Senate Bill 5 Targets Collective Bargaining for Elimination!

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Mar 4, 2011 2:30 PM
My jr. high school music teacher daughter and I Unionized .....
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Mar 4, 2011 2:31 PM
please, belly, spare us the details.
Mar 4, 2011 2:31pm
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Mar 4, 2011 2:35 PM
coach_bob1;698745 wrote:My wife just saw how much her pay will be cut. She currently makes $20.48 per hour. Her pay will be cut to $12.09 per hour. And we have been informed that our daughter's occupational therapy will not be covered.

I thought wages were still set by collective bargaining in the new version of SB5?
Mar 4, 2011 2:35pm
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Mar 4, 2011 2:44 PM
FatHobbit;699561 wrote:I thought wages were still set by collective bargaining in the new version of SB5?

They are
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stlouiedipalma

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Mar 4, 2011 2:45 PM
That's the only thing which can be negotiated by CB, correct?
Mar 4, 2011 2:45pm
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Mar 4, 2011 3:02 PM
stlouiedipalma;699570 wrote:That's the only thing which can be negotiated by CB, correct?

yeah, pretty sure
Mar 4, 2011 3:02pm
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Mar 4, 2011 3:28 PM
stlouiedipalma;699570 wrote:That's the only thing which can be negotiated by CB, correct?

That's what I thought, too. Then we read SB 5. It's right there in Section 124.15. It clearly states that if you work for a Bureau or a Commission, this is your salary scale. And at 7 years, she's maxed out.
Mar 4, 2011 3:28pm
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Mar 4, 2011 4:18 PM
coach_bob1;699632 wrote:That's what I thought, too. Then we read SB 5. It's right there in Section 124.15. It clearly states that if you work for a Bureau or a Commission, this is your salary scale. And at 7 years, she's maxed out.

Someone is striking fear into your wife's heart. Look at the bill again, the pay scales are struck out. aka not valid, because they reinstated CB for wages
Mar 4, 2011 4:18pm
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coach_bob1

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Mar 4, 2011 4:22 PM
LJ;699682 wrote:Someone is striking fear into your wife's heart. Look at the bill again, the pay scales are struck out. aka not valid, because they reinstated CB for wages

Not all of them are.
Mar 4, 2011 4:22pm
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Mar 4, 2011 4:25 PM
coach_bob1;699684 wrote:Not all of them are.

31 7 is
Mar 4, 2011 4:25pm
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Mar 4, 2011 4:26 PM
O-Trap;699526 wrote:I had a 500+ pound Athletic Director. He was a good guy.

Thankfully, he's lost considerable weight since then, as well.

I don't get the correlation to the topic, but what the hell, right? :D

there is no correlation...just randomly thought of her while reading this thread
Mar 4, 2011 4:26pm
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Mar 4, 2011 4:27 PM
I'm wondering if the online version hadn't been updated. All the payscales are crossed out
Mar 4, 2011 4:27pm
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coach_bob1

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Mar 4, 2011 4:27 PM
LJ,

I've got it up right now. It's not struck out. They struck out all of Schedule C and just the title of Schedule B
Mar 4, 2011 4:27pm
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Mar 4, 2011 4:31 PM
coach_bob1;699689 wrote:LJ,

I've got it up right now. It's not struck out. They struck out all of Schedule C and just the title of Schedule B

hit refresh homeboy, it's struck out
Mar 4, 2011 4:31pm
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Mar 4, 2011 4:35 PM
How much power do you have?????
Mar 4, 2011 4:35pm
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Mar 4, 2011 4:36 PM
coach_bob1;699694 wrote:How much power do you have?????

huh? lol
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Mar 4, 2011 4:39 PM
I have opened and closed that at least 15 times today, most recently at 4:15, and I refreshed that when you told me Sec 124.15 was struck out. Now, all of the sudden, you tell me to refresh and it's magically struck out. Are you controlling the State Legislature's site too?
Mar 4, 2011 4:39pm
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Mar 4, 2011 4:47 PM
bahahahah
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coach_bob1;699696 wrote:I have opened and closed that at least 15 times today, most recently at 4:15, and I refreshed that when you told me Sec 124.15 was struck out. Now, all of the sudden, you tell me to refresh and it's magically struck out. Are you controlling the State Legislature's site too?

Are you in favor of the bill now?
Mar 4, 2011 4:55pm
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Mar 4, 2011 5:23 PM
"All your payscales are belong to me."

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Mar 4, 2011 6:31 PM
I know I mentioned the phd thing earlier on a pay scale.

This is from 2005-2006 for Bowling Green City Schools. They top out at 74,500. That is step 27 with a Phd/Masters +60 or Spec.+30<----Not really sure what this last thing is.
Mar 4, 2011 6:31pm
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Mar 4, 2011 8:17 PM
bigkahuna;699792 wrote:I know I mentioned the phd thing earlier on a pay scale.

This is from 2005-2006 for Bowling Green City Schools. They top out at 74,500. That is step 27 with a Phd/Masters +60 or Spec.+30<----Not really sure what this last thing is.

I'd be willing to bet you that $74,500 (plus benefits that take everything over $100,000 no doubt) is waaaaaaay out of line with what an average, successful professional makes in Wood County (not including university salaries, which are also inflated).
Mar 4, 2011 8:17pm
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Mar 4, 2011 9:24 PM
ccrunner609;699904 wrote:i love the new strategy to make people look like they make alot of money by adding in benefits to their salary.

Total comp packages have always been used.

Private companies will add in your 401k match, vacation days, paid holidays, sick days, health care benefits and give you a cash number and a total comp number.
Mar 4, 2011 9:24pm
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Mar 4, 2011 9:49 PM
Yeah, but when asked what your salary is, it won't be included. Now, for the sake of argument, everyone wants to throw the "total compensation" for a public employee around.

It's a joke. To hold the public employee, middle class worker responsible for this, and asking them to give up more, when they have already make significant sacrifices is a joke. No public employee is doing their job to get rich. They are doing it to provide a living for their family. It is baffling to me that the Republicans have their "sheep" so brainwashed about this idea that public employees and their Unions are to blame.

Open your eyes and realize Wall Street caused this, and are not being held responsible. It is an absolute travesty what is happening here. The Government has no conscious what it is doing to the hard working, middle class, public sector worker. 5 years ago, they could not pay enough for someone in the private sector to become a public sector worker. Now, when the economy is down, the private sector wants to complain. Our Unions have made concessions, just like your private companies have.
Mar 4, 2011 9:49pm
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Mar 4, 2011 10:48 PM
ccrunner609;699904 wrote:i love the new strategy to make people look like they make alot of money by adding in benefits to their salary.

Clearly you have never employed anyone. Bottom line is all that matters to the employer is the total cost incurred to employ you. It matters not how that cost is divided up. Wages and benefits are not inclusive of all the costs of employment. You have government mandated workman's comp, unemployment insurance, matching contribution for medicare, and for non public employees matching contribution for social security.
Mar 4, 2011 10:48pm