coyotes22;760976 wrote:Obama DID NOT give the all go order. He was bypassed.
http://newsflavor.com/politics/us-politics/did-senior-militaryintelligence-officials-overrule-president-obama-regarding-mission-to-kill-osama-bin-laden/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1383010/Osama-Bin-Laden-dead-Obama-took-16-hours-make-mind.html
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Automatik;761084 wrote:According to my readings Obama was heavily involved in the planning of the mission and met with security advisors several times. Also rejected bombing the compound to reduce casualties.
Automatik;761084 wrote:According to my readings Obama was heavily involved in the planning of the mission and met with security advisors several times. Also rejected bombing the compound to reduce casualties.
Pick6;761093 wrote:I've read/heard the same on the news. Lets not tell coyotes and password that though!! Lets let him use articles that cant even type out full names.
password;761111 wrote:I wish Obama and the White House would make their minds up, They claimed in the beginning that they did not want to bomb the house because they would not know if the killed Bin Laden. First the reports were that Bin Laden was in a fire fight with the seals and even used one of his wifes as a shield but then the story changed and said that he was not armed and didn't resist or use his wife as a shield, Looks like they can't decide what happened either!
Heretic;761142 wrote:This thread reminds me of the "Bush was behind 9/11" shit. The most overly partisan people coming up with the most insane ideas (without viable sources) for the sole intent of discrediting any possible good will or sympathy for the incumbent president. There's no logic at all -- just an immature refusal to admit that even for one moment, the guy in the other party might have handled something even remotely correctly.
Heretic;761142 wrote:This thread reminds me of the "Bush was behind 9/11" shit. The most overly partisan people coming up with the most insane ideas (without viable sources) for the sole intent of discrediting any possible good will or sympathy for the incumbent president. There's no logic at all -- just an immature refusal to admit that even for one moment, the guy in the other party might have handled something even remotely correctly.
You ever play liar poker with a five dollar bills or a buck?I Wear Pants;761216 wrote:How is how they're handling the release of information "wrong"?
I Wear Pants;761266 wrote:Saying they got those items reveals nothing to anyone that could do anything about it.
Belly35;761265 wrote:You ever play liar poker with a five dollar bills or a buck?
You don't tell what you have, you tell what you don't have or keep you low key to see what the other player will or will not expose. The idea is to wait and see and learn from the other and the information you can get before revealing out your true numbers and taking the prize of the surprise.
The public does not need to know "now" what was gathered, money, harddrives, documents or phone numbers .... This administration can not help itself from patting itself on the back and toting the 'look at what we did". Community organizer mentality …
Oh! IWP I thank you for following my threads and post ...little creepy
coyotes22;761274 wrote:I agree that we should have just not said anything, and let the rest of the terrorist world think that OBL is still alive.
Belly35;761286 wrote:Low key .. when in killed Osama, got out....that all the world needs to know and that all the other terrorist need to know...for now
Let put this in simplest terms.... The Obama Administration is in a campaign mode and has been for the past two years, anything and everything no matter want will be evaluated with the mentality of 2012 election as a factor. The benefits of making Obama look good in this time of $4.00 plus gallon gas, unemployment at 9% plus, additional economic problems, boarder and immigration issue, black chamber of commerce comments and the continuing failure of the socialist agenda …. Was always part of the equation?coyotes22;761288 wrote:But I feel that we could have kept it quiet. I think this was publicized because 2012 is around the corner.
Belly35;761199 wrote:This special operation was not the brain trust of one individual. The Community Organizer along with others more intensely involved in this mission was the determining factors in the process to proceed forward. Obama had no option but to agree with the experts and data.
So, you're saying that Obama was essentially just along for the ride in the first quoted post and then saying his administration carefully designed all this to help his campaigning in the second. Yep, you do make about as much sense as the people who were trying to say Bush was the real mastermind behind 9/11, while also regularly bashing him for a perceived lack of intelligence.Belly35;761295 wrote:Let put this in simplest terms.... The Obama Administration is in a campaign mode and has been for the past two years, anything and everything no matter want will be evaluated with the mentality of 2012 election as a factor. The benefits of making Obama look good in this time of $4.00 plus gallon gas, unemployment at 9% plus, additional economic problems, boarder and immigration issue, black chamber of commerce comments and the continuing failure of the socialist agenda …. Was always part of the equation?
Heretic;761444 wrote:So, you're saying that Obama was essentially just along for the ride in the first quoted post and then saying his administration carefully designed all this to help his campaigning in the second.
gut;761460 wrote:I don't necessarily agree with that take, but I don't think it's contradictory to say he was "along for the ride" and that the administration is then manipulating perception for maximum political benefit. Image is one thing that Obama understands and does better than anything. It might even be the only thing he excels at.
And it's not just Obama. There's an epidemic in Washington of politicians who seem capable only of reacting to exploit opportunity rather than proactively achieving anything of value.
