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Jun 23, 2011 8:16 PM
ohiobucks1;811520 wrote:I'd love to have Jonas V and Irving. Imagine the pick and rolls those two could run in the future

I'm just not high on Jonas V...

I'd rather have a guy who will on the Cavs THIS year growing with the team, not a guy who may not even join the team for two years.
Jun 23, 2011 4:16pm
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Jun 23, 2011 8:24 PM
BR1986FB;811483 wrote:This is a post that I'm quoting from RCF's "Bruce Drennan said his sources said the deal with Sacramento is Sessions+Cash+32 for #7 and Garcia. He also said we could flip Thompson at #7 to Charlotte for #9 and 19"

I've now read, at RCF and through some tweets that it is the Bucks trading up for #7. Haven't seen details just some speculation
Jun 23, 2011 4:24pm
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Jun 23, 2011 8:34 PM
All I am going to say is that 99.9% of us cannot comment on either Kanter and Jonas, as we haven't seen enough of them to even make comments.

I am going to stick with what Grant and Gilbert select and back them 100%.
Jun 23, 2011 4:34pm
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Jun 23, 2011 8:35 PM
Chad Ford: Deal: Bucks get Beno, Stephen Jackson 9 & 19. Bobcats get pick 7 & Maggette. Kings get 10 & John Salmons
Jun 23, 2011 4:35pm
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Jun 23, 2011 8:38 PM
devil1197;811584 wrote:Chad Ford: Deal: Bucks get Beno, Stephen Jackson 9 & 19. Bobcats get pick 7 & Maggette. Kings get 10 & John Salmons

So the Kings sent out #7, Beno Udrih and received John Salmons and the #10? Didn't the Kings just have Salmons not too long ago? and wasn't he bad last year? And they go from looking for a pg to trading one away? They seem to have a glut of average wings, and just added another one.

Odds they take Jimmer w/ #10?


Chad Ford is updating that the Bobcats kept the #9 pick
Jun 23, 2011 4:38pm
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Jun 23, 2011 9:00 PM
Wooball;811566 wrote:I've now read, at RCF and through some tweets that it is the Bucks trading up for #7. Haven't seen details just some speculation

SMH, WKNR strikes again. They're a joke as a news source.
Jun 23, 2011 5:00pm
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Jun 23, 2011 9:46 PM
Wooball;811587 wrote:So the Kings sent out #7, Beno Udrih and received John Salmons and the #10? Didn't the Kings just have Salmons not too long ago? and wasn't he bad last year? And they go from looking for a pg to trading one away? They seem to have a glut of average wings, and just added another one.

Odds they take Jimmer w/ #10?


Chad Ford is updating that the Bobcats kept the #9 pick

Sac could trade that #10 pick for Tony Parker as well.
Jun 23, 2011 5:46pm
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Jun 23, 2011 10:28 PM
Still be shocked if the Cavs aren't wheeling & dealing tonight...
Jun 23, 2011 6:28pm
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Jun 23, 2011 10:29 PM
BR1986FB;811660 wrote:Still be shocked if the Cavs aren't wheeling & dealing tonight...

Agreed
Jun 23, 2011 6:29pm
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Jun 23, 2011 10:39 PM
This draft got to be bittersweet for Cleveland. They get the #1 and #4 picks but many are saying how weak the draft is this year. Of course we really don't know until we see how the players pan out. Can you imagine if some of the big names in College would have came out and the Cavs selecting Harrison Barnes #1 and Jared Sullinger #4? That would have been scary!

I'm not so sure about Kyrie as a #1 pick. Yes it has become what you would call a 'point guard league' but other teams got very good point guards that would cancel him out in my opinion. It's not as if he is something teams never seen before. But then again who else do you take?
Jun 23, 2011 6:39pm
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Jun 23, 2011 10:50 PM
mallymal614;811667 wrote: But then again who else do you take?

This is pretty much it, imo. I think Irving will be a "good" PG but do I think he'll be "superstar good" like a Rose or CP3? No...but like you said "who else do you take?" He is the best player in what looks like a very weak draft. If Harrison Barnes comes out, we probably aren't even uttering Irving's name.
Jun 23, 2011 6:50pm
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Jun 23, 2011 10:52 PM
Give me Irving and kanter over Barnes and sullinger
Jun 23, 2011 6:52pm
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Jun 23, 2011 10:54 PM
SportsAndLady;811677 wrote:Give me Irving and kanter over Barnes and sullinger

Yeah, love sully, but I don't like him as a pro.
Jun 23, 2011 6:54pm
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Jun 23, 2011 10:56 PM
I don't think I'd necessarily take Sullinger at #4 but Barnes would be my top pick.
Jun 23, 2011 6:56pm
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Jun 23, 2011 10:58 PM
What times this sucker start
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Jun 23, 2011 10:59 PM
Within two minutes, supposedly...
Jun 23, 2011 6:59pm
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Jun 23, 2011 11:00 PM
7:30 your time
Jun 23, 2011 7:00pm
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Jun 23, 2011 11:01 PM
Damn..I'm planning on going to b dubs to watch this but I still gotta eat at my place and its a ten min drive..might miss both their picks lol may not even go now...fucking hate not having cable yet
Jun 23, 2011 7:01pm
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Jun 23, 2011 11:02 PM
730 would be amazing
Jun 23, 2011 7:02pm
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Jun 23, 2011 11:03 PM
Yea it starts at 7:30. First half hour is all pre draft talk
Jun 23, 2011 7:03pm
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Jun 23, 2011 11:04 PM
So hurry
Jun 23, 2011 7:04pm
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Jun 23, 2011 11:04 PM
My bad...figures ESPN always has to have some buildup.
Jun 23, 2011 7:04pm
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Jun 23, 2011 11:14 PM
RT @CavsDan In draft war room...21 minutes to go and things getting real interesting....Gotta go.....

I'd like to see the Cavs do some wheelin and dealin
Jun 23, 2011 7:14pm
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Jun 23, 2011 11:16 PM
Disregard the comments about the #7 pick. That ship has sailed...

NBA Trade Rumors: Cavaliers Want Tristan Thompson, Seek Third Lottery Pick

The Cleveland Cavaliers hold two picks in the top five for Thursday's NBA draft, but that isn't enough for the team that is really looking to improve.

ESPN's Chad Ford is reporting that the Cavaliers are now seeking a third lottery pick, with the Sacramento Kings (no. 7) and Detroit Pistons (no. 8) as the most likely targets.

Cleveland is expected to draft Kyrie Irving first overall and Lithuanian center Jonas Valanciunas at no. 4, so they' clearly feel that Thompson will be available if they trade back into the top 10 selections.

MUST READ: 9 Potential Biggest Trades on Draft Day

The Cavs would really like to land Derrick Williams in addition to Irving and Valanciunas, but that might not be possible if the T-Wolves are intent on keeping him.

Cleveland's massive $14.5 million trade exception from LeBron James' departure gives them a competitive advantage over others in trade talks, and they plan to use it wisely.

The Cavs can't get much worse than they showed last season, and if they're able to land three lottery selections on Thursday night, it could get a lot better very shortly for the team.
Jun 23, 2011 7:16pm
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Jun 23, 2011 11:25 PM
BR1986FB;811705 wrote:Disregard the comments about the #7 pick. That ship has sailed...

NBA Trade Rumors: Cavaliers Want Tristan Thompson, Seek Third Lottery Pick

The Cleveland Cavaliers hold two picks in the top five for Thursday's NBA draft, but that isn't enough for the team that is really looking to improve.

ESPN's Chad Ford is reporting that the Cavaliers are now seeking a third lottery pick, with the Sacramento Kings (no. 7) and Detroit Pistons (no. 8) as the most likely targets.

Cleveland is expected to draft Kyrie Irving first overall and Lithuanian center Jonas Valanciunas at no. 4, so they' clearly feel that Thompson will be available if they trade back into the top 10 selections.

MUST READ: 9 Potential Biggest Trades on Draft Day

The Cavs would really like to land Derrick Williams in addition to Irving and Valanciunas, but that might not be possible if the T-Wolves are intent on keeping him.

Cleveland's massive $14.5 million trade exception from LeBron James' departure gives them a competitive advantage over others in trade talks, and they plan to use it wisely.

The Cavs can't get much worse than they showed last season, and if they're able to land three lottery selections on Thursday night, it could get a lot better very shortly for the team.

This has to mean that the Cavs are looking to move JJ. I have heard some rumors that he could bring in an unprotected 2012 pick
Jun 23, 2011 7:25pm