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Jan 26, 2011 11:09 PM
Red_Skin_Pride;654766 wrote:Not like you would see us in the real world, I'm not coming over to your grandma's basement and interrupting your porn session.

I'd love to see you in the real world, and say half of the shit you say on here to someone's face. I can tell by the way you act on here that you're either somewhere between the age of 13-16, or your one of the most feminine men that I would ever meet. You act like you either haven't hit puberty yet, or your a woman, plain and simple. You complain like a woman, you nitpick like a woman, and then you turn around and call us all "silly girls" because we tell you, that you are the one who in fact, acts like a woman. That's nothing against women, women and men are different. But your a man, please act like it, for once in your life.

Bravo!! There is someone in tune with the reality of this situation!!
Jan 26, 2011 11:09pm
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Jan 26, 2011 11:10 PM
First of all, take a deep breath, man. Stop feeling the need to get so defensive. After all, this is just the Internet, and you don't care about what is posted on here, right?
Ender Wiggin;654749 wrote:Ohh I see, this is another case where someone else tries to tell another person how they feel about something. Hmm, tell me if I think the weather here is too warm will you?
I'm not telling you how you feel. I'm saying how you're coming across, and that I, and anyone who reads what you post, will take THAT into more account than what you try to tell us in a defensive tone.
Ender Wiggin;654749 wrote:How I act? I post topics here, I get trolled, I defend myself ...
Wait, why are you so quick to need to defend yourself? This is the Internet, and it's not a big deal to you ... except that you're showing, even with this post, that it's at least somewhat important to you that anonymous people on this message board don't get to say anything you don't like without you rebutting it in a snide, self-righteous tone.

But right, you're not acting like it matters. Not at all.
Ender Wiggin;654749 wrote:... yet im in the wrong even when people agreed with things ive said. Makes sense, youre on a roll.
I never said you were "in the wrong." All I said was that if you ACTUALLY didn't care about a silly message board on the Internet, there would have been no reason for you to, immediately after your rebuttal on another thread, start a thread dedicated to why we can't have a serious discussion here. It furthered my point when you continued to defend the thread by making sure that you don't let even one post get past without you making sure you set that person straight.

Yeah, you don't care at all, do you ...
Ender Wiggin;654749 wrote:Now youre telling me that im fibbing? Yep, youre officially a sheep, just following what others say and not thinking of anything yourself.
Ender, what I've said has nothing to do with what others have said. Guess what, though? Sometimes, when a lot of people see the same thing ... it's because they're right, and that's how it looks.
Ender Wiggin;654749 wrote:Nothing ive ever said has been contreversial or brought up in an aggressive manner, I dont think you realize all this Ender Wiggin love came from immature people who couldnt accept that someone had an opinion different than their own, then other immature people chiming in en masse while the intelligent posters were ignored.
I don't know what you're talking about with the "Ender Wiggin love," and I'll refrain from the adolescent there. Here's what I observe, for someone who cares so little, you seem to care an awful lot. That's not jumping on a bandwagon. That's just believing if something walks and talks like a duck, it's probably a duck (even if it tells you it isn't).
Jan 26, 2011 11:10pm
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Jan 26, 2011 11:13 PM
Red_Skin_Pride;654766 wrote:Not like you would see us in the real world, I'm not coming over to your grandma's basement and interrupting your porn session.

I'd love to see you in the real world, and say half of the shit you say on here to someone's face. I can tell by the way you act on here that you're either somewhere between the age of 13-16, or your one of the most feminine men that I would ever meet. You act like you either haven't hit puberty yet, or your a woman, plain and simple. You complain like a woman, you nitpick like a woman, and then you turn around and call us all "silly girls" because we tell you, that you are the one who in fact, acts like a woman. That's nothing against women, women and men are different. But your a man, please act like it, for once in your life.

My grandmothers live in North East Ohio still. Im here in Sunny Orange County, but nice baseless immature assumption, lol, and people like to talk shit about me? HILARIOUS.

The rest of your post is....omg who wouldve thought.....immature crap that can be discarded like the trash you are.

Its funny you tell me to be a man when the whole purpose of this topic was to get ideas on why people dont back up what they say.....like men(adults)

I see that you are not smart enough to see that as you just showed your true and childish colors with your little rant.

Grow up little boy.
Jan 26, 2011 11:13pm
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Jan 26, 2011 11:13 PM
O-Trap;654779 wrote:First of all, take a deep breath, man. Stop feeling the need to get so defensive. After all, this is just the Internet, and you don't care about what is posted on here, right?



I'm not telling you how you feel. I'm saying how you're coming across, and that I, and anyone who reads what you post, will take THAT into more account than what you try to tell us in a defensive tone.



Wait, why are you so quick to need to defend yourself? This is the Internet, and it's not a big deal to you ... except that you're showing, even with this post, that it's at least somewhat important to you that anonymous people on this message board don't get to say anything you don't like without you rebutting it in a snide, self-righteous tone.

But right, you're not acting like it matters. Not at all.



I never said you were "in the wrong." All I said was that if you ACTUALLY didn't care about a silly message board on the Internet, there would have been no reason for you to, immediately after your rebuttal on another thread, start a thread dedicated to why we can't have a serious discussion here. It furthered my point when you continued to defend the thread by making sure that you don't let even one post get past without you making sure you set that person straight.

Yeah, you don't care at all, do you ...



Ender, what I've said has nothing to do with what others have said. Guess what, though? Sometimes, when a lot of people see the same thing ... it's because they're right, and that's how it looks.



I don't know what you're talking about with the "Ender Wiggin love," and I'll refrain from the adolescent there. Here's what I observe, for someone who cares so little, you seem to care an awful lot. That's not jumping on a bandwagon. That's just believing if something walks and talks like a duck, it's probably a duck (even if it tells you it isn't).

Best post ever
Jan 26, 2011 11:13pm
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Jan 26, 2011 11:14 PM
september63;654776 wrote:Bravo!! There is someone in tune with the reality of this situation!!

This is reality how exactly? His opinion of something hes having an emotionally fueled guess at is reality now?

A new level of retard has shown its face here.
Jan 26, 2011 11:14pm
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Jan 26, 2011 11:15 PM
coyotes22;654787 wrote:Best post ever

You have low low standards, not surprising given the intellectual level you have displayed.
Jan 26, 2011 11:15pm
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Jan 26, 2011 11:25 PM
O-Trap;654779 wrote:First of all, take a deep breath, man. Stop feeling the need to get so defensive. After all, this is just the Internet, and you don't care about what is posted on here, right?
Ironic considering you are the one posting and all im doing is defending. I mean, are you sure you arent the one that cares so much? I guess youre only going to say this when its convenient for you. Interesting.
O-Trap;654779 wrote:I'm not telling you how you feel. I'm saying how you're coming across, and that I, and anyone who reads what you post, will take THAT into more account than what you try to tell us in a defensive tone.
Ya, youre right, you didnt tell me that I thought this was important, that was another o town, you didnt say I was fibbing either, another otown, my bad.

O-Trap;654779 wrote:Wait, why are you so quick to need to defend yourself? This is the Internet, and it's not a big deal to you ... except that you're showing, even with this post, that it's at least somewhat important to you that anonymous people on this message board don't get to say anything you don't like without you rebutting it in a snide, self-righteous tone.
But right, you're not acting like it matters. Not at all.
The inverse, why are you so quick in talking about someone? This is the internet, its not a big deal to you? Except youre showing even with this post that its atleast somewhat important to anonymous people on this message board don't get to say anything you don't like without you rebutting it in a snide, self-righteous tone.
But right, you're not acting like it matters. Not at all.
O-Trap;654779 wrote:I never said you were "in the wrong." All I said was that if you ACTUALLY didn't care about a silly message board on the Internet, there would have been no reason for you to, immediately after your rebuttal on another thread, start a thread dedicated to why we can't have a serious discussion here. It furthered my point when you continued to defend the thread by making sure that you don't let even one post get past without you making sure you set that person straight.
Yeah, you don't care at all, do you ...
Whats funny is that you are accosting me, yet when I said something similar it wasnt received the same way. Its not my fault that some people cant post in an intelligent fashion. But I forgot, you decide who takes things seriously or not. Yeah, you don't care at all, do you ...

O-Trap;654779 wrote:Ender, what I've said has nothing to do with what others have said. Guess what, though? Sometimes, when a lot of people see the same thing ... it's because they're right, and that's how it looks.
I don't know what you're talking about with the "Ender Wiggin love," and I'll refrain from the adolescent there. Here's what I observe, for someone who cares so little, you seem to care an awful lot. That's not jumping on a bandwagon. That's just believing if something walks and talks like a duck, it's probably a duck (even if it tells you it isn't).
Youve guessed wrong then, because O Trap, what about the people that agreed with what I said, surely since they agreed they are just as bad as me right? Yes the Ender Love, the thing that brings immature comments to any thread I post in regardless of relevance. Ohh they never see that people agreed with me, thus making them look bad.

Never do we let the truth or facts block the way of ignorance lol.

You are trying too hard, you are nothing but a sheep. Sad.
Jan 26, 2011 11:25pm
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Jan 26, 2011 11:26 PM
coyotes22;654787 wrote:Best post ever

Agree.
Jan 26, 2011 11:26pm
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Jan 26, 2011 11:32 PM
september63;654808 wrote:Agree.

Even though a post is filled with incorrect information, that is still the best post ever?

Future of our species is doomed.
Jan 26, 2011 11:32pm
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Jan 26, 2011 11:34 PM
all in favor of ignoring wiggin so that he goes away, please begin now
Jan 26, 2011 11:34pm
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Jan 26, 2011 11:38 PM
DeyDurkie5;654821 wrote:all in favor of ignoring wiggin so that he goes away, please begin now

Funny how all this started because some people couldnt accept an opinion that was different. I guess the people who agreed with me are just as bad right?

Lol.
Jan 26, 2011 11:38pm
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Jan 26, 2011 11:41 PM
DeyDurkie5;654821 wrote:all in favor of ignoring wiggin so that he goes away, please begin now

Im in.
Jan 26, 2011 11:41pm
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Jan 26, 2011 11:43 PM
Ender Wiggin;654805 wrote:Ironic considering you are the one posting and all im doing is defending. I mean, are you sure you arent the one that cares so much? I guess youre only going to say this when its convenient for you. Interesting.
It's not THAT you're posting. It's WHAT you're posting.

Let me ask you this. If you heard someone in a mass of people screaming, "I don't care about bicycles! I don't care about bicycles!" and if any person dared to say to them, "Um, you sound like you might," they quickly jump to defend themselves, what would you think?

I was pointing out the inconsistency. That's all.
Ender Wiggin;654805 wrote:Ya, youre right, you didnt tell me that I thought this was important, that was another o town, you didnt say I was fibbing either, another otown, my bad.
Cute with the name. I like that.

Every post you've made has made it look like you care, and a lot, at that.

Just as the kid screaming he hates bicycles is fibbing ...

It's that whole walking and talking like a duck thing.
Ender Wiggin;654805 wrote:The inverse, why are you so quick in talking about someone? This is the internet, its not a big deal to you? Except youre showing even with this post that its atleast somewhat important to anonymous people on this message board don't get to say anything you don't like without you rebutting it in a snide, self-righteous tone.
But right, you're not acting like it matters. Not at all.
I do think that dialogue matters here as much as it does anywhere. Thus, I suppose I do care to some degree, particularly when it comes to logical incongruity. Never said I didn't.
Ender Wiggin;654805 wrote:Whats funny is that you are accosting me, yet when I said something similar it wasnt received the same way. Its not my fault that some people cant post in an intelligent fashion. But I forgot, you decide who takes things seriously or not. Yeah, you don't care at all, do you ...
Never said I didn't.

By the way, I'd hardly consider any of my posts "accosting." I hope you don't take them that way. If you are, I suppose that's again telling of how you approach message boards.
Ender Wiggin;654805 wrote:Youve guessed wrong then, because O Trap, what about the people that agreed with what I said, surely since they agreed they are just as bad as me right? Yes the Ender Love, the thing that brings immature comments to any thread I post in regardless of relevance. Ohh they never see that people agreed with me, thus making them look bad.
You're missing my point. I'm not talking about other topics, and technically, I agree with the premise of this thread myself (I also dislike statements without validation). I am talking strictly about your constant declaration that you don't care about the message board. It doesn't seem like a single person thus far actually believes you. I'm suggesting that there is a very good reason for that ... the way you come across, which speaks with more resolve than the words you've tried to communicate.

A philosopher once told me, "You can tell me what you profess, but given time, you'll show me what you believe."

I suppose that's been my whole approach to this. You've told everyone what you profess. What you show, however, is that you care.
Ender Wiggin;654805 wrote:Never do we let the truth or facts block the way of ignorance lol.
Indeed.
Ender Wiggin;654805 wrote:You are trying too hard, you are nothing but a sheep. Sad.

What are you hoping to accomplish by this? I mean, I don't mind you thinking this, as thus far, your defensive positioning seems to have you grasping at straws, so I don't take it personally.
Jan 26, 2011 11:43pm
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Jan 26, 2011 11:44 PM
DeyDurkie5;654821 wrote:all in favor of ignoring wiggin so that he goes away, please begin now

Aw, c'mon. This is fun! :D

But not too fun. After all, it needs to be taken seriously, and backed up with proof. ;)
Jan 26, 2011 11:44pm
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Jan 26, 2011 11:46 PM
Will tell you where youre wrong after im done at the gym.

By gym I mean the bowflex in my grammas basement.

Lol silly kids
Jan 26, 2011 11:46pm
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Jan 26, 2011 11:48 PM
Ender Wiggin;654838 wrote:Will tell you where youre wrong after im done ...

Tell me this doesn't sound like a foregone conclusion. :D I love it!

Now we've got someone who:

(a) doesn't care about what is said on this message board, and yet
(b) is making plans to come back here and post a rebuttal.
Jan 26, 2011 11:48pm
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Jan 27, 2011 2:00 AM
Ok, first off. Its ironic that you are saying that I care so much when you are putting in twice as much effort to prove im wrong when theres nothing to be right or wrong about. And you are trying as hard as you can yet you dont realize that once again you are trying to pass off your opinion as concrete fact. There is no inconsistency at all.

Its WHAT im posting? This is a messageboard, I assume you will be going into EVERY topic and asking people why they care so much right? I mean its only fair seeing as this is a topic just like any other, where were you when Capone is trolling everyones topics or when GoChiefs and Ytown are lying their asses off? Surely since you care so much to hang from my sack you would be all over theres......like I said, Ender Wiggin Lovers.

By your logic EVERY post that ANYONE makes will make it look like they care, where do you draw the line? I could turn this around and ask you why do you care so much to type this only for it to be shot down just like most of the other people who are obsessed with me so much to try and start something. YOu see you are on a slippery slope, you try and apply something to one side yet you will refuse to do it to the other side as well. That wont work sport.

Someone once told me "Actions speak louder than words" Now we are on a messageboard so you will obviously have to replace words with text or what have you. Thats all ive been saying.

Heres the thing you seem to be missing......All the people in the Ender Wiggin Lovers club are coming after me, trying to start shit with me, do you see me going after them first? No.

The fact that you are trying to say I care when all im doing is deflecting back. Think of it like fencing im a Parry and Riposte specialist, Im there waiting for someone to make a mistake, im there waiting for them to overeact then I use their aggression against them. Im the Form 3 Soresu, im the Hapkido. If you see me posting alot, im on the defensive, its not my fault that im so popular to the immature people here that cant accept an opinion different then their own.

I know what youre going to say...."Why do you care blah blah garbage" What would happen if I turned that right back to you? Or the attacker? Ohhhh sort of like ive been doing? Ya, I get this response that I get here. The strongest attack is a good defense.

Its funnier how you tell me im taking this seriously while ignoring everything else, typical where you will only use what helps you and ignore the rest, even though you yourself have admitted to caring about these sorts of things. You wont see me saying that, but im sure you will claim that and nothing anyone can say will change that and you will continue to pass your opinion off as fact.

I respond to stuff like this because I find joy in a good debate, I dont get them here because as you can see the intelligence level is quite low as people either resort to lying or making shit up or not accepting someones differing opinion. Will I lose sleep over this? No. I will actually sleep better knowing that I will never be in as sad of a state as the posters here. Oh but I guess that means I care lololol.

Lastly, What are you trying to accomplish? You say im grasping at straws? Id ask where have I done that, show me some proof? However I know you wont, because you have none, like I said, you would actually have a case if I were one of the people that does what this topic was about before it got trolled. But until then you dont, when I go on the offensive, which is rare, then you may have something.
Jan 27, 2011 2:00am
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Jan 27, 2011 2:03 AM
O-Trap;654840 wrote:Tell me this doesn't sound like a foregone conclusion. :D I love it!
Now we've got someone who:
(a) doesn't care about what is said on this message board, and yet
(b) is making plans to come back here and post a rebuttal.

If it looks like a duck(incorrect assertion), talks like a duck(incorrect assertion), then it is probably a duck(incorrect assertion)

I love it!

Now weve got someone who:

a. Ignored every other point that was made aside from the ones she could use, to try and make it her own opinion fact.
b. Jumps to conclusions without knowing accurate backstory or history and shes now getting angry that her argument was shot down.


*sigh* I thought I had a good debater, sadly I was mistaken.
Jan 27, 2011 2:03am
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Jan 27, 2011 5:29 AM
Lmao! Yet, ANOTHER posts where I'm mentioned. Who's obsessed with who? Who's on who's nut sack? Lol! I love it! Keep 'em comin' sunshine.
Jan 27, 2011 5:29am
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Jan 27, 2011 12:24 PM
This is fun!
Ender Wiggin;654924 wrote:Ok, first off. Its ironic that you are saying that I care so much when you are putting in twice as much effort to prove im wrong when theres nothing to be right or wrong about. And you are trying as hard as you can yet you dont realize that once again you are trying to pass off your opinion as concrete fact. There is no inconsistency at all.
Someone who spends too much time caring about whether or not people think they care ... yes, that is an inconsistency.
Ender Wiggin;654924 wrote:Its WHAT im posting? This is a messageboard, I assume you will be going into EVERY topic and asking people why they care so much right? I mean its only fair seeing as this is a topic just like any other, where were you when Capone is trolling everyones topics or when GoChiefs and Ytown are lying their asses off? Surely since you care so much to hang from my sack you would be all over theres......like I said, Ender Wiggin Lovers.
If I come across others blithering such word vomit with an over-aggressive, ill-placed superiority complex, then I'll comment on it if I feel like it. If I don't, then I won't. That simple.

Where was I? I don't know. Not on the message board, or at least not in those threads. It doesn't really bother me that I "missed" them. Not sure why it bothers you so much.

And if you're going to try to sound like a big boy, able to engage in normal discussion, probably saying things like "hang from my sack" would be counter-productive. Plus, such terminology makes you sound upset ... which would indicate that you actually care about what I'm saying.

But this is a message board, so you don't, right?
Ender Wiggin;654924 wrote:By your logic EVERY post that ANYONE makes will make it look like they care, where do you draw the line? I could turn this around and ask you why do you care so much to type this only for it to be shot down just like most of the other people who are obsessed with me so much to try and start something. YOu see you are on a slippery slope, you try and apply something to one side yet you will refuse to do it to the other side as well. That wont work sport.
To some degree, it would appear that everyone cares. If not about the message board, at least about the topic they reference. Why else would someone post?

There is no line. Why should there be?

What makes your case amusing is the fact that you try so hard to defend the position that you don't care. That's really the difference.

You're not the first person who has melted down over this same thing, and I pointed it out then, too. Relax.
Ender Wiggin;654924 wrote:Someone once told me "Actions speak louder than words" Now we are on a messageboard so you will obviously have to replace words with text or what have you. Thats all ive been saying.
Even then, though, you're dealing with grammatical style, colloquialisms, and other parts of speech that can be communicated over a message board. Your words, in and of themseves, are saying you don't care. Everything else is saying you do. My initial comment was that I thought those two facts were funny, in light of one another.
Ender Wiggin;654924 wrote:Heres the thing you seem to be missing......All the people in the Ender Wiggin Lovers club are coming after me, trying to start shit with me, do you see me going after them first? No.
I don't know. I haven't really been paying attention, though it seems I've stumbled into some little self-sustaining melodramatic episode. I, personally, wasn't "trying to start shit with [you]," though. I made a passing observation.
Ender Wiggin;654924 wrote:The fact that you are trying to say I care when all im doing is deflecting back.
Deflection is a sign of something to hide. Just sayin' ...
Ender Wiggin;654924 wrote:Think of it like fencing im a Parry and Riposte specialist, Im there waiting for someone to make a mistake, im there waiting for them to overeact then I use their aggression against them. Im the Form 3 Soresu, im the Hapkido. If you see me posting alot, im on the defensive, its not my fault that im so popular to the immature people here that cant accept an opinion different then their own.
The problem is that you are always ready, just waiting for someone to thrust. If you actually didn't care, you wouldn't be so poised to fence in the first place. If they did, and you didn't care at all, you would probably just let it go, because what that person said, even who they are, doesn't matter to you.

But your actions have been just the opposite.

To be perfectly honest, this fan club you have probably wouldn't be nearly as interested in pecking at you if you didn't react like you were on the brink of a meltdown every single time. I dare you to try it. I bet they all go away.
Ender Wiggin;654924 wrote:I know what youre going to say...."Why do you care blah blah garbage" What would happen if I turned that right back to you? Or the attacker? Ohhhh sort of like ive been doing? Ya, I get this response that I get here. The strongest attack is a good defense.
Seriously, not only are you taking this seriously, but by using such colloquialisms, I'd say you're taking it way too seriously.
Ender Wiggin;654924 wrote:Its funnier how you tell me im taking this seriously while ignoring everything else, typical where you will only use what helps you and ignore the rest, even though you yourself have admitted to caring about these sorts of things. You wont see me saying that, but im sure you will claim that and nothing anyone can say will change that and you will continue to pass your opinion off as fact.
First, what is the "everything else?" Since we're so interested in backing up what we say with proof, can you elaborate on what this "everything else" is? And please use facts to support.

What of me saying I care? I do. Can't help what I care about, and I really don't care if people know. Many topics on here are ones I take seriously. Intelligent discourse is something I take seriously. Can I shoot the breeze without care as well? Sure, but there's a blend of both on the message board, so sometimes I care, and sometimes I don't. What does that have to do with you also caring, but insisting you don't?

The way you have engaged yourself thus far is anything but opinion. However, saying that something is someone's opinion IS a popular cop-out contemporarily. Feel free to use it to your heart's content.
Ender Wiggin;654924 wrote:I respond to stuff like this because I find joy in a good debate, I dont get them here because as you can see the intelligence level is quite low as people either resort to lying or making shit up or not accepting someones differing opinion. Will I lose sleep over this? No. I will actually sleep better knowing that I will never be in as sad of a state as the posters here. Oh but I guess that means I care lololol.
Since I'm okay with repeating myself: It's not that you post, or even how often you post. It's WHAT you post. For someone who enjoys good debate, you seem to spend most of your time engrossed in personal squabbles. I would think (and this is conjecture, not fact, I'll admit) that if you were so keen on intelligent debate, these kinds of urinating contests wouldn't interest you. Yet your actions say they do.
Ender Wiggin;654924 wrote:Lastly, What are you trying to accomplish?
Nothing really. I was bored when I started this, and who doesn't love watching someone with a superiority complex word vomit? Were you around for NCF? He used to do it a lot. You should see it from the outside in sometime. It's funny to watch.
Ender Wiggin;654924 wrote:You say im grasping at straws? Id ask where have I done that, show me some proof? However I know you wont, because you have none, like I said, you would actually have a case if I were one of the people that does what this topic was about before it got trolled. But until then you dont, when I go on the offensive, which is rare, then you may have something.
If I care enough (;)) to do this over lunch, I may take you up on it.
Ender Wiggin;654925 wrote:If it looks like a duck(incorrect assertion), talks like a duck(incorrect assertion), then it is probably a duck(incorrect assertion)
Since you're not looking at yourself from the outside in (as it's impossible for a person to do), you don't really have a say as to how you look to be acting and talking. You can say what you THINK you look and sound like, but that's about it. I'm willing to bet that if you ask anyone else who has seen this thread, they'd say the same as I have, regardless of whether or not they're in your love club.

Sorry, but regardless of how you THINK you come across, what I've been telling you is how you're ACTUALLY coming across. Thus, yes, if it walks like a duck (you are), and it talks like a duck (you are), then I'm going to guess that it's a duck.
Ender Wiggin;654925 wrote:Now weve got someone who:

a. Ignored every other point that was made aside from the ones she could use, to try and make it her own opinion fact.
Which of your points have I ignored. As I recall, I've pretty much addressed each one, point-by-point, for several posts now. Since you're making a claim about someone else, please back it up with proof.
Ender Wiggin;654925 wrote:b. Jumps to conclusions without knowing accurate backstory or history and shes now getting angry that her argument was shot down.
In terms of the backstory, I'll give you that. The backstory has nothing to do with my point, though. Someone who gets worked up and/or exhibits a superiority complex about making sure people know they don't care ... is funny. You have to at least admit that.

Oh, and "angry" might be a bit of a stretch. LOL!
Jan 27, 2011 12:24pm
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Jan 27, 2011 12:36 PM
O-Trap;655196 wrote:This is fun!



Someone who spends too much time caring about whether or not people think they care ... yes, that is an inconsistency.



If I come across others blithering such word vomit with an over-aggressive, ill-placed superiority complex, then I'll comment on it if I feel like it. If I don't, then I won't. That simple.

Where was I? I don't know. Not on the message board, or at least not in those threads. It doesn't really bother me that I "missed" them. Not sure why it bothers you so much.

And if you're going to try to sound like a big boy, able to engage in normal discussion, probably saying things like "hang from my sack" would be counter-productive. Plus, such terminology makes you sound upset ... which would indicate that you actually care about what I'm saying.

But this is a message board, so you don't, right?



To some degree, it would appear that everyone cares. If not about the message board, at least about the topic they reference. Why else would someone post?

There is no line. Why should there be?

What makes your case amusing is the fact that you try so hard to defend the position that you don't care. That's really the difference.

You're not the first person who has melted down over this same thing, and I pointed it out then, too. Relax.



Even then, though, you're dealing with grammatical style, colloquialisms, and other parts of speech that can be communicated over a message board. Your words, in and of themseves, are saying you don't care. Everything else is saying you do. My initial comment was that I thought those two facts were funny, in light of one another.



I don't know. I haven't really been paying attention, though it seems I've stumbled into some little self-sustaining melodramatic episode. I, personally, wasn't "trying to start shit with [you]," though. I made a passing observation.



Deflection is a sign of something to hide. Just sayin' ...



The problem is that you are always ready, just waiting for someone to thrust. If you actually didn't care, you wouldn't be so poised to fence in the first place. If they did, and you didn't care at all, you would probably just let it go, because what that person said, even who they are, doesn't matter to you.

But your actions have been just the opposite.

To be perfectly honest, this fan club you have probably wouldn't be nearly as interested in pecking at you if you didn't react like you were on the brink of a meltdown every single time. I dare you to try it. I bet they all go away.



Seriously, not only are you taking this seriously, but by using such colloquialisms, I'd say you're taking it way too seriously.



First, what is the "everything else?" Since we're so interested in backing up what we say with proof, can you elaborate on what this "everything else" is? And please use facts to support.

What of me saying I care? I do. Can't help what I care about, and I really don't care if people know. Many topics on here are ones I take seriously. Intelligent discourse is something I take seriously. Can I shoot the breeze without care as well? Sure, but there's a blend of both on the message board, so sometimes I care, and sometimes I don't. What does that have to do with you also caring, but insisting you don't?

The way you have engaged yourself thus far is anything but opinion. However, saying that something is someone's opinion IS a popular cop-out contemporarily. Feel free to use it to your heart's content.



Since I'm okay with repeating myself: It's not that you post, or even how often you post. It's WHAT you post. For someone who enjoys good debate, you seem to spend most of your time engrossed in personal squabbles. I would think (and this is conjecture, not fact, I'll admit) that if you were so keen on intelligent debate, these kinds of urinating contests wouldn't interest you. Yet your actions say they do.



Nothing really. I was bored when I started this, and who doesn't love watching someone with a superiority complex word vomit? Were you around for NCF? He used to do it a lot. You should see it from the outside in sometime. It's funny to watch.



If I care enough (;)) to do this over lunch, I may take you up on it.



Since you're not looking at yourself from the outside in (as it's impossible for a person to do), you don't really have a say as to how you look to be acting and talking. You can say what you THINK you look and sound like, but that's about it. I'm willing to bet that if you ask anyone else who has seen this thread, they'd say the same as I have, regardless of whether or not they're in your love club.

Sorry, but regardless of how you THINK you come across, what I've been telling you is how you're ACTUALLY coming across. Thus, yes, if it walks like a duck (you are), and it talks like a duck (you are), then I'm going to guess that it's a duck.



Which of your points have I ignored. As I recall, I've pretty much addressed each one, point-by-point, for several posts now. Since you're making a claim about someone else, please back it up with proof.



In terms of the backstory, I'll give you that. The backstory has nothing to do with my point, though. Someone who gets worked up and/or exhibits a superiority complex about making sure people know they don't care ... is funny. You have to at least admit that.

Oh, and "angry" might be a bit of a stretch. LOL!

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Jan 27, 2011 12:36pm
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Jan 27, 2011 5:30 PM
Theres no inconsistency because this is all coming about from your opinion....which you are trying to pass off as fact.

Example, you keep saying this is bothering me, you are putting so much effort into making it seem like your point is fact when its not.

I already mentioned why im responding, but as I mentioned, youve already came to your own conclusion and are ignorant of the fact that there are other trains of thought, as displayed by your back and forth posts that you are only trying to apply to one side. Doesnt work like that.

What really makes this amusing is that, like I said already, you are trying to pass off opinion as fact while disregarding everything that was said. In fact, you are the one that cares above anyone else because you have ignored everything but whats come out of your own mouth.

I see you dont know what deflection means, I used deflection is in defense like in Fencing, im deflecting attacks, deflecting is a defense in this case of many attackers ont he offensive. Not surprising that you missed the parallel I made with forms of sword combat and tried to apply your OWN meaning of what was said to work for you.......Ya like youve been doing this whole time.

The fact that you jsut said I was on the verge of a meltdown shows you arent listening, you are just trying, and failing to stir the pot. As I said you have your own conclusions that nothing can change. I cant help that you feel this way, no matter how wrong you are. But by all means please continue to ignore everything but what you think helps your cause lol.

There are no colloquialisms, they are anologies to help less intelligent better relate to whats being discussed, once again ignoring everything but you want.

The endgame of this is that you are only hearing what you want to hear, it doesnt matter what anyone says you are going to continue to believe that I care so much and using me responding as fuel......even though you will ignore the rest of what was said.

Its funny how you said I made a forgone conclusion when thats the basis of all your posts.

Feel free to try again, you will suffer the same fate since I enjoy doing this (I of course mean I am taking this seriously)

I hope you realize the only one taking this seriously is yourself, but please do continue on putting that notion on others. lol
Jan 27, 2011 5:30pm