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Jan 24, 2011 8:33 PM
Red_Skin_Pride;651114 wrote:Well if we don't have to be perfect grammatically, why do we have to prove anything? Last time I checked, no one put you in charge of making rules around here. You don't have any room to say "oh, we can let grammar slide, but you HAVE to prove what you say to me". As long as I'm saying what I think and saying what I intend to well enough for people to understand, why should I have to prove anything? That's your logic right? I think you are the one grasping at straws, and have been for some time now. I'd rather correct grammar than try to correct the way the 99% of us with common sense on this board, post their opinions.

You dont, but if you make a claim then dont try and pass it off as fact if you have no evidence, thats the thing. You are comparing grammar with content, I hope you see how stupid that is. They are unrelated.

What you said is not my logic, my logic is simple, if you claim something, at least have SOMETHING that backs up what you say.

Opinions are fine, no one has ever questioned that, its when people try and pawn off an opinion as fact with no evidence.

Now once again ill ask you are the people who agreed with what I said all the immature names you called me as well?

Your post says you dont like me because of the WAY I post and not what I discuss, makes sense. The fact that you even insinuated something about age shows you are just trolling.

I will end with this. If you find a post of me making a bold claim of someone with no support like you are doing, I will Paypal you $100.
Jan 24, 2011 8:33pm
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Jan 24, 2011 8:38 PM
Actually I can say it more simple.

Dont start what you cant finish.

Thats the easiest thing someone can say.
Jan 24, 2011 8:38pm
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Jan 24, 2011 8:41 PM
Also, why dont you cry about the known trolls like Capone who goes into any topic and posts only "Al Sharpton" a bunch of times.

I question your motives, you dont seem to see the reason in anything and post very emotionally.
Jan 24, 2011 8:41pm
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Jan 25, 2011 6:16 PM
Ender Wiggin;650830 wrote:I was talking about him complaining about multiple messages in a row. Not the content of messages. IE, why bitch about that but not how everyones posts contain numerous grammatical errors.

That should be glaringly obvious.

I dont recall you posting in the other thread, but if you had glanced over them the content of this topic will make sense to you.

I did look it over. I actually saw it before you started this thread, which is why I posted so early on this one. This topic makes sense if you take the forum too seriously. A simple reply on that same thread requesting validation for such a claim would have sufficed. Instead, you felt the need to create an entire thread dedicated to it. As such, this might be one of the most unnecessary threads on here. It's neither informative nor entertaining, and based on the replies (which I could have told you were coming), you're either oblivious for not knowing those replies were coming or your intention was to stir up trouble.

Well done.
Jan 25, 2011 6:16pm
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Jan 25, 2011 6:35 PM
O-Trap;652841 wrote:I did look it over. I actually saw it before you started this thread, which is why I posted so early on this one. This topic makes sense if you take the forum too seriously. A simple reply on that same thread requesting validation for such a claim would have sufficed. Instead, you felt the need to create an entire thread dedicated to it. As such, this might be one of the most unnecessary threads on here. It's neither informative nor entertaining, and based on the replies (which I could have told you were coming), you're either oblivious for not knowing those replies were coming or your intention was to stir up trouble.
Well done.

If thats what you got out of this then I dont know what to tell you. This topic is to see why people do such things, to get opinions from other posters about the issue. Theres no validation, just a simple topic asking a question just like a lot of other topics. Its not my fault that the people who you said you saw coming then thats not my fault either, I cant control who posts. If they arent mature enough to post without trolling then no one can help them. There were several people who were able to post fine so what you said doesnt make total sense.

I dont think anyone takes the forum seriously, you can find plenty of topics and posts about this issue but im sure this isnt affecting anyones lives. People would like it others didnt make bold claims with no evidence. Which is why this topic asks the question.

What a concept....
Jan 25, 2011 6:35pm
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Jan 25, 2011 9:36 PM
Ender Wiggin;652871 wrote:I dont think anyone takes the forum seriously
Ender Wiggin;652871 wrote:People would like it others didnt make bold claims with no evidence. Which is why this topic asks the question.
If you don't take this forum seriously (as you, yourself, assert that nobody does), then why does it bother you that someone might make a baseless assertion here so much that you needed to start a thread about it?
Jan 25, 2011 9:36pm
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Jan 25, 2011 9:43 PM
O-Trap;653188 wrote:If you don't take this forum seriously (as you, yourself, assert that nobody does), then why does it bother you that someone might make a baseless assertion here so much that you needed to start a thread about it?

this is what I was trying to get through with my fuck you posts to wiggin, good job otrap
Jan 25, 2011 9:43pm
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Jan 25, 2011 9:49 PM
No worries, Durk. :D
Jan 25, 2011 9:49pm
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Jan 25, 2011 9:58 PM
O-Trap;653188 wrote:If you don't take this forum seriously (as you, yourself, assert that nobody does), then why does it bother you that someone might make a baseless assertion here so much that you needed to start a thread about it?

B-B-B-BINGO!
Jan 25, 2011 9:58pm
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Jan 26, 2011 12:06 AM
Ender Wiggin;651180 wrote:Now once again ill ask you are the people who agreed with what I said all the immature names you called me as well?
Here's a fact for you, I've read over this thread 3 times, and I haven't found anyone who agrees with anything you've said. I've already looked, so could you show me these so called posts that "agree with you"? I'm dying to see them, and for you to back up something, ANYTHING you say, just once. Or are you going to resort to the "it's not on me to show proof, it's on you if you want to know" defense again? I'm betting on the latter.
Jan 26, 2011 12:06am
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Jan 26, 2011 12:37 AM
Lol, you know its funny, when the other side was talking shit it was ok but when I tried to defend myself its like "why do you care" Hilarious what happens when people get the shit pushed in suddenly none of it matters.

Lol, some of you are too much.

Oh and RSP, this topic doesnt have anything to agree or disagree with, its a question, if you read what I wrote youd see I had said in other topics where people have agreed with me, not this one.

Care to try again?

And justin, dont even try, you talked shit along with the rest of them. Give me a break.

Once again, dont start shit you cant finish then try and bitch out.
Jan 26, 2011 12:37am
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Jan 26, 2011 12:41 AM
And otrap, it doesnt bother me, im not losing sleep over it, itd just be cool to see a forum with a good community that doesnt resort to bullshit like that.

You know someone made mention about stuff like that and how its going to have to get cut it after selling the site, jeez, who was that?

So justin, is that whole cut down on all the BS for the new investors going into effect or not? I mean, if it doesnt matter and who cares then surely there will be no changes right?

So otrap, it actually DOES mean something to someone since there was a big hubub about this place changing, so all the bullshit needs to stop, a good place would be the shit talking, no?

Cant wait to hear what garbage comes next, hypocrites much?
Jan 26, 2011 12:41am
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Jan 26, 2011 12:42 AM
justincredible;653287 wrote:B-B-B-BINGO!

So your whole trip about cleaning the site up for the new owners was not true? People can continue to talk shit, make sad claims, and all that other bullshit?

I mean if no one takes this seriously then all what you said in the basement is BS then right?
Jan 26, 2011 12:42am
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Jan 26, 2011 12:43 AM
Red_Skin_Pride;653707 wrote: could you show me these so called posts that "agree with you"? I'm dying to see them, and for you to back up something, ANYTHING you say, just once. Or are you going to resort to the "it's not on me to show proof, it's on you if you want to know" defense again? I'm betting on the latter.

Ender Wiggin;653707 wrote: Oh and RSP, this topic doesnt have anything to agree or disagree with, its a question, if you read what I wrote youd see I had said in other topics where people have agreed with me, not this one.
More talking in circles about vague topics without any of the proof you so desperately require of others.

Ender Wiggin;653707 wrote:Once again, dont start shit you cant finish then try and bitch out.

Sort of like you're doing in the last 2 posts?

I've seen semen stains on a mattress that are less of a waste of life than you are.
Jan 26, 2011 12:43am
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Jan 26, 2011 12:50 AM
.........RSP, you arent very smart or something? You made a claim that no one agreed with me in this topic. I agreed seeing as there was nothing to agree with here. Youre free to read the other topics.

This is EXACTLY what im talking about lol. You people are claiming shit I never said. IF you had posted your response in one of the topics where it wouldve worked then I wouldve responded instantly shutting you up. There are no talking in circles here, you made an incorrect claim in a topic where you cant apply what you said. But ya thats my fault lol.

Lol, so defending myself is starting something that I cant finish? I believe I replied to each point that someone said but that doesnt count or something? You arent making sense.

I replied directly to what otrap said, justin, and you so how exactly is that ME starting short and how exactly is that ME not finishing?
Jan 26, 2011 12:50am
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Jan 26, 2011 12:50 AM
I collect Garden Gnomes and Lawn Jockeys...fwiw

Jan 26, 2011 12:50am
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Jan 26, 2011 12:51 AM
Theres a reason the term "Burden of Proof" is used, its similiar to cases like this, no one can claim something about someone else, then force THAT person to prove the opposite. Your post would laughed at in court just as it is here.

You must not be aware of that, you must be around places where you see semen stains often.
Jan 26, 2011 12:51am
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Jan 26, 2011 12:52 AM
ytownfootball;653723 wrote:I collect Garden Gnomes and Lawn Jockeys...fwiw


You also are a pathological liar, fwiw :)

But im sure Red Skin will force me to prove you are.
Jan 26, 2011 12:52am
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enigmaax

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Jan 26, 2011 12:54 AM
I hate cops.
Jan 26, 2011 12:54am
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enigmaax

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Jan 26, 2011 12:55 AM
Oh sorry. I thought this was the "need more vCash" thread.
Jan 26, 2011 12:55am
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Jan 26, 2011 12:56 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_burden_of_proof

I leave this here for John Redcorn.

You can cry to me when I make a claim about someone like others have.

Ill wait :)
Jan 26, 2011 12:56am
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enigmaax

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Jan 26, 2011 12:57 AM
What...are we in court here or something?
Jan 26, 2011 12:57am
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Jan 26, 2011 1:01 AM
enigmaax;653733 wrote:What...are we in court here or something?

Nah, I wish though. A lot of these clowns would be hauled away for being so stupidly silly.

Oh and if Justin wants to clean this place up for the new owners then it should get a little more civil.

So cutting out bullshit like this what this topic is about would help alot.

But apparently Justin likes to be a hypocrite lol.
Jan 26, 2011 1:01am
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Jan 26, 2011 1:03 AM
Ender Wiggin;653734 wrote:Nah, I wish though. A lot of these clowns would be hauled away for being so stupidly silly.

Or you would be sentenced for fraud?
Jan 26, 2011 1:03am
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enigmaax

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Jan 26, 2011 1:03 AM
It's all about the vCash, vCash.
Jan 26, 2011 1:03am