ohiobucks1;788629 wrote:You have a very simple view of this situation. The fact is, once Wexner changed his mind. Tressel was donezo

thedynasty1998;788632 wrote:I have no idea what you are trying to say in your previous posts.

enigmaax;788646 wrote:Also according to his account, Tressel was given the ultimatum to step down or be fired (killing the "he did it on his own for the good of program" theory).

queencitybuckeye;788650 wrote:Whether stated or not, do people really believe this was not the case?

queencitybuckeye;788650 wrote:Whether stated or not, do people really believe this was not the case?

enigmaax;788708 wrote:I don't know if there's anyone left on this site who still buys that, but I have seen posts other places even today talking about how Tressel did the right thing by stepping down.

enigmaax;788646 wrote:I think he is saying, one these guys - Shumate, Jurgensen, Mitchell and Schottenstein - personally told ohiobucks1 how it all unfolded in the meeting. And according to his account, Wexner wasn't there (or on the committee) but had shifted his support and that contributed to the group's (listed above) decision. Also according to his account, Tressel was given the ultimatum to step down or be fired (killing the "he did it on his own for the good of program" theory).

Accurate?

enigmaax;788708 wrote:I don't know if there's anyone left on this site who still buys that, but I have seen posts other places even today talking about how Tressel did the right thing by stepping down.

OneBuckeye;789727 wrote:http://www.vindy.com/news/2011/jun/02/cochran-calls-quote-8216fabricated8217-s/

Former YSU president claiming his quote was fabricated. This SI story has becomes more of a joke every day.

WebFire;789737 wrote:What do you expect these people to say? I'm not saying it wasn't fabricated, but at the same time, these people were already covering stuff up, so they aren't just going to come out and say "yup, that happened."

OneBuckeye;789741 wrote:The SI guy interviewed the YSU president, its not like he didn't expect to be quoted in SI, he just didn't expect the report to quote him saying something he apparently didn't say... so one of them is lying. The YSU guy is retired in florida, he doesn't have anything to cover up. Just thought it was interesting article.

WebFire;789745 wrote:Yes it is interesting. I just find it hard to believe he would just flat out make something up and publish it in one of the biggest sports publications in the world. It didn't even add much to the story, since the YSU stuff is really irrelevant anyway. Why take such a career risk?

LJ;789746 wrote:He already took a huge risk by publishing the names of college athletes with no evidence other than the word of "ellis" and a felon.

"What would Woody (Hayes) think of this whole fiasco?" Nicklaus was asked.

"I think Woody would have ended up doing exactly the same thing," he replied, "but I think that maybe he wouldn't have had a news media that, no matter what happens, (it) gets on the news. That's not an indictment of anybody, it's just what it is.

"I think Woody would have protected his kids. He probably did protect his kids. Woody was a good man. I think Tressel is a good man."

Nicklaus said what Tressel did was "no different than a father trying to protect his son."

"Well, obviously, the coverup was far worse than the act," Nicklaus said. "And once you got the coverup, it became a situation where Jim had to say some things that weren't exactly truthful. That's where he got himself in trouble.

"I feel very bad for Jim. He's a nice man."

vball10set;789750 wrote:Webbie, you DO know that the SI story will eventually be refuted to the point of irrelevance...anyway, here is the GOAT golfer's take on Coach Tressel:

http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/sports/stories/2011/06/01/nicklaus-tressel-is-a-good-man.html?sid=101

WebFire;789747 wrote:Perhaps, but then again he at least has sources. Whether they prove to be good sources or not, he can always say "well so-and-so told me" and it falls on them.

WebFire;789755 wrote:If it is, I'm fine with it. My point being that you can't discredit just whoever fits your argument. I guess at this point, Buckeye fans are choosing to believe anything that sheds good light on them, and OSU-haters are choosing to believe whichever side sheds negative light.My personal stance is NOT hoping they were cheating so they get hammered, but rather that I hope they get hammered IF they were cheating.

LJ;789760 wrote:It doesn't fall on them. He is the one that didn't do enough due dilligence if a bunch of it turns out to be bogus. He is the one that will be named in the lawsuits for putting it into print.

vball10set;789763 wrote:I agree, but you can't blame me for hoping that most of these allegations are exaggerated, can you?

WebFire;789765 wrote:No, not all. The only problem I have is either side taking things as fact that favor their side of the story. Both sides are guilty of doing so.

thedynasty1998;789772 wrote:Do you think Tressel was protecting his kids? Of protecting his hopes of winning a NC?

thedynasty1998;789772 wrote:Do you think Tressel was protecting his kids? Of protecting his hopes of winning a NC?