Case Keenum granted 6th year of eligibility

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Jan 18, 2011 1:34 AM
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=6022570

Just saw this today, 4 days after it was posted. Looks like he'll probably finish off breaking those records.
Jan 18, 2011 1:34am
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Jan 19, 2011 1:17 PM
I kinda think it's ridiculous this kid is getting a 6th year. Just my opinion.
Jan 19, 2011 1:17pm
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Jan 19, 2011 1:31 PM
Why is it ridiculous? Or do you just mean whole 6th year thing is ridiculous?
Jan 19, 2011 1:31pm
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Jan 19, 2011 1:35 PM
didnt shipley have a 6 year or something? and isnt moeller getting one as well?
Jan 19, 2011 1:35pm
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Jan 19, 2011 2:18 PM
dave;644043 wrote:Why is it ridiculous? Or do you just mean whole 6th year thing is ridiculous?

Because you are supposed to have lost 2 years to injury to get a 6th. His redshirt year was by choice.
Jan 19, 2011 2:18pm
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Jan 19, 2011 3:53 PM
LJ;644115 wrote:Because you are supposed to have lost 2 years to injury to get a 6th. His redshirt year was by choice.

http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/01/14/2016777/ncaa-grants-sixth-year-for-injured.html#

"Keenum was granted a medical redshirt in 2006 because of a separated shoulder sustained late in his senior season in high school."
Jan 19, 2011 3:53pm
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Jan 19, 2011 4:07 PM
enigmaax;644236 wrote:http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/01/14/2016777/ncaa-grants-sixth-year-for-injured.html#

"Keenum was granted a medical redshirt in 2006 because of a separated shoulder sustained late in his senior season in high school."

Yet they wouldn't give Ben Mauk a 6th year because they said the redshirt he took for a minor injury his freshman year was his choice. They chose to redshirt him to let it heal more rather than let him play through it (a seperated shoulder shouldn't take that long to heal).
Jan 19, 2011 4:07pm
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Jan 19, 2011 4:16 PM
LJ;644260 wrote:Yet they wouldn't give Ben Mauk a 6th year because they said the redshirt he took for a minor injury his freshman year was his choice. They chose to redshirt him to let it heal more rather than let him play through it (a seperated shoulder shouldn't take that long to heal).

I could be wrong, but I think the difference there was that Wake Forest did not document (or support) Mauk's redshirt as a medical redshirt.
Jan 19, 2011 4:16pm
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Jan 19, 2011 6:44 PM
enigmaax;644273 wrote:I could be wrong, but I think the difference there was that Wake Forest did not document (or support) Mauk's redshirt as a medical redshirt.

That is the answer the NCAA gave Mauk and Cincinnati. Truth be told I can only think of one or two eligibility battles UC has ever won and they were for guys that were not going to be difference makers. There is a trash bin over at the NCAA with the name "UC Eligibility Appeals" on it.
Jan 19, 2011 6:44pm
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Jan 19, 2011 7:45 PM
Little Danny;644424 wrote:That is the answer the NCAA gave Mauk and Cincinnati. Truth be told I can only think of one or two eligibility battles UC has ever won and they were for guys that were not going to be difference makers. There is a trash bin over at the NCAA with the name "UC Eligibility Appeals" on it.

Are you saying the NCAA has something against UC...like, it is personal or something?
Jan 19, 2011 7:45pm
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Jan 19, 2011 7:58 PM
Many UC fans do. I think it goes back to the Huggins era...
Jan 19, 2011 7:58pm
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Jan 19, 2011 8:44 PM
enigmaax;644509 wrote:Are you saying the NCAA has something against UC...like, it is personal or something?

I think it just shows that the NCAA is ridiculously arbitrary and they do whatever the hell they want.
Jan 19, 2011 8:44pm
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Jan 19, 2011 8:53 PM
LJ;644589 wrote:I think it just shows that the NCAA is ridiculously arbitrary and they do whatever the hell they want.

I don't disagree. But, the difference in this case is pretty obvious. Mauk's redshirt wasn't a medical redshirt. Keenum's was. There's nothing arbitrary about that.
Jan 19, 2011 8:53pm
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Jan 19, 2011 8:55 PM
enigmaax;644608 wrote:I don't disagree. But, the difference in this case is pretty obvious. Mauk's redshirt wasn't a medical redshirt. Keenum's was. There's nothing arbitrary about that.

There is no such thing as a medical redshirt. Houston decided to redshirt him so he had more time to heal and the NCAA for some reason decided that that was a good enough reason. A separated shoulder doesn't take 10 months to heal
Jan 19, 2011 8:55pm
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Jan 19, 2011 10:26 PM
LJ;644615 wrote:There is no such thing as a medical redshirt. Houston decided to redshirt him so he had more time to heal and the NCAA for some reason decided that that was a good enough reason. A separated shoulder doesn't take 10 months to heal

I understand that medical redshirt is nothing official. The reason for the redshirt is key to the decision, though. And the fact that Houston redshirted Keenum for a medical reason, whether you think it is legit or not, fits the criteria for the situation (and the sixth year). In Mauk's case, didn't Wake Forest flat out say he was not redshirted for a medical reason?

The NCAA made both decisions based on information presented. That isn't arbitrary or unfair. Maybe Wake Forest felt a little burned when Mauk left. Or maybe, they just told the truth. Maybe Houston is telling the truth or maybe they just tried to get their boy back. Whatever the case, there had to be something to substantiate the claim...Houston obviously had it. It isn't as though Keenum is the only guy to get a sixth year.
Jan 19, 2011 10:26pm
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Jan 19, 2011 10:47 PM
It's a medical waiver that is the term used by the NCAA, but everyone still calls it a medical redshirt, same difference. It has to be applied for through the NCAA and approved, but I'll be damned if I can find anything that isn't case specific.
Jan 19, 2011 10:47pm