Cleveland Browns 2011 Super Awesome In-Season Thread

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BR1986FB
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Apr 26, 2011 4:57am
OQB;750092 wrote:What about free agents.......are they still off limits?

This is what upsets me the most about the enitre situation........no free agency. I'm not saying we were going to get a HOF player but it would be nice to upgrade some of our needs through free agency.

I almost think free agency AFTER the draft might be a better thing. Acquiring FA's prior to the draft can tip your hand as to which direction you'll draft.
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Apr 26, 2011 7:53am
BR1986FB;750076 wrote:GBN mock has the Browns trading down to #10 with the Skins who grab Gabbert. We get #10 (draft Tyron Smith-OT), #144 and a conditional 2nd that can turn into a 1st in 2012. Not a fan of the pick.

I'd think they would make that trade if they like JJ Watt and think he will be there at #10.
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BR1986FB
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Apr 26, 2011 8:01am
Sonofanump;750397 wrote:I'd think they would make that trade if they like JJ Watt and think he will be there at #10.

If they were to take Tyron Smith at #10 I would see that as a "CYA" move in that he can play left tackle and there have been several rumors that as soon as Joe Thomas' rookie contract is up he's going home to Green Bay.
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Apr 26, 2011 8:17am
I don't think teams will defy the league and trade players during the draft even though they technically could. I heard that Cribbs and Watson were going to show up to Berea this morning.
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Apr 26, 2011 10:34am
BR1986FB;750403 wrote:If they were to take Tyron Smith at #10 I would see that as a "CYA" move in that he can play left tackle and there have been several rumors that as soon as Joe Thomas' rookie contract is up he's going home to Green Bay.

The Browns would be idiots not to place the franchise tag on JT.
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Apr 26, 2011 10:55am
like_that;750483 wrote:The Browns would be idiots not to place the franchise tag on JT.

Thats putting it lightly.
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Apr 26, 2011 11:03am
They have to franchise JT when the contract is coming to an end. He's made the Pro Bowl every year and is their best player. The offense is probably a lot different without him at LT.
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Apr 26, 2011 11:04am
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2011/04/josh_cribbs_ben_watson_are_fir.html
BEREA, Ohio -- With the NFL lockout temporarily lifted, Cleveland Browns players began showing up at the team's training facility here.

Tight end Ben Watson was the first to arrive, just before 10 a.m. Punter Reggie Hodges was riding with Watson.

Within about five minutes, Josh Cribbs also arrived.

"We're back, " Watson said to reporters. "We're ready to go to work."

While Watson was talking, Browns President Mike Holmgren drove past on his way in.

Watson said he had talked with several teammates by telephone and thought as many as 10 players might make it to the facility today.

"Everybody's not here in Cleveland," Watson said. "Guys have kind if dispersed. I've been in and out (of town). I'm expecting anywhere from 10-12 guys. It kind of depends. Guys are all over the place."

Watson also said the players expect to receive their off-season workout bonuses. "This is how we support our families.''

Linebacker Scott Fujita, speaking by phone from California, said he expected no confrontations in Berea.

"I expect things to be handled very civilly," Fujita said. "I don't see why we can't come in, meet the coaches, shake their hands and go to work."

Fujita said that he expects NFL business, such as trades and free agency, to resume soon. And he hoped the Browns would move quickly on those fronts.

"I would hope that we'd be one of those teams to make a quick splash right off the bat," he said. "I mean, we were 5-11 last year."

When asked if there was a state of chaos surrounding the end of the lockout, Fujita said no.

"It may appear that way, but I'm sure the NFL has a Plan B and a Plan C and will do it in an orderly fashion. They're very smart people."

Watson was relieved to be able to return to work.

"Thank God its the injunction and like we've said all along, we just want to come to work and we're happy to be able to come back and we don't know what's going to happen" Watson said. "There's a lot more legal stuff to go on. We've got a lot of work to do. We missed a lot of time. With the offense, we've got a lot to catch up on and everything like that.

There was some thought that although players would not be kept out of the facility, teams might not allow them to work out.

"We've missed a lot of time," Watson said. "We'd like to work out. We know that legally we're in right standing to be able to come back, so today we just want to get back with the guys who are here, kind of reconvene and try to get working toward next season."

Watson was asked what kind of reception he expected from the Browns coaches and whether or not he thought they would receive their playbooks.

"We hope they will (meet with players)," he said. "we know the league has told them different things. And whatever the organization wants to do that's up to them, but from a players' standpoint, we started back and we're looking at it that way.

"If they give me (a playbook), I would gladly take one. It's been a long, whatever, 40 days and we're just happy to be working again. If they would like to give us a playbook, we'll all take one."
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BR1986FB
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Apr 26, 2011 11:12am

I LOVE this!!

I saw where John Kasay was the only player to show up in Carolina. He hung around 10 minutes and left. Sounds like these guys are hungry (some of them probably literally..LOL) and ready to get to work.
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Apr 26, 2011 11:22am
Sounds like all the Browns players have left the facility.
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BR1986FB
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Apr 26, 2011 11:27am
Sources: NFL prospects failed drug tests
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JAY GLAZER AND ALEX MARVEZ
Updated Apr 26, 2011 10:40 AM ET
Two highly regarded college defensive prospects will enter this week's NFL draft with red flags.



Multiple sources told FOXSports.com that Georgia outside linebacker/defensive end Justin Houston and Iowa defensive lineman Christian Ballard failed drug tests at the NFL Scouting Combine in February. Both players tested positive for marijuana, the sources said.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/NFL-draft-prospects-justin-houston-christian-ballard-failed-Combine-drug-test-042611
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BR1986FB
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Apr 26, 2011 11:45am
BEREA -- One day after a judge lifted the NFL lockout, three Browns players reported to work in Berea. Less than an hour later they left.

Ben Watson, Josh Cribbs and Reggie Hodges reported to the Browns' Berea practice facility around 10 a.m. Tuesday. In all about 10 Browns players were expected to show up.

Although the players were allowed to enter the facility, they were not allowed to work out, according to a WKYC crew on the scene.

Players were also not given any playbooks and were told that the league considers the situation an ongoing legal matter.

The three players left the facility at 10:51 a.m. It's not clear if other players will continue to show up at the facility.


WKYC-TV

http://www.wkyc.com/news/article/187228/4/Berea-Browns-players-not-allowed-to-work-out-leave
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Apr 26, 2011 11:46am
BR1986FB;750533 wrote:BEREA -- One day after a judge lifted the NFL lockout, three Browns players reported to work in Berea. Less than an hour later they left.

Ben Watson, Josh Cribbs and Reggie Hodges reported to the Browns' Berea practice facility around 10 a.m. Tuesday. In all about 10 Browns players were expected to show up.

Although the players were allowed to enter the facility, they were not allowed to work out, according to a WKYC crew on the scene.

Players were also not given any playbooks and were told that the league considers the situation an ongoing legal matter.

The three players left the facility at 10:51 a.m. It's not clear if other players will continue to show up at the facility.


WKYC-TV

http://www.wkyc.com/news/article/187228/4/Berea-Browns-players-not-allowed-to-work-out-leave

Doh.
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Apr 26, 2011 11:49am
Exactly what I would expect to happen. This is an on-going legal battle. Nothing was decided by the ruling.
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Apr 26, 2011 12:35pm
An Iowa player failed a drug test? SHOCKER
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BR1986FB
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Apr 26, 2011 6:25pm
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Apr 26, 2011 8:00pm
They said on Mike and Mike this morning that this appeal could take a month or longer to be decided.

The judge ruled that business must go on as usual. If players are continually denied access to weight rooms, etc.; the judge will definitely have another ruling to lay down. The lock out is over. From what they said this morning, it is basically "illegal" for the teams to not let the players work out and such.
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Apr 27, 2011 7:51am
I would love for that to happen!! As long as we got Peterson and Jones out of it. They could then work on the front seven through free agency/late round picks.
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BR1986FB
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Apr 27, 2011 8:03am
se-alum;751326 wrote:I would love for that to happen!! As long as we got Peterson and Jones out of it. They could then work on the front seven through free agency/late round picks.

See...I'm on the fence. I'd love to have those two players but what happens if McCoy fizzles this year? I think that Colt will thrive in the WCO but if he bombs I don't know if I'd want to be on the outside looking in on the Andrew Luck Sweepstakes in 2012.
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Apr 27, 2011 8:07am
Landing those 2 players would be incredible. But how about getting Peterson and Quinn, or another top DL? That would be just as good IMO. WR are deep in this draft. I just don't know if I like giving up 2 picks (next year's #1 especially) for 1.
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Apr 27, 2011 9:30am
BR1986FB;751335 wrote:See...I'm on the fence. I'd love to have those two players but what happens if McCoy fizzles this year? I think that Colt will thrive in the WCO but if he bombs I don't know if I'd want to be on the outside looking in on the Andrew Luck Sweepstakes in 2012.

I understand where your coming from, but as my father always told me, "you play for now, cross tomorrow's bridge when you get there. If you are cautious for the future, the present will undoubtedly fail."
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Apr 27, 2011 10:36am
Been reading that the Browns have Fairley in their top 8. I wouldnt be jumping up for joy if we picked him.