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rock_knutne

Mar 17, 2011 8:22 AM
LJ;714915 wrote:You really think that the University doesn't know who his direct boss was? :rolleyes:

They do Sherlock but the POINT is we will never know.
Mar 17, 2011 8:22am
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Mar 17, 2011 8:24 AM
rock_knutne;714942 wrote:They do Sherlock but the POINT is we will never know.

Mar 17, 2011 8:24am
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Mar 17, 2011 8:47 AM
dat dude;714924 wrote:And just some additional info for thought, for those saying its not BK's responsibility, he's the head coach, etc - the following is Tressel's quote before practice the day before the incident:



The Buckeyes ultimately practiced indoors.

That just proves that Tressel thought of it, not that he or Kelly are ultimately responsible for it.
Mar 17, 2011 8:47am
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Mar 17, 2011 8:53 AM
Someone needs fired, because someone was in charge of the lifts and making the descision to use them.
Mar 17, 2011 8:53am
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Mar 17, 2011 10:16 AM
dat dude;714924 wrote:And just some additional info for thought, for those saying its not BK's responsibility, he's the head coach, etc - the following is Tressel's quote before practice the day before the incident:



The Buckeyes ultimately practiced indoors.

That also says the day before and not the day of. I've already posted that it'd be interesting to know when the wind advisory was announced to begin and expire as well as the communication between the camera guys and the AV director. To me, that information would bring a lot more insight then anything about Brian Kelly.
Mar 17, 2011 10:16am
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Mar 17, 2011 10:19 AM
bigkahuna;715025 wrote:That also says the day before and not the day of. I've already posted that it'd be interesting to know when the wind advisory was announced to begin and expire as well as the communication between the camera guys and the AV director. To me, that information would bring a lot more insight then anything about Brian Kelly.

If the wind advisory came out 5 minutes after they went up the lifts it is the responsibility of the direct supervisor to get them down. that part is pretty cut and dry. All that matters is that the wind was too high before he died.
Mar 17, 2011 10:19am
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Mar 17, 2011 11:08 AM
LJ;714915 wrote:You really think that the University doesn't know who his direct boss was? :rolleyes:

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Mar 17, 2011 11:08am
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Mar 17, 2011 11:13 AM
rock_knutne;714941 wrote:Please.......look who's talking about dumb! You may the biggest fucking retard on this board!

Haha rock's in "i'm a retard" denial mode.
Mar 17, 2011 11:13am
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Mar 17, 2011 11:22 AM
LJ;715028 wrote:If the wind advisory came out 5 minutes after they went up the lifts it is the responsibility of the direct supervisor to get them down. that part is pretty cut and dry. All that matters is that the wind was too high before he died.

I still say that they need to investigate the film crew director or w/e his actual title is. Again, JMO, but I would assume that he would have some kind of contact with all of his crews. If he tried to contact Sullivan but couldn't reach him, then is he still liable? I don't know. I just find it hard to believe that NOBODY had contact with him (supervisor wise) around practice time (let's say 2-5 or w/e) given the weather circumstances that day.
Mar 17, 2011 11:22am
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Mar 17, 2011 11:24 AM
bigkahuna;715088 wrote:I still say that they need to investigate the film crew director or w/e his actual title is. Again, JMO, but I would assume that he would have some kind of contact with all of his crews. If he tried to contact Sullivan but couldn't reach him, then is he still liable? I don't know. I just find it hard to believe that NOBODY had contact with him (supervisor wise) around practice time (let's say 2-5 or w/e) given the weather circumstances that day.

There were other people on lifts as well. I am sure OSHA investigated if anyone was contacted and told to get down. I would assume that if they were and Sullivan couldn't be reached that OSHA would not have declared them negligent.
Mar 17, 2011 11:24am
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Mar 17, 2011 11:26 AM
Why can't this be like HS football where you have a coach or a player with a broken arm/ineligible do the filming for you? At least that way you'd know 100% that it's the head coach's responsibility.
Mar 17, 2011 11:26am
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Mar 17, 2011 11:27 AM
LJ;715091 wrote:There were other people on lifts as well. I am sure OSHA investigated if anyone was contacted and told to get down. I would assume that if they were and Sullivan couldn't be reached that OSHA would not have declared them negligent.

I didn't read the report, was there anything in there about that?
Mar 17, 2011 11:27am
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Mar 17, 2011 11:29 AM
bigkahuna;715095 wrote:I didn't read the report, was there anything in there about that?

Yeah, it said they were negligent for not telling them to get down when winds were over 28 mph
Mar 17, 2011 11:29am
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Mar 17, 2011 11:39 AM
killer_ewok;714962 wrote:That just proves that Tressel thought of it, not that he or Kelly are ultimately responsible for it.

I think it proves more than that.
Mar 17, 2011 11:39am
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Mar 17, 2011 11:40 AM
LJ;715097 wrote:Yeah, it said they were negligent for not telling them to get down when winds were over 28 mph

they meaning the school and them meaning anyone on film crew regardless of height in the lift?
Mar 17, 2011 11:40am
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Mar 17, 2011 11:42 AM
bigkahuna;715109 wrote:they meaning the school and them meaning anyone on film crew regardless of height in the lift?

Yes
Mar 17, 2011 11:42am
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rock_knutne

Mar 17, 2011 11:52 AM
SportsAndLady;715082 wrote:Haha rock's in "i'm a retard" denial mode.
Ha, you wrote the book on being a retard.
Mar 17, 2011 11:52am
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Mar 17, 2011 12:57 PM
dat dude;715107 wrote:I think it proves more than that.

There's a surprise. I'll bite, what more does it prove?
Mar 17, 2011 12:57pm
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Mar 17, 2011 12:58 PM
rock_knutne;715122 wrote:Ha, you wrote the book on being a retard.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Mar 17, 2011 12:58pm
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Mar 17, 2011 1:44 PM
Bottom line, Kelly was/is ULTIMATELY responsible. He is he head coach and runs the football program. That being said, it was an accident and he should NOT step down or lose his job. I think thats been pretty much decided already.
This was one of those freak, tragic accidents where people learned a hard lesson and will now be more aware of situations like this.
Mar 17, 2011 1:44pm
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rock_knutne

Mar 17, 2011 3:02 PM
SportsAndLady;715200 wrote:HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I know, the fact that you act like a retard is hysterical.
Mar 17, 2011 3:02pm
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Mar 17, 2011 3:45 PM
dat dude;714921 wrote:There are many dumb posts in this thread (99% by Rock)
i lol'd
centralbucksfan;715274 wrote:Bottom line, Kelly was/is ULTIMATELY responsible. He is he head coach and runs the football program. That being said, it was an accident and he should NOT step down or lose his job. I think thats been pretty much decided already.
This was one of those freak, tragic accidents where people learned a hard lesson and will now be more aware of situations like this.

Notre Dame was ruled negligent, therefore it is not "an accident". Someone needs to lose their job, maybe BK, maybe someone else, but its a absolute joke how ND is handling this.
Mar 17, 2011 3:45pm
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Mar 17, 2011 3:47 PM
sleeper;715448 wrote:i lol'd



Notre Dame was ruled negligent, therefore it is not "an accident". Someone needs to lose their job, maybe BK, maybe someone else, but its a absolute joke how ND is handling this.

So conducting an investigation is an absolute joke?
Mar 17, 2011 3:47pm
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Mar 17, 2011 3:48 PM
sleeper, what does the ND in the thread title stand for? Which forum is this? Why are you posting on it?
Mar 17, 2011 3:48pm
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Mar 17, 2011 3:50 PM
killer_ewok;715450 wrote:So conducting an investigation is an absolute joke?
An investigation? OHSA found someone negligent, how hard is it to find the direct boss of the camera crew? I bet he's on payroll somewhere, this is merely ND giving lip service to "ND takes FULL responsibility".
karen lotz;715451 wrote:sleeper, what does the ND in the thread title stand for? Which forum is this? Why are you posting on it?
It was edited in, you can't apply topics retroactively, you must have them in place at the time of the thread. Also, get a life.
Mar 17, 2011 3:50pm