How Much Trouble Is OSU and Tressel in Now?!

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Mar 8, 2011 8:06 PM
WebFire;704075 wrote:But what were they doing that warranted them being part of the investigation? Selling stuff to him is not illegal. It's only an NCAA violation. The feds don't give 2 shits about it.

I take it as a lawyer involved with the fed investigation was doing Tress a solid with his email alerting him that hey this shop is in trouble and your players were selling their stuff to the one in trouble. That is going to come out but for the mean time you can't say anything keep it confidential. That is just my take folks.
Mar 8, 2011 8:06pm
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Fidmeister

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Mar 8, 2011 8:06 PM
Depends on who Tress could trust. IMO, he should have told Gene Smith. I think he's pretty safe to trust.
Mar 8, 2011 8:06pm
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Mar 8, 2011 8:07 PM
queencitybuckeye;704091 wrote:Only to the scut workers.



Careful, that oil will burn you when you drop the fries.



Not really, as I said, they blew out those who can't write.

Wow. You're funny.
Mar 8, 2011 8:07pm
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Mar 8, 2011 8:07 PM
WebFire;704072 wrote:Wouldn't Federal gov't trump NCAA? I don't see how Tress can get in trouble when ordered not to tell by the feds.

And this is WHY I believe the NCAA won't do anything further. I think Tressel was stuck between a rock and a hard place.
Mar 8, 2011 8:07pm
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Mar 8, 2011 8:07 PM
ytownfootball;704067 wrote:There aren't any more facts ewok. No players were involved in drugs of any kind. The NCAA will certainly understand the conflict JT was faced with in reporting "their" violations and a confidentiality request in a federal investigation. That's all this thing is.


Maybe you're right, maybe you're wrong. We'll see. Whether or not the NCAA will understand......time will tell.
Mar 8, 2011 8:07pm
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Mar 8, 2011 8:08 PM
centralbucksfan;704097 wrote:And this is WHY I believe the NCAA won't do anything further. I think Tressel was stuck between a rock and a hard place.
If that turns out to be the case.....I agree.....it's a done deal and over with regarding the NCAA. The public opinion of Tressel most likely took a pretty big hit today though.
Mar 8, 2011 8:08pm
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Mar 8, 2011 8:09 PM
killer_ewok;704098 wrote:Maybe you're right, maybe you're wrong. We'll see. Whether or not the NCAA will understand......time will tell.

I'm not a betting man and would bet the house on it. It's a lock.
Mar 8, 2011 8:09pm
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Mar 8, 2011 8:10 PM
Here's the deal. I see a lot of people being on one hand defensive of JT and other people being over critical. I am sure a lot of the opinions are based on where your biases lie. Here's my 2 cents, and my opinion applies to not just JT, but anyone else in his situation.

If Tressel received an email from a federal attorney regarding an investigation he should have consulted with OSU's legal counsel. As an agent of the university, he had an obligation to ensure the best interests of OSU were being met. Any discussion he would have had with OSU's legal counsel would have been privileged, meaning what was discussed between the two was not discoverable in a court of law. Legal counsel could have guided him in the process of what he can and cannot disclose to the NCAA, the players and/or anyone else. Any concern about disrupting/interfering with the federal investigation would have been alleviated.
Mar 8, 2011 8:10pm
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Mar 8, 2011 8:10 PM
The only bad thing here in my eyes is PR.
Mar 8, 2011 8:10pm
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Mar 8, 2011 8:10 PM
ytownfootball;704102 wrote:I'm not a betting man and would bet the house on it. It's a lock.

I bet I can get you betting by the end of the day!!! 2-1 3-1 4-1 odds.
Mar 8, 2011 8:10pm
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Mar 8, 2011 8:10 PM
ytownfootball;704082 wrote:IT'S AN ONGOING INVESTIGATION THAT REQUIRES CONFIDENTIALITY. It doesn't mean they're involved.Period.

Then why would Tress get an email that held him to confidentiality?
Mar 8, 2011 8:10pm
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Mar 8, 2011 8:11 PM
Tough situation for JT to be in. I think the only people he could have went to would have been the schools lawyers.
Mar 8, 2011 8:11pm
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Mar 8, 2011 8:11 PM
killer_ewok;704101 wrote:If that turns out to be the case.....I agree.....it's a done deal and over with regarding the NCAA. The public opinion of Tressel most likely took a pretty big hit today though.

The public opinion that scorn him for this isn't worthy of note imo. Ill informed and looking for reasons to crucify.
Mar 8, 2011 8:11pm
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Mar 8, 2011 8:12 PM
WebFire;704108 wrote:Then why would Tress get an email that held him to confidentiality?

See my earlier post: I take it as a lawyer involved with the fed investigation was doing Tress a solid with his email alerting him that hey this shop is in trouble and your players were selling their stuff to the one in trouble. That is going to come out but for the mean time you can't say anything keep it confidential. That is just my take folks.
Mar 8, 2011 8:12pm
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Mar 8, 2011 8:12 PM
Fidmeister;704094 wrote:Depends on who Tress could trust. IMO, he should have told Gene Smith. I think he's pretty safe to trust.

If it stopped at Gene Smith, OSU would be in the same boat. It either stays with Tress or it goes all the way to the top.
Mar 8, 2011 8:12pm
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Mar 8, 2011 8:13 PM
bo shemmy3337;704106 wrote:I bet I can get you betting by the end of the day!!! 2-1 3-1 4-1 odds.

Shutup lameass
Mar 8, 2011 8:13pm
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Mar 8, 2011 8:14 PM
WebFire;704108 wrote:Then why would Tress get an email that held him to confidentiality?

Web...Jesus...ongoing investigations of any kind, federal or not usually require sealed lips.
Mar 8, 2011 8:14pm
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Mar 8, 2011 8:14 PM
Automatik;704105 wrote:The only bad thing here in my eyes is PR.

I agree. Much ado about notta. How much do they need to look into us seems like harassment at somepoint.
Mar 8, 2011 8:14pm
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Mar 8, 2011 8:15 PM
killer_ewok;704101 wrote:If that turns out to be the case.....I agree.....it's a done deal and over with regarding the NCAA. The public opinion of Tressel most likely took a pretty big hit today though.

Not in my eyes. If he was taking a hit for the players, I have no issue with that. IF what was mentioned in presser is true. Personally, i am relieved it wasn't something like recruiting violations, booster dealings, academic wrong doing, etc, etc. No, its not good. But it could have been worse..and I was expecting the worst. Again, not making an excuse. But there were certainly some complexities involved with a federal investigation, a lawyer asking for confidentiality and possible risk to his players. I am sure it will all play out in the next few days when details emerge.
Mar 8, 2011 8:15pm
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Mar 8, 2011 8:16 PM
Why was the e-mail sent if it was confidential though? That doesn't make much sense to me. Tressel wasn't involved with the case at all, even if his players were, therefore, the attorney shouldn't have informed Tressel of anything. Something is missing IMO.
Mar 8, 2011 8:16pm
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Mar 8, 2011 8:16 PM
First of all he wasn't told by the feds to keep anything quiet. He was contacted by an attorney who will probably be disbarred or reprimanded about an on going federal investigation and given details about the case. The attorney was the one in the wrong here and Tressel never should have known before the investigation and trial were over in December. However, he should have outed the attorney told the feds and NCAA and blew the whole thing up. He didn't, was more concerned about the players being in trouble. At the end of the investigation its turns out they just sold shit the the tattoo parlor and committed no crimes. Tressel was put in a tough situation. I'm not sure what I would have done. Read the OSU statement to the NCAA before you post anymore shit on this forum.


https://www.nmnathletics.com//pdf8/745702.pdf?ATCLID=205112065&SPSID=87743&SPID=10408&DB_OEM_ID=17300
Mar 8, 2011 8:16pm
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Mar 8, 2011 8:16 PM
se-alum;704112 wrote:If it stopped at Gene Smith, OSU would be in the same boat. It either stays with Tress or it goes all the way to the top.

Probably. But, does he cover himself some by telling his boss? It would have allowed them to take action sooner on their end. Would have kept them in front of the problem instead of reacting later.
Mar 8, 2011 8:16pm
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Mar 8, 2011 8:17 PM
dwccrew;704125 wrote:Why was the e-mail sent if it was confidential though? That doesn't make much sense to me. Tressel wasn't involved with the case at all, even if his players were, therefore, the attorney shouldn't have informed Tressel of anything. Something is missing IMO.

No I think the lawyer was trying to do Tress a favor and provide him with some information about his players that would come out of this and instead it did more harm!
Mar 8, 2011 8:17pm
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Mar 8, 2011 8:18 PM
dwccrew;704114 wrote:Shutup lameass

Rude! movie quote from best movie ever and your pissed.
Mar 8, 2011 8:18pm
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Mar 8, 2011 8:18 PM
dwccrew;704125 wrote:Why was the e-mail sent if it was confidential though? That doesn't make much sense to me. Tressel wasn't involved with the case at all, even if his players were, therefore, the attorney shouldn't have informed Tressel of anything. Something is missing IMO.

Because if Tressel tipped that these guys were in trouble prior to them being released of any drug business, it could have tipped off tattoo guy and fucked their case.
Mar 8, 2011 8:18pm