
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Apr 5, 2013 1:39pm
Count me in as another who only deadlifts with a hex bar. Much safer and a more comfortable lift.
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birddog23
Posts: 1,086
Apr 5, 2013 7:38pm
Wow. I really liked it and can't believe how much more I felt it in my legs, specifically quads, rather than my lower back. I was worried about how my form would be so I filmed it and it was practically flawless. I'll continue with this from now on. My only complaint is that I wish would've just tried it much earlier lol

Automatik
Posts: 14,632
May 1, 2013 11:24am
Just bumped this from page 7....slacking up in here?!?!
I know I have been.
It's spring aka boozing season. I'm still fasting regularly, but not really concentrating on my cals. I've also been half assing it at the gym...but still going. I'm trying to clean it up this week with diet and workout.
I know I have been.
It's spring aka boozing season. I'm still fasting regularly, but not really concentrating on my cals. I've also been half assing it at the gym...but still going. I'm trying to clean it up this week with diet and workout.
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Sonofanump
May 1, 2013 1:17pm
Sorry, just got back from 22.5 mile bike ride with 15 mph winds.
Drank a half bottle of Bolthouse chocolate protien.
That is all.
Drank a half bottle of Bolthouse chocolate protien.
That is all.
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birddog23
Posts: 1,086
May 1, 2013 3:19pm
Just started Jim Wendler's 5, 3, 1 program this week. Going to stray from the Leangains/Paleo thing for the summer and see what happens. If I don't like it, I can always go back. For me it is always easier cutting weight than trying to bulk up by eating 3000 plus calories a day.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
May 1, 2013 3:44pm
Nothing's really changed with me....
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Sonofanump
May 1, 2013 6:22pm
Salad with chicken for dinner.

Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
May 1, 2013 6:39pm
Those who have done Trap Bar Dead Lifts. Question. Do you think it will translate to an improvement in the dead lift?
I'm starting to get frustrated lately. I've thought about doing a PL competition next fall (just for my own amusement), but I'm wanting to really see some progress in lifts before I really make the jump. I want to compete in 77 kg (169 lb) but also continue to improve strength. I'm about 175 right now, so the weight isn't a huge deal to get to the 169.
I've had to back off a bit lately though as I'm pretty sure I fried my CNS from compound heavy lifting 3-4 times a week for about 12 weeks. My dead lift has completely stalled at 425 for 1RM. My squat is also stuck at 335 for 1RM. I guess my bind is...in the summer I like to do a lot of other stuff. Basketball, softball, different metabolic activities, which makes it pretty tough to recover. Unfortunately, with some past knee problems, these activities make it really tough to feel like I have 100% stability when training, especially the dead lift.
Currently I'll do box squats, hack squats, leg presses and some other isolation stuff once a week just to maintain leg strength. I've NEVER Hex Bar dead lifted. Think it's worth working in, at least with the chance that a different movement might get me through the plateau? Kind of in that rut where despite having what I think (and a mentor of mine who programs for me) is a quality program, things feel stale...
I'm starting to get frustrated lately. I've thought about doing a PL competition next fall (just for my own amusement), but I'm wanting to really see some progress in lifts before I really make the jump. I want to compete in 77 kg (169 lb) but also continue to improve strength. I'm about 175 right now, so the weight isn't a huge deal to get to the 169.
I've had to back off a bit lately though as I'm pretty sure I fried my CNS from compound heavy lifting 3-4 times a week for about 12 weeks. My dead lift has completely stalled at 425 for 1RM. My squat is also stuck at 335 for 1RM. I guess my bind is...in the summer I like to do a lot of other stuff. Basketball, softball, different metabolic activities, which makes it pretty tough to recover. Unfortunately, with some past knee problems, these activities make it really tough to feel like I have 100% stability when training, especially the dead lift.
Currently I'll do box squats, hack squats, leg presses and some other isolation stuff once a week just to maintain leg strength. I've NEVER Hex Bar dead lifted. Think it's worth working in, at least with the chance that a different movement might get me through the plateau? Kind of in that rut where despite having what I think (and a mentor of mine who programs for me) is a quality program, things feel stale...
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
May 2, 2013 8:01am
I don't think it will necessarily equate to a bigger deadlift. With the hex bar you are using more legs, hips & ass where with a standard dead there's more back involved. Training with the hex for a competition, imo, could leave your back as your "weak" point. A hex is almost like doing a squat.Azubuike24;1437035 wrote:Those who have done Trap Bar Dead Lifts. Question. Do you think it will translate to an improvement in the dead lift?
I'm starting to get frustrated lately. I've thought about doing a PL competition next fall (just for my own amusement), but I'm wanting to really see some progress in lifts before I really make the jump. I want to compete in 77 kg (169 lb) but also continue to improve strength. I'm about 175 right now, so the weight isn't a huge deal to get to the 169.
I've had to back off a bit lately though as I'm pretty sure I fried my CNS from compound heavy lifting 3-4 times a week for about 12 weeks. My dead lift has completely stalled at 425 for 1RM. My squat is also stuck at 335 for 1RM. I guess my bind is...in the summer I like to do a lot of other stuff. Basketball, softball, different metabolic activities, which makes it pretty tough to recover. Unfortunately, with some past knee problems, these activities make it really tough to feel like I have 100% stability when training, especially the dead lift.
Currently I'll do box squats, hack squats, leg presses and some other isolation stuff once a week just to maintain leg strength. I've NEVER Hex Bar dead lifted. Think it's worth working in, at least with the chance that a different movement might get me through the plateau? Kind of in that rut where despite having what I think (and a mentor of mine who programs for me) is a quality program, things feel stale...
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birddog23
Posts: 1,086
May 2, 2013 8:34am
This. You want your dead lift to get better, dead lift. Throw in some good mornings and glute ham raises. Those will help you out a bit. Foam roll, stretch, and eat. Then do those things again.BR1986FB;1437173 wrote:I don't think it will necessarily equate to a bigger deadlift. With the hex bar you are using more legs, hips & ass where with a standard dead there's more back involved. Training with the hex for a competition, imo, could leave your back as your "weak" point. A hex is almost like doing a squat.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
May 2, 2013 9:21am
Yeah, I just use the hex because I want to hoist as much weight as possible. My competition days are over. If I was competing I'd do strictly deads, sumo style.

Raw Dawgin' it
Posts: 11,466
May 2, 2013 10:33am
Why the sumo style? I've never actually seen anyone do sumo deadlifts.BR1986FB;1437212 wrote:Yeah, I just use the hex because I want to hoist as much weight as possible. My competition days are over. If I was competing I'd do strictly deads, sumo style.

Raw Dawgin' it
Posts: 11,466
May 2, 2013 10:34am
Also - i love the hex bar. A lot less strain on my lower back.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
May 2, 2013 10:36am
My body structure make sumo a much easier pull.Raw Dawgin' it;1437278 wrote:Why the sumo style? I've never actually seen anyone do sumo deadlifts.
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birddog23
Posts: 1,086
May 2, 2013 11:40am
If done correctly the barbell deadlift should have very little discomfort on lower back. I liked the hex bar deadlift when I tried it (4 weeks) but felt much too like a squat for me and didn't feel like my back was getting much of anything out of it. Plus I feel way more badass barbell deadlifting lolRaw Dawgin' it;1437279 wrote:Also - i love the hex bar. A lot less strain on my lower back.

Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
May 2, 2013 11:49am
So it sounds like it might actually improve the squat then?
I don't really think my back is the weak point. I enjoy the other quad/hamstring work though, but may have to incorporate this as well.
Thanks for posting about it actually...
I don't really think my back is the weak point. I enjoy the other quad/hamstring work though, but may have to incorporate this as well.
Thanks for posting about it actually...
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
May 2, 2013 11:50am
I've watched videos of Marting Berkhan (LeanGains) deadlift and dude completely rolls his back. Unlike a conventional style where you'd look up the whole time he's looking down and the top of his back is rounded. He seems to think it's ok but it looks like an injury waiting to happen to me.birddog23;1437362 wrote:If done correctly the barbell deadlift should have very little discomfort on lower back. I liked the hex bar deadlift when I tried it (4 weeks) but felt much too like a squat for me and didn't feel like my back was getting much of anything out of it. Plus I feel way more badass barbell deadlifting lol

Pick6
Posts: 14,946
May 2, 2013 11:53am
Yeah, this is why I stick with the hex bar. I know the form, but dont like taking the chance of breaking if I am trying to do a lot of weight. Nothing worse than a pulled back muscle, IMO. I've pulled ones where it hurts to breath, walk, move, etc.BR1986FB;1437376 wrote:I've watched videos of Marting Berkhan (LeanGains) deadlift and dude completely rolls his back. Unlike a conventional style where you'd look up the whole time he's looking down and the top of his back is rounded. He seems to think it's ok but it looks like an injury waiting to happen to me.

Automatik
Posts: 14,632
May 2, 2013 12:00pm
I can't find the link now because work, but check out Elliot Hulse's vids on Youtube. He has a lot of them dedicated to deadlifts.
He is the man, knows his shit and is very informative.
He is the man, knows his shit and is very informative.
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birddog23
Posts: 1,086
May 2, 2013 12:41pm
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birddog23
Posts: 1,086
May 2, 2013 4:42pm

Raw Dawgin' it
Posts: 11,466
May 3, 2013 10:06am
I wonder how many false hits he got with an article titled "Tuggin' Tips"birddog23;1437559 wrote:Great deadlift article http://articles.elitefts.com/training-articles/tuggin-tips-advice-on-deadlifts-that-changed-my-life/

Automatik
Posts: 14,632
May 10, 2013 12:57pm

Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
May 13, 2013 8:04am
3 cups of almond meal is a crapload of Omega 6. Definitely looks good, but I personally make stuff like that eat the whole thing in a single sitting.
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Sonofanump
May 14, 2013 11:07am
My new addiction is dry roasted & unsalted almonds.