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Jmar25
Posts: 438
Jan 19, 2012 7:52pm
I agree with more wrestling is a good thing. it is the weakest tournament on NW and Way schedule. BUT... what makes the tournament so great us the atmosphere and finals... I'm worried about the pool ruining this... I say simple fix and what should have been done and for some reason I remember it being similar to this at one time.... 3-4 guys equals automatic round robin... everything else is a bracket... I guess we'll have to see though... I just hate that a final could potentially have a 3-0 vs a 2-1 kid. that means that there most likely will be another 2-1 kid. who gets the nod to go across the bracket for first? coaches vote? can't tell me waynedale won't get screwed there... what if the 2-1 wins ans the other 2-1 wins? now we have 3 3-1 kids who gets first? (not the waynedale kid) too much objectivity IMO.rtherthrwyathnknwya;1056016 wrote:The format change will help there to be more wrestling. No more byes to the the finals or two match performances by some of our best wrestlers. A three man bracket is a fact and a tragedy. Under the old format in a three man bracket the #1 seed gets bye'd into the finals...and if that person's seeding criteria is questionable look out! This format creates more fairness, reduces the emphasis on seeding and makes more wrestling. If you have a problem with more wrestling, you have a problem with yourself. 5 man bracket #1 seed could wrestle twice. Here they wrestle three times.
If you've read my comments over the years I'm a big advocate of more WCAL wrestling. This is a small change, but a good one. Wrestlers bump around every year to benefit the team. That's a good thing! It makes matchups that otherwise wouldn't happen. If it is a fact that Waynedale opposes this change then I'm disappointed in the same way I am disappointed that NW/Way dual isn't a yearly occurrence. I know and understand that WCAL foes wrestle each other too much in the month of February...anyway I'm just saying I know the talking points and prefer more local wrestling.
CAT classic. I got to see several great local wrestlers, however it was Cloverleaf, Wadsworth and Tuslaw that were the powers there. I saw coach wearing a Bill Cosby sweater and a trench coat, and many great Wayne county wrestlers including a few from Wooster and Rittman. Mark my words that the Indians will be legit once this talent filters through. Seems like good coaching and quality kids involved in that program.
this all could be and would be adressed before the meet and my concerns answered but I just dunno... I think the idea is ok but I can see this creating major isssues. (more than bracketgate...fudgegate...spygate...refgate...and all the other gates)
1_beast
Posts: 5,642
Jan 19, 2012 8:14pm
you forgot "formatgate" and "Rowland is a dork gate" 
Red Rum
Posts: 1,006
Jan 19, 2012 9:16pm
not to mention "FORFEITGATE"
Finley and Heldenbrand both dropping is interesting.
In both cases it's out of the frying pan and into the fire. Finley avoids Beam, but gets Stanley. While Heldenbrand avoids Stanley but gets Fortune. The moves probably help the Falcon wrestlers a little, but the road is still pretty rough.
145, 152 & 160 will all be fun classes to watch at county.
How many wrestlers are in the HWT class? CHIP,SMV,NWN,WD,DAL, not sure about HILL & NOR.
If it ends up being a 5 man pool. Will there be a championship match? and what would happen if Kelbly & Srock wrestled twice (pool round & championship) and each went 1-1 against the other.
Who's the champ? if this scenario played out.
Finley and Heldenbrand both dropping is interesting.
In both cases it's out of the frying pan and into the fire. Finley avoids Beam, but gets Stanley. While Heldenbrand avoids Stanley but gets Fortune. The moves probably help the Falcon wrestlers a little, but the road is still pretty rough.
145, 152 & 160 will all be fun classes to watch at county.
How many wrestlers are in the HWT class? CHIP,SMV,NWN,WD,DAL, not sure about HILL & NOR.
If it ends up being a 5 man pool. Will there be a championship match? and what would happen if Kelbly & Srock wrestled twice (pool round & championship) and each went 1-1 against the other.
Who's the champ? if this scenario played out.
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nikstlitslepmur
Posts: 32
Jan 19, 2012 9:49pm
What year was Tommy Rowlands involved with the WCAL tourney?
1_beast
Posts: 5,642
Jan 19, 2012 9:54pm
LOL well played, but kind sir...as you know....Im speaking of Chad.nikstlitslepmur;1059628 wrote:What year was Tommy Rowlands involved with the WCAL tourney?
BearBoy69
Posts: 291
Jan 19, 2012 11:04pm
From the looks of it Kelbly might win it! it is his senior year, and with Srock being only a Jr, Kelbly might come out with more passion. I know NOR does not have a heavy, not sure about HILL they usually do, unless NOR's 220 bumps.Red Rum;1059578 wrote:
How many wrestlers are in the HWT class? CHIP,SMV,NWN,WD,DAL, not sure about HILL & NOR.
If it ends up being a 5 man pool. Will there be a championship match? and what would happen if Kelbly & Srock wrestled twice (pool round & championship) and each went 1-1 against the other.
Who's the champ? if this scenario played out.
rtherthrwyathnknwya
Posts: 97
Jan 20, 2012 8:55am
Any "gate" involving Chad would clearly be "nosegate."
1_beast
Posts: 5,642
Jan 21, 2012 11:03pm
[LEFT]any results on Northwestern or Tuslaw tournaments today?[/LEFT]
1_beast
Posts: 5,642
Jan 22, 2012 8:41am
1_beast;1061516 wrote:[LEFT]any results on Northwestern or Tuslaw tournaments today?[/LEFT]
Sounds like a great day of wrestling!
Old Rider
Posts: 2,470
Jan 22, 2012 12:35pm
Way to go Red Riders on winning the Woo Invite.
THE4RINGZ
Posts: 16,816
Jan 22, 2012 12:47pm
Yes congratulations riders. If you attended the tournament yesterday, you also had an opportunity to be around the Wooster Speech and Debate team as they had their annual tournament at home as well. that has to be a win-win for some in attendance.Old Rider;1061719 wrote:Way to go Red Riders on winning the Woo Invite.
Old Rider
Posts: 2,470
Jan 22, 2012 2:27pm
Yeah...nerds and singlets!THE4RINGZ;1061731 wrote:Yes congratulations riders. If you attended the tournament yesterday, you also had an opportunity to be around the Wooster Speech and Debate team as they had their annual tournament at home as well. that has to be a win-win for some in attendance.
THE4RINGZ
Posts: 16,816
Jan 22, 2012 2:31pm
Haters make us famous...Old Rider;1061847 wrote:Yeah...nerds and singlets!
1_beast
Posts: 5,642
Jan 22, 2012 3:12pm
jealous....Old Rider;1061847 wrote:Yeah...nerds and singlets!
BearBoy69
Posts: 291
Jan 22, 2012 7:04pm
anybody else think that after a big weekend of wrestling the Daily Record had a TERRIBLE write-up for wrestling today? had a bunch of junk on the front page of sports. No justice for wrestling
1_beast
Posts: 5,642
Jan 22, 2012 7:13pm
I didnt think it was bad...National Headlines on page 1 with Paterno, COW (lot of interest)...pretty good write-ups on Orrville winning the Woo Invite and the Northwestern tourney. Would have had something on Waynedale Duals....had everyone not cancelled.
Only thing that has me curious is the Tuslaw happenings...
Only thing that has me curious is the Tuslaw happenings...
THE4RINGZ
Posts: 16,816
Jan 22, 2012 7:16pm
1_beast;1062369 wrote:I didnt think it was bad...National Headlines on page 1 with Paterno, COW (lot of interest)...pretty good write-ups on Orrville winning the Woo Invite and the Northwestern tourney. Would have had something on Waynedale Duals....had everyone not cancelled.
Only thing that has me curious is the Tuslaw happenings...
I would agree with beast here, but that usually throws the earth off its axis.
1_beast
Posts: 5,642
Jan 22, 2012 7:17pm
THE4RINGZ;1062376 wrote:I would agree with beast here, but that usually throws the earth off its axis.
Nah...just means you have started to recognize common sense!
THE4RINGZ
Posts: 16,816
Jan 22, 2012 7:18pm
1_beast;1062378 wrote:Nah...just means you have started to recognize common sense!
Or I have lost my mind
1_beast
Posts: 5,642
Jan 22, 2012 10:03pm
Never really thought that you had much of one to lose....THE4RINGZ;1062380 wrote:Or I have lost my mind
Hope this helps!
Bloody Toothbrush
Posts: 320
Jan 22, 2012 10:30pm
Speech & Debate Team?THE4RINGZ;1061731 wrote:Yes congratulations riders. If you attended the tournament yesterday, you also had an opportunity to be around the Wooster Speech and Debate team as they had their annual tournament at home as well. that has to be a win-win for some in attendance.
If you really want a win-win situation.....
have a tournament where people with speech impediments debate!!!
That might actually be fun to watch
THE4RINGZ
Posts: 16,816
Jan 22, 2012 10:32pm
Which begs the somewhat rhetorical question...Bloody Toothbrush;1062691 wrote:Speech & Debate Team?
If you really want a win-win situation.....
have a tournament where people with speech impediments debate!!!
That might actually be fun to watch
Why does the word "lisp" have an S in it??????
1_beast
Posts: 5,642
Jan 22, 2012 10:35pm
THE4RINGZ;1062696 wrote:Which begs the somewhat rhetorical question...
Why does the word "lisp" have an S in it??????
THE4RINGZ
Posts: 16,816
Jan 22, 2012 10:37pm
1_beast;1062707 wrote:
Exactly
Bloody Toothbrush
Posts: 320
Jan 22, 2012 10:59pm
speaking of lisps.....
Michael Strahan is now speaking the SF/NYG postgame show.
Maybe you could get him to say gullible real slow.
On the topic of DR coverage.....
I thought it was pretty good. Basic results on 3 tournaments and interviews with the coaches......
not to mention I didn't even have to buy the paper
That truly is a win-win situation
And Srock vs Kelbly.......I'm going Srock.
Michael Strahan is now speaking the SF/NYG postgame show.
Maybe you could get him to say gullible real slow.
On the topic of DR coverage.....
I thought it was pretty good. Basic results on 3 tournaments and interviews with the coaches......
not to mention I didn't even have to buy the paper
That truly is a win-win situation
And Srock vs Kelbly.......I'm going Srock.