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BR1986FB
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Apr 27, 2011 2:16pm
like_that;751617 wrote:Teams under the Browns will want Gabbert, so a team will trade for the Browns' pick so the teams under the Browns do not have a chance at Gabbert.
Specifically, San Francisco at #7. That's why teams like Washington (#10) and Minny (#12) would trade up to 6 to leapfrog SF.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Apr 27, 2011 2:18pm
Art Modell;751661 wrote:Are you guys really that excited about this?
Probably not as excited as you when you have your neighbors sheep all alone in a dress but Hillis on the cover would be a nice feather in Cleveland's cap. Now don't get excited or have "fowl" thoughts because I said "feather" Yinzer.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Apr 27, 2011 2:22pm
lol BR you know thats going to go right over capwned's pea sized head.
OQB
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Apr 27, 2011 2:46pm
Am I excited about Hillis possibly being on the cover of Madden.......I am just happy that a Cleveland athlete (other than LeBum) is getting some attention and recognition. Their is always the thought of the Madden curse, but honestly can Cleveland be cursed anymore than what we are? haha
Raw Dawgin' it
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Apr 27, 2011 2:47pm
OQB;751704 wrote:Am I excited about Hillis possibly being on the cover of Madden.......I am just happy that a Cleveland athlete (other than LeBum) is getting some attention and recognition. Their is always the thought of the Madden curse, but honestly can Cleveland be cursed anymore than what we are? haha
you could be Seattle
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Apr 27, 2011 2:52pm
Kind of my thoughts. The recognition would be nice.OQB;751704 wrote:Am I excited about Hillis possibly being on the cover of Madden.......I am just happy that a Cleveland athlete (other than LeBum) is getting some attention and recognition. Their is always the thought of the Madden curse, but honestly can Cleveland be cursed anymore than what we are? haha
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Sonofanump
Apr 27, 2011 3:02pm
BR1986FB;751666 wrote:Specifically, San Francisco at #7. That's why teams like Washington (#10) and Minny (#12) would trade up to 6 to leapfrog SF.
Maybe they could bait SF to move up one spot to #6, we get #7 and something later like Detriot pulled over the Browns for Solider Winslow.
like_that
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Apr 27, 2011 3:03pm
Sonofanump;751720 wrote:Maybe they could bait SF to move up one spot to #6, we get #7 and something later like Detriot pulled over the Browns for Solider Winslow.
Would be nice. Hopefully it would work out better for the Browns than it did for the lions.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Apr 27, 2011 3:04pm
Sonofanump;751720 wrote:Maybe they could bait SF to move up one spot to #6, we get #7 and something later like Detriot pulled over the Browns for Solider Winslow.
ugh I still smh at that one.
OQB
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Apr 27, 2011 3:05pm
I wouldn't want to move below 12....
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Sonofanump
Apr 27, 2011 3:09pm
Commander of Awesome;751600 wrote:Umm you spend more than one day in a city, usually arrive on Thursday night. Nice fail.
I really did not have a dog in this fight and have never have a personal problem with your post, I was pointing out a fact for you. Now that you decided that you know it all, I would like to let you know that I personally know the travel schedule for the Browns. They leave on Saturday mornings for a Sunday 1pm kickoff. They fly to the city and check into the hotel (usually a nice one with HVAC), they do not spend any time outside until game day. They have a full practice in Berea on Friday at 11:30 am for weeks that they travel. They leave the city that they are in one hour after the game ends (even in New Orleans after the upset win last year).
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Apr 27, 2011 3:12pm
OQB;751724 wrote:I wouldn't want to move below 12....
Agreed. I've heard trade down scenarios with both Atlanta & New England and I wouldn't want to go that low. Not that I think the Hoodie would trade up to #6. The #12 spot would be about right.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Apr 27, 2011 3:12pm
Sonofanump;751726 wrote:I really did not have a dog in this fight and have never have a personal problem with your post, I was pointing out a fact for you. Now that you decided that you know it all, I would like to let you know that I personally know the travel schedule for the Browns. They leave on Saturday mornings for a Sunday 1pm kickoff. They fly to the city and check into the hotel (usually a nice one with HVAC), they do not spend any time outside until game day. They have a full practice in Berea on Friday at 11:30 am for weeks that they travel. They leave the city that they are in one hour after the game ends (even in New Orleans after the upset win last year).
That maybe a new team trend under Erica Womangini but that was not the case under RAC or Botch. My cousin worked for the team until he was let go after RAC and Savage were canned.
I dont claim to know it all, nice way to put words in my mouth though.
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Sonofanump
Apr 27, 2011 3:17pm
Commander of Awesome;751730 wrote:That maybe a new team trend under Erica Womangini but that was not the case under RAC or Botch. My cousin worked for the team until he was let go after RAC and Savage were canned.
By chance is your cousin now in San Diego?
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Apr 27, 2011 3:18pm
Sonofanump;751736 wrote:By chance is your cousin now in San Diego?
No, I havent talked to him in a while but last I heard he was still unemployed. He was part of the equipment/training staff not the OC.
OQB
Posts: 6,679
Apr 27, 2011 4:58pm
Peyton Hills wins Madden cover.
riders1
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Apr 27, 2011 5:18pm
So that means browns fans have to go buy it for the coverOQB;751913 wrote:Peyton Hills wins Madden cover.
Is there some kind of curse that goes with it?What marketing, let fans vote and then the most fans voting have to buy
OQB
Posts: 6,679
Apr 27, 2011 5:19pm
riders1;751941 wrote:So that means browns fans have to go buy it for the cover
lol I'll give you a copy of the cover after I buy it.
As for the curse.....Cleveland can't be cursed anymore than what they are lol I'm not too worried, I'll take the recognition.
riders1
Posts: 2,275
Apr 27, 2011 5:26pm
I could use a new dartboard target
mucalum49
Posts: 1,639
Apr 27, 2011 5:39pm
OQB;751942 wrote:lol I'll give you a copy of the cover after I buy it.
As for the curse.....Cleveland can't be cursed anymore than what they are lol I'm not too worried, I'll take the recognition.
Joe Haden said on ESPN last week that he hopes the Madden Curse will cancel out whatever curse Cleveland has right now. Hope he's right lol
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BR1986FB
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Apr 27, 2011 8:43pm
About 24 hours away...
After hearing more and more, if they HAVE to go WR at #6, which I don't think they will, I hope they take Julio Jones over AJ Green. Green does NOT fit the WCO system. He's more of a "stretch the field" kind of guy and Heckert will be looking for guys with strong YAC after taking in 10-20 yard passes, which the WCO predicates. Green IS a better receiver but I'd rather see someone who can catch the short pass and take off.
After hearing more and more, if they HAVE to go WR at #6, which I don't think they will, I hope they take Julio Jones over AJ Green. Green does NOT fit the WCO system. He's more of a "stretch the field" kind of guy and Heckert will be looking for guys with strong YAC after taking in 10-20 yard passes, which the WCO predicates. Green IS a better receiver but I'd rather see someone who can catch the short pass and take off.
SportsAndLady
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Apr 27, 2011 8:56pm
Julio Jones does seem like an "AFC North WR" type of player. Strong, physical, bruiser.
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BR1986FB
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Apr 27, 2011 9:02pm
SportsAndLady;752189 wrote:Julio Jones does seem like an "AFC North WR" type of player. Strong, physical, bruiser.
Exactly. I'm not disqualifying Green as a receiver, as I think he's more gifted, but Jones should be able to bust out of tackles, for the reason you mentioned, and get the YAC that Heckert is looking for.
Desean Jackson, who Heckert took in Philly, is kind of the "broken mold" of the WCO receiver. He is a LEGIT deep threat and adds a new wrinkle to Andy Reid's version of the WCO. The difference with Jackson is that he has/had McNabb & Vick throwing him the ball and those guys have rocket launchers. Colt McCoy doesn't.
Call it a smokescreen but Heckert doesn't place as much value on WR's, RB's, LB's etc as he does on the QB, OL/DL & CB. I could see them waiting until the 2nd or 3rd round before selecting a WR. I don't think he's necessarily looking for a "#1 receiver" as much as he's looking for a "better than the crap we have now receiver."
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zach24oz
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Apr 27, 2011 9:15pm
I am not so sure that Patrick Peterson is going to be around when the Browns are up to make their pick...so if that's the case and Gabbert or Newton are on the board, I could see us trading down to the Skins or to the Vikes and take Julio Jones (assuming that's why they trade down). Because if AJ Green, Patrick Peterson, Marcell Dareus, and Von Miller are off the board'm not sure who they would take at 6 unless they go ahead and rake Jones there if they feel good about him.
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BR1986FB
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Apr 27, 2011 9:24pm
I wouldn't take Jones at 6 but then again, I didn't think they'd take Haden last year at the spot they did.