football right? Nope, Rodgers threw Jennings way like 2 times the whole rest of the game. Fucking horse shit
Nov 14, 2011 11:42pm
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Nov 14, 2011 11:43 PM
Laley23;973374 wrote:New England would score 30. But GB would score 50. Their secondary is terrible. When Rodney Harrison says they are bad, you know its true lol. He even called out Rex Ryan for trying to run too much!

Oh no doubt Green Bay would put up points, but I just don't see the Patriots getting blown out in a shootout game. It would be 45-42 or something, but I think Brady can hang with anyone in a shootout, though right now Rodgers is the only guy id take over Brady.
Nov 14, 2011 11:43pm
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Nov 14, 2011 11:48 PM
Terry_Tate;973380 wrote:Oh no doubt Green Bay would put up points, but I just don't see the Patriots getting blown out in a shootout game. It would be 45-42 or something, but I think Brady can hang with anyone in a shootout, though right now Rodgers is the only guy id take over Brady.
Hopefully we find out, since I think the Pats will win the AFC. They have the inside track for the Home Field advantage. But after nons talk, I hope its the Steelers or Ravens so we can find out one way or the other lol.
Nov 14, 2011 11:48pm
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Nov 14, 2011 11:53 PM
Laley23;973384 wrote:Hopefully we find out, since I think the Pats will win the AFC. They have the inside track for the Home Field advantage. But after nons talk, I hope its the Steelers or Ravens so we can find out one way or the other lol.
It probably will be one of those teams or Texans.

Respectfully I think you're counting teams out that hit a little bump in the road.

Teams like Pittsburgh, Baltimore and New England are serious contenders and have been for a few years. Yeah they're not hitting on all cylinders every game but by the time the Super Bowl comes the team that is there is going to have it together just making it through the playoffs. Packers may be better, too, but maybe not. They may not have to improve any to win the NFC.
Nov 14, 2011 11:53pm
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Nov 14, 2011 11:57 PM
We've seen quite a few Super Bowl champs in recent years that didn't emerge until late in the season or until the postseason.
Nov 14, 2011 11:57pm
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Nov 15, 2011 12:08 AM
Laley23;973347 wrote:But you clearly are overreacting to the NE/NYJ game. Saying NE has turned it around. lol, they beat a decent team with a horrible offense. They still lost their previous 2 games....yet are turning it around.
I don't think I'm overreacting.

Jets were legitimately playing well. Patriots were coming off two losses and had to prepare well and then carry that into a big divisional game on the road.

Time will tell but I think that was the Patriots putting their foot down and they're going to be a threat now.

I kinda hope not but I think that's just what happened.
Nov 15, 2011 12:08am
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Nov 15, 2011 12:49 AM
Question: to who do the Pack lose? I'm looking at @nyg 12/4.

Btw, NYG were my preseason pick for SB winner. Sticking by it.
Nov 15, 2011 12:49am
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Nov 15, 2011 1:23 AM
Hb31187;973378 wrote:I hate Green Bay lol. After the first quarter my fantasy game was me down 74-72. Both of us had 1 active player, I had Jennings, he had Cobb. Youd think Jennings would outscore Cobb by 2 points in 3 quarters of football right? Nope, Rodgers threw Jennings way like 2 times the whole rest of the game. Fucking horse shit
Cobb? Points for return yards and returns TD's? If not, why would someone start him?
Nov 15, 2011 1:23am
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Nov 15, 2011 1:45 AM
sportswizuhrd;973472 wrote:Cobb? Points for return yards and returns TD's? If not, why would someone start him?
Yeah points for return yards and Tds. And this fuck is retarded, and his gamble happened to pay off tonight and he beat me
Nov 15, 2011 1:45am
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Nov 15, 2011 7:44 AM
Non;973375 wrote:I mean I hate the Patriots but you're telling me I'm brainwashed thinking Brady can keep the Patriots in a shootout game?
Shootout against Green Bay?!?! Yeah, you're fucking crazy.

Brady is obviously good..but he doesn't have the weapons to put up Green Bay numbers.
Nov 15, 2011 7:44am
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Nov 15, 2011 8:23 AM
wildcats20;973311 wrote:As much as I want to believe that Sunday was not a fluke, Dallas will not make the playoffs. :(
Seriously? Dallas is going to win the NFC East for sure. They will win their next 3 games against terrible teams and I honestly wouldn't be surprised if the Giants lose their next 3. Also Sunday was not a fluke... the Sunday night game against the Eagles was a fluke.

Also I don't want to really get into this who "how much better is GB than everyone else" debate but I'll GB by 7 over anyone.

As for Houston if Schaub was healthy that offense would be perfect for the playoffs their running game is better than anyone in the league. And an offense that could run the ball and control the clock would have been an awesome duel against the Packers and their passing attack sadly we won't get the chance to see that.
Nov 15, 2011 8:23am
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Nov 15, 2011 8:37 AM
anybody but the steelers. non is just the worst.
Nov 15, 2011 8:37am
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Nov 15, 2011 8:55 AM
Steelers, Patriots and Texans offenses could keep it respectable versus the Packers but I still think it would be 14 points or a bit more. Chargers = NO

Of the three, I think the Texans might have the best chance at keeping it close when Schaub is healthy. With the two headed RB monster (Foster/Tate) that Houston has, they'd likely be able to chew up a lot of clock and keep Rodgers off the field.
Nov 15, 2011 8:55am
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Nov 15, 2011 9:00 AM
BR1986FB;973570 wrote:Steelers, Patriots and Texans offenses could keep it respectable versus the Packers but I still think it would be 14 points or a bit more. Chargers = NO

Of the three, I think the Texans might have the best chance at keeping it close when Schaub is healthy. With the two headed RB monster (Foster/Tate) that Houston has, they'd likely be able to chew up a lot of clock and keep Rodgers off the field.
We will see how the Texans are without Schaub, but I feel with their system, most QBs with a good arm can succeed. If Foster and Tate keep it up, I have a feeling Leinart will do just as well.
Nov 15, 2011 9:00am
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Nov 15, 2011 9:05 AM
SportsAndLady;973525 wrote:Shootout against Green Bay?!?! Yeah, you're ****ing crazy.

Brady is obviously good..but he doesn't have the weapons to put up Green Bay numbers.
Cam Newton and Philip Rivers kept their teams in the game against Green Bay.

Brady certainly can. We're talking about Tom Brady, right?
Nov 15, 2011 9:05am
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Nov 15, 2011 9:29 AM
like_that;973574 wrote:We will see how the Texans are without Schaub, but I feel with their system, most QBs with a good arm can succeed. If Foster and Tate keep it up, I have a feeling Leinart will do just as well.
I know it seems too simple...but stack the box and force him to beat you. Leinart shouldn't be starting in the NFL.
Nov 15, 2011 9:29am
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Nov 15, 2011 10:10 AM
Raw Dawgin' it;973607 wrote:I know it seems too simple...but stack the box and force him to beat you. Leinart shouldn't be starting in the NFL.
What do you think teams have been doing to the Texans with Schaub? They stack the box to stop Foster/Tate, then the Texans draw them in with a play action and get off a long pass.

It's really nothing crazy, but when your running game runs all over defenses, it makes the job 100x easier for the QB.
Nov 15, 2011 10:10am
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Nov 15, 2011 10:17 AM
You're selling Schaub short. He's a good QB in his own right.

I agree with the point. Running game sets up play action. Most QBs will have a better chance in that type of offense. But there is still a drop off from Schaub to Leinart.
Nov 15, 2011 10:17am
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Nov 15, 2011 10:50 AM
I agree with those who think the Texans are gonna see a drop off, and most likely a significant one, at the QB position. And that will undoubtedly affect their running game IMO.

Also, the Packers look fantastic thus far but I remember reading similar posts about the Patriots a few years back during their undefeated season. Anything can happen....and despite their unblemished record.....I think the Packers can and will be beaten. In the regular season and I could see it happening in the playoffs too. It only takes one game, one gameplan, etc.

They deserve the praise they're getting...but they can get got.
Nov 15, 2011 10:50am
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Nov 15, 2011 11:28 AM
like_that;973574 wrote:We will see how the Texans are without Schaub, but I feel with their system, most QBs with a good arm can succeed. If Foster and Tate keep it up, I have a feeling Leinart will do just as well.
I disagree. Schaub is better than people give him credit for and Leinart is terrible and shouldn't even be starting in the NFL. I wouldn't be shocked if they maybe tried to go and get Garrard even though he said he wants to be on a team that he would be the starter for long term.
Nov 15, 2011 11:28am
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Nov 15, 2011 11:31 AM
Why doesn't Charlie Frye have a job in the NFL? I know he didn't kill it but I don't remember him being so bad he shouldn't be a back up or even starting for some of these teams who don't have a solid QB.
Nov 15, 2011 11:31am
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Nov 15, 2011 11:37 AM
Iliketurtles;973544 wrote:Seriously? Dallas is going to win the NFC East for sure. They will win their next 3 games against terrible teams and I honestly wouldn't be surprised if the Giants lose their next 3. Also Sunday was not a fluke... the Sunday night game against the Eagles was a fluke.
I hope you're right...
Nov 15, 2011 11:37am
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Nov 15, 2011 11:41 AM
wildcats20;973805 wrote:I hope you're right...
I hope I am too! I got 200 bucks riding on the Cowboys to win the NFC East LOL!
Nov 15, 2011 11:41am