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Jan 27, 2011 5:35 PM
Oh and its funny how you say superiority complex when thats never been the case, so now were on the gamut of making snap judgments and once again trying to pass them off as fact.....AGAIN.

The fact the you dont know the backstory or history should probably tell you you dont even know wtf you are talking about.

This all came about due to some immature kids not being able to accept an opinion different then their own.

But as I said, please dont let facts cloud your ignorance, continue making yourself look silly by making ill advised and unfounded claims and pass them off as fact. Youre doing good kid.

Its like arguing with me kindergartners with you except they at least sometimes have something of substance.
Jan 27, 2011 5:35pm
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Jan 27, 2011 8:15 PM
Fantastic. I'm bored. You win teh internetz.

You seem to care more about doing so than I care about bringing up every statement you've made in the thread as evidence of what I've been saying (and about which people have been interjecting their agreement). There are a ton of them, and I just don't care THAT much.

I'm pretty sure everyone reading this knows who is making sense. But even though I don't care, let's make a thread about it, shall we? After all, that doesn't mean you actually care or anything, does it?
Jan 27, 2011 8:15pm
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Jan 27, 2011 8:35 PM
Is Ender actually Lebron James? its rare you find people so full of themselves like this.
Jan 27, 2011 8:35pm
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Jan 27, 2011 8:53 PM
Im actually quite humble, you couldnt find one person that would say im boisterous in any way.

Nice emotional snap judgment though.

Didnt realize I was so popular.
Jan 27, 2011 8:53pm
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Jan 27, 2011 8:53 PM
Ender Wiggin;655523 wrote:Theres no inconsistency because this is all coming about from your opinion....which you are trying to pass off as fact.
Ugh, fine. If you refuse to see evidences unless they are laid in order, right in front of you:

Example A:
Ender Wiggin;647345 wrote:And actually, I only claimed that the select few people who were throwing the word around recklessly never experienced true hate, or else they would know that something that would be trivial in comparison does not constitute true hate.

Im sure others have, but I was referring to the ignorant ones who used the term loosely specifically.
Note the name-calling (implying emotion evoked, given the context) and the vilification of people speaking "recklessly." I ask, if the Internet is not serious business to you, what's wrong with throwing around words recklessly?

Also, why the need to dedicate an entire thread to what some people are doing on the Internet, if it doesn't matter to you?

Finally, why get so serious about someone using the word "hate" loosely? It's just the Internet, after all?

Exhibit B:
Ender Wiggin;647349 wrote:But if I ever act like LJ and ytown did with their straight up lying and bold claims with no evidence then that will be the day I leave here forever.
What justifies someone lying or making unsubstantiated claims on something as meaningless as a message board constitute leaving it forever? That would be way too serious a response to one's own actions, unless you take such actions on a message board seriously.

Exhibit C:
Ender Wiggin;647353 wrote:Let everyone know how this is relevant please.
Here's a two-for-one. Trying to assert (without evidence) that his post was irrelevant exhibits that superiority complex I was talking about.

Also, even if he posted something as relevant as a picture of a bunny with a pancake on its head, there is no ground for addressing it at all, let alone condescendingly, unless you're taking the topic seriously.

Exhibit D:
Ender Wiggin;647479 wrote:Then he started crying when I called him out ...

Who calls people out if it doesn't matter. If you state that maple cream sticks are better, and that it's a fact, I'm not going to "call you out" on it, because ... well ... it doesn't matter.

Exhibit E:
http://www.ohiochatter.com/forum/threads/16779-Do-they-let-anyone-become-cops-or-something?p=492768#post492768

That whole post takes things VERY seriously, and has a variety of condescending language in it.

Exhibit F:
Ender Wiggin;648402 wrote:Dont paint yourself in a corner then tuck tail and run like a girl.
"Like a girl" is condescending. Classic of a superiority complex.

That's just the first page. I don't feel like doing the rest. Too much work, and some of us just don't care that much.
Jan 27, 2011 8:53pm
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Jan 27, 2011 9:06 PM
Ender Wiggin;655749 wrote:Im actually quite humble, you couldnt find one person that would say im boisterous in any way.

prove it then you bumbling moron
Jan 27, 2011 9:06pm
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Jan 27, 2011 9:17 PM
O-Trap;654836 wrote:Aw, c'mon. This is fun! :D

But not too fun. After all, it needs to be taken seriously, and backed up with proof. ;)

And completely devoid of emotion. Because as you know, nothing factual ever contains emotion. I've seen some idiots on this forum and the old place, but I think we found their leader.

And cue Ender's completely defensive post about how much he doesn't care and how, because he doesn't "show any emotion" his posts somehow are more factual than everybody elses. Disregard that both are opinions and are in fact, exactly the same.
Jan 27, 2011 9:17pm
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Jan 27, 2011 9:27 PM
Red_Skin_Pride;655787 wrote:And completely devoid of emotion. Because as you know, nothing factual ever contains emotion. I've seen some idiots on this forum and the old place, but I think we found their leader.

And cue Ender's completely defensive post about how much he doesn't care and how, because he doesn't "show any emotion" his posts somehow are more factual than everybody elses. Disregard that both are opinions and are in fact, exactly the same.

But do you have proof, he is their leader? Or are you lying, about knowing who their leader is? He is the "victim" in that post, and now he will cry, and then post a 20 min rebuttal.
Jan 27, 2011 9:27pm
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Jan 27, 2011 9:27 PM
DeyDurkie5;655772 wrote:prove it then you bumbling moron

Bumbling? Lol if so many people werent obsessed with me I wouldnt even post so much. Not my fault what others due.

But please, let me know when I act like those who I stated above and then you might have a point, until then, you dont.

Move along.
Jan 27, 2011 9:27pm
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Jan 27, 2011 9:29 PM
Ender Wiggin;655807 wrote:Bumbling? Lol if so many people werent obsessed with me I wouldnt even post so much. Not my fault what others due.

But please, let me know when I act like those who I stated above and then you might have a point, until then, you dont.

Move along.

It's DO
Jan 27, 2011 9:29pm
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Jan 27, 2011 9:29 PM
Red_Skin_Pride;655787 wrote:And completely devoid of emotion. Because as you know, nothing factual ever contains emotion. I've seen some idiots on this forum and the old place, but I think we found their leader. And cue Ender's completely defensive post about how much he doesn't care and how, because he doesn't "show any emotion" his posts somehow are more factual than everybody elses. Disregard that both are opinions and are in fact, exactly the same.

You see, its easy to point out those who just feel whatever they want regardless of facts or truth or anything. Foregone conclusions abound here it seems.

Once again, never let facts or truth clock your view of ignorance. So cute.

Let me know when I ever make a bold claim with no facts....you know the rest.
Jan 27, 2011 9:29pm
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Jan 27, 2011 9:31 PM
vikingcaptain82;655806 wrote:But do you have proof, he is their leader? Or are you lying, about knowing who their leader is? He is the "victim" in that post, and now he will cry, and then post a 20 min rebuttal.

Ill ask you to point out where I said I was the victim, but like everything else here you wont because you cant, then you will quote a post where in your opinion you think the other person said something that YOU think they said.

I will wait for it.
Jan 27, 2011 9:31pm
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Jan 27, 2011 9:45 PM
Ender Wiggin;655807 wrote:Bumbling? Lol if so many people werent obsessed with me I wouldnt even post so much. Not my fault what others due.

But please, let me know when I act like those who I stated above and then you might have a point, until then, you dont.

Move along.

I don't care what people say to you, I want you to prove to me that you quit humble with facts/quotes from these people you claim think this
Jan 27, 2011 9:45pm
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Jan 27, 2011 9:50 PM
1, you want me to provide evidence for something you claimed? I cant provide evidence for your opinion, you will believe whatever you want whether its right or wrong, nothing anyone can say will change that obviously.

2. Name calling? If were going there you need to add in insults as well, and by that then it means EVERYONE on this board is taking things too seriously, you didnt think that one through well enough.

3. Why make a thread? Why respond to it? Why does anyone make a topic here? Tell me something, why arent you in all the other front page topics asking them why do they care so much and take the subject of their topics so seriously? Like I said a slippery slope, you made your bed now sleep in it, but you wont, youll continue to only see the side that helps you.

4. Because hate is a word that, obviously, those here, using it in cases such as where you got this from havent experienced it. IE would badmouth an activity you havent taken part in? How about say a food you never tried is disgusting? You can tell by the intelligence level that is displayed here that the people throwing the word around in certain topics have no idea what real hate is. IE calling someone a cop hater, not only incorrect but makes it known whos never experienced real hate. That much should be obvious.

5. Saying id leave forever was a hyperbole, akin to I could eat a horse, if you took that literal then you need to step back and go through 6th grade English again to work on your comprehension, but seeing your responses that was already a given.

6. Actually it exhibits YOUR opinion of what you think of a superiority complex. Ive never once thought I was better or worse than anyone here. No one should because no one knows a single thing about the other party. The fact you keep bringing that up shows youre immature to things you dont think others should see their own way.

7. Its funny how youre STILL trying to pawn off your opinion as fact with this whole serious thing, its obvious nothing anyone says will get to you, Talking to you is like talking to my Golden Retriever, except thankfully I dont have to hear hes sad, incorrect assertions. Also funny how that post stemmed from someone who agreed with what I said.....but by all means lets ignore anything that doesnt fit your argument lol.

8. Its not condescending, remember if it looks like a duck(acting like a girl), talks like a duck(acting like a girl), and walks like a duck(acting like a girl) then its probably a duck(acted like a girl). Its funny how you said that to me but you dont want listen to when it applies to you.....where have we seen that before? Oh ya, all your posts.

If you feel like someone has a superiority complex 9/10 that means you have emotional issues yourself that makes you feel inferior. Dont blame your own shortcomings on anyone but yourself.
Jan 27, 2011 9:50pm
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Jan 27, 2011 9:55 PM
DeyDurkie5;655825 wrote:I don't care what people say to you, I want you to prove to me that you quit humble with facts/quotes from these people you claim think this

.....Youre kidding right? You arent really comparing.......nah nevermind, you almost got me.
Jan 27, 2011 9:55pm
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Jan 27, 2011 10:06 PM
Otrap, its also good that you brought up that topic, I had forgotten about it.

Go ahead and re-read it or read and comprehend it better then try and say I take this too serious. I guess the others that agreed with me in there are in the same boat eh?

You made your bed now sleep in it. Or stop posting. I dont really like putting people down where they belong, which is not a superiority complex, its what youve shown with your actions here.

Cheers!
Jan 27, 2011 10:06pm
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Jan 27, 2011 11:23 PM
Ender Wiggin;655862 wrote:Go ahead and re-read it or read and comprehend it better then try and say I take this too serious.
For a guy who claims he doesn't take any of it seriously at all, yes. If you were to admit that you do take that seriously, then I would say you didn't. I'd be touchy about it, too.
Ender Wiggin;655862 wrote:I guess the others that agreed with me in there are in the same boat eh?
If they admit they care, then no. If they've done like you, then yes.
Ender Wiggin;655862 wrote:You made your bed now sleep in it. Or stop posting. I dont really like putting people down where they belong, which is not a superiority complex, its what youve shown with your actions here.
The fact that you knew to preempt that exact statement with one about a superiority complex shows that you know exactly what it proves. Assuming that "down" is where someone "belongs" is nothing short of a statement of superiority. Sorry, kid, but your little-kid schoolyard debating skills put you ... maybe above Gibby in terms of being able to use actual logic.

Judging what you think does and doesn't pass for reasoning, I'm guessing you're either a high school or college student, in which case you're too convinced that you know everything to realize that everyone here knows that you sound like an uneducated, illogical cretin except for you. Joke's on you, kid. This whole thread is a monument to the bed you've made for yourself. If you weren't so damn entertaining with your over-the-top illogical meanderings, peppered with arrogant, albeit unimaginative, put downs and name-calling, there wouldn't be an Ender Wiggin Love Club. Because you lack the maturity to handle anything like that with diplomacy and reasoning, people continue to antagonize you about it. I don't know if you're this way in real life, because the Internet does strange things to people sometimes, but the truth is, the more you post:

(a) the more it shows you care,
(b) the more you sound like you're a young kid trying to use words and ideologies beyond your education level (not successfully, I might add), and
(c) the more fun people are having at your expense, because you're doing exactly what people come to this thread to see: the little kid pontificate in futile failure.

I don't have anything against you, and I don't actually think you're as arrogant as you try to be on here (I used to do the same thing when I was about 16 ... ask anyone here who was on the Huddle that long ago), but if we started a thread that asked if Ender Wiggin comes across as an arrogant kid who doesn't actually know what he's talking about, I'm pretty sure 100% of the voters would say "yes" (except you, if you voted).

It stinks, but sometimes taking your lumps and learning from them is the best you can do.
Jan 27, 2011 11:23pm
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Jan 27, 2011 11:25 PM
I have proof right here

Jan 27, 2011 11:25pm
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Jan 27, 2011 11:32 PM
Ender Wiggin;655812 wrote:You see, its easy to point out those who just feel whatever they want regardless of facts or truth or anything. Foregone conclusions abound here it seems.

Once again, never let facts or truth clock your view of ignorance. So cute.

Let me know when I ever make a bold claim with no facts....you know the rest.
You're right, so shove your whining up your ass. Fact, you could stop posting tomorrow, and everyone on this board would be happy. Go ahead and take a poll.
Jan 27, 2011 11:32pm
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Jan 28, 2011 1:59 AM
Ender Wiggin;655812 wrote: Let me know when I ever make a bold claim with no facts....you know the rest.

so people only have to back up BOLD claims, not minor claims? hence, why you never back up anything you say.
Jan 28, 2011 1:59am
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Feb 23, 2011 9:30 PM
this
Feb 23, 2011 9:30pm
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Feb 23, 2011 10:18 PM
-Society-;689393 wrote:this

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Feb 23, 2011 10:18pm
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Feb 23, 2011 10:42 PM
Ender Wiggin;647475 wrote:.....Actually no im not, the people who this is directed towards know full well what im talking about. If you want to be caught up though I can quote posts.

Short version: Ytown made a post a long time ago saying the he knows im black, when I told him for any sort of proof since 1, ive never even talked about myself in the capacity, and 2 it was irrelevant to the topic, he says "I remember it from on JJ" I said thats BS because no one knows what I posted under there. He replied "I have the memory like an elephant" so I told him to provide any sort of proof because he was full of shit.

Fast forward to yesterday, he tries to act like he was "trying to be nice" and he PMd me because "it was the courteous thing to do" then I quoted where he actually said that in a topic and not in a PM, catching him in his lie about trying to make himself look good. He hasnt posted since he was caught lying.

LJ next post.
Well, are you black?
Feb 23, 2011 10:42pm
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Feb 23, 2011 10:47 PM
Ender Wiggin;653734 wrote:Nah, I wish though. A lot of these clowns would be hauled away for being so stupidly silly.

Oh and if Justin wants to clean this place up for the new owners then it should get a little more civil.

So cutting out bullshit like this what this topic is about would help alot.

But apparently Justin likes to be a hypocrite lol.

JJ will clean this place up when he takes over next month.
Feb 23, 2011 10:47pm
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Feb 23, 2011 10:49 PM
Password - Relevance? I made mention of anything he said not once.
Feb 23, 2011 10:49pm