sleeper;1058648 wrote:If Paul drops out, we are f'd. I hope he runs third party.

bases_loaded;1058672 wrote:If he runs third party we are f'd.

sleeper;1058648 wrote:If Paul drops out, we are f'd. I hope he runs third party.

sleeper;1058674 wrote:Only if he doesn't win.

Con_Alma;1058685 wrote:He won't. It would damage the future opportunities in the Republican Party for his son.

bases_loaded;1058686 wrote:He wont. He can't win without the republican vote.

Con_Alma;1058685 wrote:He won't. It would damage the future opportunities in the Republican Party for his son.

sleeper;1058648 wrote:If Paul drops out, we are f'd. I hope he runs third party.

bases_loaded;1058523 wrote:Hermain Cain takes a lead...media destroys him.

Rick Perry takes a lead....media destroys him.

Newt takes a lead...media destroys him, but Newt rebounds and inches closer...media prepares to drop a nuke.

It's clear who the media/repub party wants here.

Tobias Fünke;1058751 wrote:Hermain Cain would have been a pathetic President. I really like the guy and hope he runs for Senator or something because I like what he's all about, but let's be honest he was political amateur who couldn't come close to handling the heat or answering questions about anything other than being a Pizza CEO.

Rick Perry is a horrible public speaker and used way too many southern platitudes. Honestly I think he is an egotistical hack and is the embodiment of the stereotypical politician who again is miserably uninformed on a lit of national issues. I like him as a governor, but he was simply exposed.

Newt Gingrich has always had a love/hate relationship with the American people. He says a lot of great things and is generally one of the most knowledgeable guys on intra-Washington affairs and policies...but holy hell he says a lot of inflammatory things and gets what he deserves. I have serious doubts that he could make it through the general election without having "gotcha politics" fuck him over big time. He just doesn't have the tact to be a media darling.

I think all of what I just said is fair.

Tobias Fünke;1058751 wrote:Hermain Cain would have been a pathetic President. I really like the guy and hope he runs for Senator or something because I like what he's all about, but let's be honest he was political amateur who couldn't come close to handling the heat or answering questions about anything other than being a Pizza CEO.

Rick Perry is a horrible public speaker and used way too many southern platitudes. Honestly I think he is an egotistical hack and is the embodiment of the stereotypical politician who again is miserably uninformed on a lit of national issues. I like him as a governor, but he was simply exposed.

Newt Gingrich has always had a love/hate relationship with the American people. He says a lot of great things and is generally one of the most knowledgeable guys on intra-Washington affairs and policies...but holy hell he says a lot of inflammatory things and gets what he deserves. I have serious doubts that he could make it through the general election without having "gotcha politics" **** him over big time. He just doesn't have the tact to be a media darling.

I think all of what I just said is fair.

Manhattan Buckeye;1058357 wrote:Do you think Obama can carry Virginia again (NO WAY), or Ohio? Forget the media and the concentration on the OWS losers, the people that have a stake will vote, will talk to their friends and co-workers about voting and will show up in November. This is the most important election in my lifetime. We're voting absentee (in Virginia) but are doing what we can here. We don't know a single Obama voter...and again we're ex-pats where the typical American is a DEM. Everyone hates him.

BGFalcons82;1058864 wrote:I think you've brought up a very salient point. This is a race to 270 Electoral College votes. It is not a national popularity contest wherein the Left Coast and Northeast Elites can tell the other 40 or so states what is best for them. A detailed look at the Electoral Map is crucial to determine whom will be taking the oath on 1-20-2013. The swing states are huge and nearly all of them were captured by Obama in 2008, so he has much more to defend than the R candidate. We must keep a sharp eye on the individual state battles and fuhgetabout any national polls, as difficult as that is to do.

sleeper;1058591 wrote:Good, maybe they'll give Paul more debate time tonight. It seems every question is given to Romney.

sleeper;1058674 wrote:Only if he doesn't win.

jhay78;1058887 wrote:Which leads me to believe this is why he hasn't attacked Romney very much if at all. His campaign is drilling everyone else with the hopes that Romney gets the nomination, and thus all the people who hate Obama but are not excited about Romney will vote third party. Recipe for disaster. But I don't think Ron Paul and his followers really care. If he cared about this country's future, or the Republican nomination, he would go after Romney like we all want him to. Instead I think he has other motives.

Newt Gingrich led Mitt Romney 34-28 in PPP's South Carolina polling last night, the first of what will be three nights of tracking. Ron Paul at 15%, Rick Santorum at 14%, Rick Perry at 5%, and Buddy Roemer at 3% round out the field.

jhay78;1058887 wrote: Not only would he not win, he'd be lucky to get 15% of the popular vote. Ross Perot in '92 got 18% of the popular vote, but won zero states. Even an immensely popular former president Teddy Roosevelt only got 27% in 1912. Both did well enough to foul things up and ensure Woodrow Wilson and Bill Clinton won. A Ron Paul 3rd party bid would do more for Obama's reelection than anything else. And like a typical politician (like many of y'all claim he's not), Paul refuses to rule out a 3rd party bid, only saying he "has no plans to run 3rd party".

majorspark;1059027 wrote:As president Gingrich says he wants an open Constitution.

Little Danny;1059053 wrote:According to his ex-wife, he wanted an open marriage as well.