tcarrier32;776264 wrote:What does it matter what his political views are? He's not trying to destroy the country, he is attempting to fix the problems that he sees. He believes that two people convicted of murdering police officers are innocent, and he draws inspiration from their stories. This was hardly an issue before Obama was elected, its hilarious that it becomes a big no-no once he steps into office.

If you don't see the difference between this guy as just another looney musician and getting an audience at the White House I can't help you.

Like I said, the White House is not a nightclub. If you don't see an inherent problem with resources going to such egomaniacal/PR bullshit again, I can't help you.

I agree Nugent wanting someone to shoot Obama is overboard but where is a clip of him saying something racist? I'm intrigued by that.

bigdaddy2003;776374 wrote:I agree Nugent wanting someone to shoot Obama is overboard but where is a clip of him saying something racist? I'm intrigued by that.

fast forward to :45
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1e4L_ghwjU

i'm sure he was just misquoted...

gut;776265 wrote:If you don't see the difference between this guy as just another looney musician and getting an audience at the White House I can't help you.

Like I said, the White House is not a nightclub. If you don't see an inherent problem with resources going to such egomaniacal/PR bullshit again, I can't help you.

I don't need help, but thanks for trying? If you don't understand that far worse things command a much higher waster of taxpayer dollars literally everyday, then I can't help you. I see the problem, just dont think its sometime i need to cry about, then again im not a child.

gut;776265 wrote:If you don't see the difference between this guy as just another looney musician and getting an audience at the White House I can't help you.

Like I said, the White House is not a nightclub. If you don't see an inherent problem with resources going to such egomaniacal/PR bullshit again, I can't help you.

Why were you not upset at all the other "looney musicians" that have gotten audiences at the White House? Why are you only now getting upset about this?

I hate Stewart only because he is going to make fun of anyone as he is a funny man yet people seem to view his show as educational. HE IS A COMEDIAN and a horrible one at that so of course he is going to have the quick answers and try to make people laugh, that's his job.

I'd say Stewarts show is a bit more educational than some other "news" programs.

As for the topic at hand..... just another thing to add to the endless list of retarded shit people will argue over.

tcarrier32;776384 wrote: I don't need help, but thanks for trying? If you don't understand that far worse things command a much higher waster of taxpayer dollars literally everyday, then I can't help you. I see the problem, just dont think its sometime i need to cry about, then again im not a child.

LOL, yeah that attitude is what has gotten this country where it is. I didn't start this thread. I didn't come on here whining about people who think this is wrong and/or a waste. You see the problem, but feel no need to cry about it but DO feel a need to cry about those who are. That's just retarded.

I Wear Pants;776387 wrote:Why were you not upset at all the other "looney musicians" that have gotten audiences at the White House? Why are you only now getting upset about this?

When someone starts a thread on it, maybe i will comment. And go back and read my posts...I already said it's a waste for any of these people to be going to the White House, regardless of their political views. I'm starting to understand the mentality that got this moron elected in the first place.

gut;776538 wrote:LOL, yeah that attitude is what has gotten this country where it is. I didn't start this thread. I didn't come on here whining about people who think this is wrong and/or a waste. You see the problem, but feel no need to cry about it but DO feel a need to cry about those who are. That's just retarded.

What attitude? That a poetry reading at the white house isn't a big deal? Spending is our greatest problem, but I hardly think this little gathering set the country back. Looking at last years budget, I'd say this was the least of our worries. I'm beginning to understand the mentality that got a kid with a learning disability elected from 2000-2008.

Discretionary spending: $1.378 trillion (+13.8%)
$663.7 billion (+12.7%) – Department of Defense (including Overseas Contingency Operations)
$78.7 billion (−1.7%) – Department of Health and Human Services
$72.5 billion (+2.8%) – Department of Transportation
$52.5 billion (+10.3%) – Department of Veterans Affairs
$51.7 billion (+40.9%) – Department of State and Other International Programs
$47.5 billion (+18.5%) – Department of Housing and Urban Development
$46.7 billion (+12.8%) – Department of Education
$42.7 billion (+1.2%) – Department of Homeland Security
$26.3 billion (−0.4%) – Department of Energy
$26.0 billion (+8.8%) – Department of Agriculture
$23.9 billion (−6.3%) – Department of Justice
$18.7 billion (+5.1%) – National Aeronautics and Space Administration
$13.8 billion (+48.4%) – Department of Commerce
$13.3 billion (+4.7%) – Department of Labor
$13.3 billion (+4.7%) – Department of the Treasury
$12.0 billion (+6.2%) – Department of the Interior
$10.5 billion (+34.6%) – Environmental Protection Agency
$9.7 billion (+10.2%) – Social Security Administration
$7.0 billion (+1.4%) – National Science Foundation
$5.1 billion (−3.8%) – Corps of Engineers
$5.0 billion (+100%-NA) – National Infrastructure Bank
$1.1 billion (+22.2%) – Corporation for National and Community Service
$0.7 billion (0.0%) – Small Business Administration
$0.6 billion (−14.3%) – General Services Administration
$0 billion (−100%-NA) – Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP)
$0 billion (−100%-NA) – Financial stabilization efforts
$11 billion (+275%-NA) – Potential disaster costs
$19.8 billion (+3.7%) – Other Agencies
$105 billion – Other

Stewart's show is more educational than "news" programs? Stop it. It is if you are a liberal maybe but not for an independent like myself.

Stewarts show is not as educational as the other news programs no, but Stewart himself is just as educated as the dumbasses on fox news ect . He happens to also be funny so he cashes in on it

tcarrier32;776591 wrote:What attitude? That a poetry reading at the white house isn't a big deal? Spending is our greatest problem, but I hardly think this little gathering set the country back. Looking at last years budget, I'd say this was the least of our worries. I'm beginning to understand the mentality that got a kid with a learning disability elected from 2000-2008.

It's a mentality and discipline. The same idiots that blow money on this event are the same ones spending all that money on the budget. I'm sorry that such a rather simple point continues to elude your mental comprehension. I don't think you have any appreciation for what $10k here, $100k there adds up to. See it all the time in budget discussions "ohhh, that doesn't move the needle". I doubt a single person here wouldn't plug a hole in their pocket because they are only dropping a few bucks in change out of it a day. People who lack fiscal discipline aren't going to fix the budget, that's part of the point (the other is, again, the Obama's are not running a nightclub).

I understand the events that led to Obama getting elected. What is truly amazing is that some people actually appear poised to vote for him again. Time to let this moron get on with what he loves and does best - giving speeches, going on tv, and rubbing elbows with celebs.

bo shemmy3337;776504 wrote:I hate Stewart only because he is going to make fun of anyone as he is a funny man yet people seem to view his show as educational. HE IS A COMEDIAN and a horrible one at that so of course he is going to have the quick answers and try to make people laugh, that's his job.

People view his show as educational and news much like people confuse O'Reilly, Hannity, Olbermann, Maddow, etc as authentic news and not as the "entertainers" that they truly are.

Hb31187;776674 wrote:Stewarts show is not as educational as the other news programs no, but Stewart himself is just as educated as the dumbasses on fox news ect . He happens to also be funny so he cashes in on it

So Stewart is a funny dumbass?

GoPens;776716 wrote:People view his show as educational and news much like people confuse O'Reilly, Hannity, Olbermann, Maddow, etc as authentic news and not as the "entertainers" that they truly are.

That was the point of my post. Thank you.

He is taken a little less seriously than the others mentioned though simply because he is on Comedy Central.

gut;776678 wrote:It's a mentality and discipline. The same idiots that blow money on this event are the same ones spending all that money on the budget. I'm sorry that such a rather simple point continues to elude your mental comprehension. I don't think you have any appreciation for what $10k here, $100k there adds up to. See it all the time in budget discussions "ohhh, that doesn't move the needle". I doubt a single person here wouldn't plug a hole in their pocket because they are only dropping a few bucks in change out of it a day. People who lack fiscal discipline aren't going to fix the budget, that's part of the point (the other is, again, the Obama's are not running a nightclub).

I understand the events that led to Obama getting elected. What is truly amazing is that some people actually appear poised to vote for him again. Time to let this moron get on with what he loves and does best - giving speeches, going on tv, and rubbing elbows with celebs.

Except for the math disagrees with your point. Your insinuation that all these little spending things that are worthless (which I agree on some but on others I wonder, again, why some of you never had a problem with presidents vacationing or having poets/musicians over, etc until Obama) adds up to a large chunck of why we're in debt is incorrect. All these little things add up to a very little thing. The problems are SS, Medicare/Medicaid, and Defense Spending. It's just math.

Common got an invite cuz he's black.

Steel Valley Football;776936 wrote:Common got an invite cuz he's black.

Obama is white.

gut;776678 wrote:It's a mentality and discipline. The same idiots that blow money on this event are the same ones spending all that money on the budget. I'm sorry that such a rather simple point continues to elude your mental comprehension. I don't think you have any appreciation for what $10k here, $100k there adds up to. See it all the time in budget discussions "ohhh, that doesn't move the needle". I doubt a single person here wouldn't plug a hole in their pocket because they are only dropping a few bucks in change out of it a day. People who lack fiscal discipline aren't going to fix the budget, that's part of the point (the other is, again, the Obama's are not running a nightclub).

I understand the events that led to Obama getting elected. What is truly amazing is that some people actually appear poised to vote for him again. Time to let this moron get on with what he loves and does best - giving speeches, going on tv, and rubbing elbows with celebs.

lets not doubt mental comprehension. i highly doubt you'd want to insult me on academic grounds because we disagree that a poetry reading may or may not be bankrupting the country. I understand that, overtime, small and frequent expenses will add up to a lot, but not nearly as much as we blow every year on rather ineffective measures. I apologize that you don't understand that far more expensive/controversial measures float over your head without you realizing it, yet you feel the need to make a big shit on this issue.

http://www.drugsense.org/cms/wodclock

im pretty sure that clock will keep counting for you, just so you know how much our government is wasting on a failed initiative that only "loony liberals" have the balls to address. It's a rather simple fix, yet you "fiscally responsible" republicans have absolutely nothing to say to say for it. Just insubstantial rhetoric and nonsense, much like the opposition to Common at the White House.

It's a god damn poetry slam set up by the first lady. This isn't the first, nor will be the last, musicians/poetry/artists' event at the WH...fuckin' let it go people.

derek bomar;777053 wrote:Obama is white.

That is irrelevant.

bigdaddy2003;776846 wrote:He is taken a little less seriously than the others mentioned though simply because he is on Comedy Central.

really? have any proof? because I honestly believe a lot of smart people on both sides of the debate take him as seriously (if not more so) than hacks on either Fox or MSNBC.

Steel Valley Football;777343 wrote:That is irrelevant.

no it's not

derek bomar;777358 wrote:no it's not

Explain why it's relevant.