justincredible;760738 wrote:Off topic, my grandmother's longhorn cattle are from Ollie North's herd.

That is all.

BR1986FB;760741 wrote:Well if he's untrustworthy you may not be getting legit $2.35/lb beef...

coyotes22;760615 wrote:1. Obama took 16 hours to "think" about the go ahead call, to take out Osama.

2. Obama, after taking 16 hours to think, gave a "no go" call.

3. It was the military that went ahead and did the operation ANYWAY, after Obama was told that "we have him, we are taking him".

Also, Osama was "unarmed", yet he was shot to death. Which goes against all rules of war. Now, dont get me wrong, Im glad he (Osama) is gone, but does this open the door, for America to just "take out" anyone we deem a threat to the US? If so, I say we start bombing Iran, Cuba, Venazuala, etc, etc.

Obama= Epic Fail

BR1986FB;760741 wrote:Well if he's untrustworthy you may not be getting legit $2.35/lb beef...

queencitybuckeye;760755 wrote:You're saying Navy Seals executed a mission when specifically given an order not to by the Commander in Chief? Didn't happen, doesn't happen.

queencitybuckeye;760755 wrote:You're saying Navy Seals executed a mission when specifically given an order not to by the Commander in Chief? Didn't happen, doesn't happen.

queencitybuckeye;760755 wrote:You're saying Navy Seals executed a mission when specifically given an order not to by the Commander in Chief? Didn't happen, doesn't happen.

queencitybuckeye;760755 wrote:You're saying Navy Seals executed a mission when specifically given an order not to by the Commander in Chief? Didn't happen, doesn't happen.

coyotes22;760615 wrote:1. Obama took 16 hours to "think" about the go ahead call, to take out Osama.

2. Obama, after taking 16 hours to think, gave a "no go" call.

3. It was the military that went ahead and did the operation ANYWAY, after Obama was told that "we have him, we are taking him".

Also, Osama was "unarmed", yet he was shot to death. Which goes against all rules of war. Now, dont get me wrong, Im glad he (Osama) is gone, but does this open the door, for America to just "take out" anyone we deem a threat to the US? If so, I say we start bombing Iran, Cuba, Venazuala, etc, etc.

Obama= Epic Fail

Tobias Fünke;760631 wrote:Source? How could he have been following it in real time if that were the case?

sherm03;760770 wrote:This.


Also, if you're not willing to give Obama at least some credit for this, then you cannot blame him for anything that goes wrong either.

password;760891 wrote:That seems to be one of the problem with Obama, he only wants to take credit for the good things but always wants to blame the past administration for everything that is wrong.

coyotes22;760615 wrote: Also, Osama was "unarmed", yet he was shot to death. Which goes against all rules of war. Now, dont get me wrong, Im glad he (Osama) is gone, but does this open the door, for America to just "take out" anyone we deem a threat to the US? If so, I say we start bombing Iran, Cuba, Venazuala, etc, etc.

Did Senior Military/Intelligence Officials Overrule President Obama Regarding Mission to Kill Osama Bin Laden?

A reluctant American president who was ultimately overridden by senior military and intelligence officials to finally take out terrorist Osama Bin Laden…

Note: This communication came from our long time D.C. Insider and details previous and ongoing conflicts surrounding the decision to assassinate terrorist Osama Bin Laden. This has been reproduced here as originally communicated to us.

Please get this out ASAP. Want specific people to know we know.
RE Osama Bin Laden. Significant push to take him out months ago. Senior WH staff resisted. This was cause of much strain between HC and Obama/Jarrett. HC and LP were in constant communication over matter – both attempted to convince administration to act. Administration feared failure and resulting negative impact on president. Intel disgusted over politics over national security. Staff resigned/left. Check timeline to corroborate.

Now Intel already leaking to media facts surrounding how info obtained. Namely from enhanced interrogation efforts via GITMO prisoners. Obama administration placed in corner on this. Some media aware of danger to president RE this and attempting protection. Others looking for further investigation. We are pushing for them to follow through and already meeting with some access.
Point of determination made FOR Obama not BY Obama. Will clarify as details become more clear. Very clear divide between Military and WH. Jarrett marginalized 100% on decision to take out OBL. She played no part. BD worked with LP and HC to form coalition to force CoC to engage.

IMPORTANT SPECIFIC: When 48 hour go order issued, CoC was told, not requested. Administration scrambled to abort. That order was overruled. This order did not originate from CoC. Repeat – this order did not originate from CoC. He complied, but did not originate.
Independent military contacts have confirmed. Stories corroborate one another. This is legit.
The killing of Osama Bin Laden was in fact a Coup within Obama WH.
Speaking with additional contacts RE info.
Stay safe.
________________
HC = Hillary Clinton
BD = Bill Daley
LP = Leon Panetta
CoC = Chain of Command/Commander in Chief

Barack Obama kept military commanders hanging by declaring he would 'sleep on it' before taking 16 hours to give the go-ahead to raid Bin Laden's compound.
Hit squads of specialist Navy Seals - who were not even told who they were preparing to capture - had practised the mission at two reconstructions of the terror chiefs sprawling compound.
The mission looked set to be given the all clear last Thursday when analysts confirmed beyond doubt that Bin Laden was in busy town of Abbottabad in northern Pakistan.

Tiger2003;760915 wrote:The fuck it does. All ROE are different. While I was in the 2nd push our ROE was who ever was in the town was hostel, weapon or not.

Then during a different deployment our ROE was if they had a weapon they were hostel if they didn't you can't touch them.

Then during another deployment even if they had a weapon they were not considered hostel unless they pointed the weapon or shot at you.

So before you come on running your mouth about the Rules of War know the facts before posting them.

sherm03;760904 wrote:That's the problem with EVERY president. Nobody is going to take the blame when something goes bad (i.e. Bush blaming the slipping economy on Clinton).

coyotes22;760980 wrote:Im not "running" my mouth. Im saying, that this has opened the door, for us to just do what we want,,,,,,, In the eyes of the rest of the world. And, quite frankly, Im glad. Maybe the rest of the world, will think twice, before fucking with us. Screw ROE, I think we need to start bombing the shit out of some of these dickhead dictators around the world. But this President, would rather sit down, hold hands, and "talk" it out. That is not how you defeat dictators. You chop their fucking head off, and show their "followers" that we mean fucking bidness!!!!!!!!!!

coyotes22;760976 wrote:Obama DID NOT give the all go order. He was bypassed.

http://newsflavor.com/politics/us-politics/did-senior-militaryintelligence-officials-overrule-president-obama-regarding-mission-to-kill-osama-bin-laden/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1383010/Osama-Bin-Laden-dead-Obama-took-16-hours-make-mind.html


Password: Yes, 104.7fm

CenterBHSFan;760984 wrote:Well, Clinton DID admit some responsibility concerning FM/FM. But it was pried out of him, nevertheless lol.

coyotes22;760989 wrote:You cant bring facts to the table. What are you thinking!!!

sherm03;760990 wrote:True. Apparently you have to bring biased articles with no source to the table.