
ZWICK 4 PREZ
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Mar 15, 2011 11:56am
Person A is Catholic. Person B is Protestant. Person B wants to convert to Catholicism but probably won't until after the marriage. Persons A and B get married in a Catholic church. Does the church recognize person B as recieving the sacrament of Marriage after they convert later on since they were married in a Catholic ceremony even though they were not Catholic at the time?

THE4RINGZ
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Mar 15, 2011 12:01pm
Once person B is fully converted there is a ritual whereby the marriage becomes officially recognized b the Catholic Church. So I suppose at that person B recieves the Sacrament of Marriage

ZWICK 4 PREZ
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Mar 15, 2011 12:05pm
So on Easter Vigil when Person B gets Confirmed and First Communion, there's also a ritual for the Marriage too?

O-Trap
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Mar 15, 2011 12:08pm
This sounds remarkably complicated. Certainly, I'm interested in hearing the official Church position on this, but hell, the explanation itself sounded exhausting.

THE4RINGZ
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Mar 15, 2011 12:09pm
The one I witnessed didn't take part at the Easter Vigil. It was the following Saturday, and it wasn't held during a Mass. Just the couple, their children, and a few friends were there. It was a pretty simple service, took less than five minutes.
I have only seen it once, and I don't know if the way it was done then is standard or just the way the couple and/ or priest decided to do it.
I have only seen it once, and I don't know if the way it was done then is standard or just the way the couple and/ or priest decided to do it.

Fly4Fun
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Mar 15, 2011 12:41pm
Ugh... I want to pull a sleeper and just slam organized religion as a result of this thread...

O-Trap
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Mar 15, 2011 12:46pm
I was actually surprised to see that he wasn't the 1th reply on this thread.Fly4Fun;712975 wrote:Ugh... I want to pull a sleeper and just slam organized religion as a result of this thread...

krambman
Posts: 3,606
Mar 15, 2011 1:33pm
If I were Person B I would have Person A ask their priest. They would probably be able to explain it far better than anyone on here could.
Here's an article from the Catholic Encyclopedia on the Sacrament of Marriage. Interestingly enough, the spouses are the ministers of the sacrament, not the priest, and the vows and marriage itself are the sacrament, not the service, so technically a priest and formal ceremony aren't even necessary.
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/09707a.htm
Here's an article from the Catholic Encyclopedia on the Sacrament of Marriage. Interestingly enough, the spouses are the ministers of the sacrament, not the priest, and the vows and marriage itself are the sacrament, not the service, so technically a priest and formal ceremony aren't even necessary.
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/09707a.htm

sleeper
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Mar 15, 2011 1:35pm
Sounds like person A and person B need to get a life.

O-Trap
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Mar 15, 2011 1:41pm
sleeper;713004 wrote:Sounds like person A and person B need to get a life.
THERE he is!

sleeper
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Mar 15, 2011 1:50pm
Fly4Fun;712975 wrote:Ugh... I want to pull a sleeper and just slam organized religion as a result of this thread...
i lol'd
+1THERE he is!

Scarlet_Buckeye
Posts: 5,264
Mar 15, 2011 2:11pm
Zwick are you going to tie the knot?

password
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Mar 15, 2011 2:15pm
Don't you have to attend classes and convert before you can be married in the Catholic church?
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Def Leopard
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Mar 15, 2011 2:19pm
password;713045 wrote:Don't you have to attend classes and convert before you can be married in the Catholic church?
And contribute to the collections for 6 months to see if you are worth adding to the parish.

LJ
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Mar 15, 2011 2:19pm
There are so many things I dislike about the Catholic church, but one of the biggest annoyances I have is the 1 hour long full mass marriage ceremony. Honestly, that would be a marriage dealbreaker for me.

ZWICK 4 PREZ
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Mar 15, 2011 2:21pm
password;713045 wrote:Don't you have to attend classes and convert before you can be married in the Catholic church?
no

sherm03
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Mar 15, 2011 2:21pm
password;713045 wrote:Don't you have to attend classes and convert before you can be married in the Catholic church?
That varies by church. When my sister-in-law got married, her husband had to convert. When my wife and I got married, the priest said only one of us needed to be baptized Catholic.

ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
Mar 15, 2011 2:24pm
LJ;713051 wrote:There are so many things I dislike about the Catholic church, but one of the biggest annoyances I have is the 1 hour long full mass marriage ceremony. Honestly, that would be a marriage dealbreaker for me.
Mass takes an hour; what do you expect?

ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
Mar 15, 2011 2:24pm
sherm03;713056 wrote:That varies by church. When my sister-in-law got married, her husband had to convert. When my wife and I got married, the priest said only one of us needed to be baptized Catholic.
You don't have to convert, the Catholic just has to seek Dispensation.

LJ
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Mar 15, 2011 2:31pm
ZWICK 4 PREZ;713058 wrote:Mass takes an hour; what do you expect?
A nice 15 minute marriage ceremony like we are getting at the Methodist church we are members of

O-Trap
Posts: 14,994
Mar 15, 2011 2:34pm
LJ;713069 wrote:A nice 15 minute marriage ceremony like we are getting at the Methodist church we are members of
Priest: "You want her?"
Groom: "You better believe it!"
Priest: "You got 'er. I now pronounce you man and wife. You may kiss the bride."

Scarlet_Buckeye
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Mar 15, 2011 3:09pm
So, are you settling down?
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dave
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Mar 15, 2011 3:18pm
password;713045 wrote:Don't you have to attend classes and convert before you can be married in the Catholic church?
You have to do the classes regardless, even if both are catholic. If only 1 is, often you won't be allowed to have a full catholic mass.

krambman
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Mar 15, 2011 3:42pm
I believe that the couple can choose to do their mass privately apart from the formal wedding service. I've not been to a Catholic wedding in ages, but I believe some Catholic friends of mine who got married a few years ago chose to do the mass privately before the actual ceremony to keep things short.
I'm a Baptist minister and when I do weddings they take 15-20 minutes provided no additional music, videos, readings, etc. have been added.
I'm a Baptist minister and when I do weddings they take 15-20 minutes provided no additional music, videos, readings, etc. have been added.

Fab1b
Posts: 12,949
Mar 15, 2011 3:44pm
Just get married on a beach somewhere, better yet don't get married!