Commander of Awesome
                                                                            
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                                Apr 25, 2011 4:49pm
                            
                        
                                I'm glad. I don't buy the "only two prospects they're looking at" bs. Heckert's better than that.
                            
                        OQB
                                                                            
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                                Apr 25, 2011 4:50pm
                            
                        
                                I'm not going to say anything that would come back to bite me, but I will say this.....I sure am glad Heckert is in charge of our draft!
                            
                        shook_17
                                                                            
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                                Apr 25, 2011 6:24pm
                            
                        Commander of Awesome;749840 wrote:I'm glad. I don't buy the "only two prospects they're looking at" bs. Heckert's better than that.
agreed man. the browns have a chance to grab and elite talent and i highly doubt we trade down for a sub par player.
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                                Apr 25, 2011 6:29pm
                            
                        Laley23
                                                                            
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                                Apr 25, 2011 6:47pm
                            
                        shook_17;749885 wrote:judge rules to end lockout.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=6424084
What does this mean regarding trades, etc. I read through that article, but pretty quick, and it didnt seem to mention anything about the business side, particularly the upcoming draft.
bases_loaded
                                                                            
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                                Apr 25, 2011 7:07pm
                            
                        Laley23;749897 wrote:What does this mean regarding trades, etc. I read through that article, but pretty quick, and it didnt seem to mention anything about the business side, particularly the upcoming draft.
Owners will file their own stay and once again will be nowhere
                                        
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                                                                BR1986FB
                                                                            
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                                Apr 25, 2011 7:17pm
                            
                        OQB;749841 wrote: but I will say this.....I sure am glad Heckert is in charge of our draft!
As well you should be. The team isn't very good right now but the consensus around the league ("league" doesn't include "Corky" from OC) is that the Cleveland Browns are in VERY good hands. There is reason to be optimistic. Heckert's track record is proven.
Art Modell
                                                                            
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                                Apr 25, 2011 7:34pm
                            
                        BR1986FB;749952 wrote:As well you should be. The team isn't very good right now but the consensus around the league ("league" doesn't include "Corky" from OC) is that the Cleveland Browns are in VERY good hands. There is reason to be optimistic. Heckert's track record is proven.
We'll see.
wildcats20
                                                                            
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                                Apr 25, 2011 7:35pm
                            
                        bases_loaded;749932 wrote:Owners will file their own stay and once again will be nowhere
Only if the appeals court agrees with their "claim"
shook_17
                                                                            
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                                Apr 25, 2011 7:42pm
                            
                        wildcats20;749969 wrote:Only if the appeals court agrees with their "claim"
the "legal expert" on espn said that theres a good chance they won't agree with the NFL appeal. and they are going to set up rules for this come year. guess we will see. i just don't want the NFL to end up like the MLB.
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                                Apr 25, 2011 8:04pm
                            
                        
                                How amazing would it be if that trade with minny would go down and the browns pick up Peterson and jj watt with those 2 picks. Those 2 alone would take our defense so far
                            
                        
                                        
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                                                                BR1986FB
                                                                            
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                                Apr 25, 2011 8:08pm
                            
                        Art Modell;749967 wrote:We'll see.
We've ALREADY "seen." Look at his body of work in Philadelphia.
bases_loaded
                                                                            
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                                Apr 25, 2011 8:13pm
                            
                        Art Modell;749967 wrote:We'll see.
Until you can show me where that fucking sign is. Do us a favor and GTFO
Commander of Awesome
                                                                            
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                                Apr 25, 2011 8:14pm
                            
                        BR1986FB;750014 wrote: Look at his body
Capone does a lot of this already, not sure he needs more encouragement.
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                                Apr 25, 2011 8:29pm
                            
                        
                                Yeah, heckert has a great track record, so I won't be upset no matter who they take. Of course I thought the same about phil savage.....fml
                            
                        shook_17
                                                                            
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                                Apr 25, 2011 8:36pm
                            
                        +1bases_loaded;750022 wrote:Until you can show me where that fucking sign is. Do us a favor and GTFO
                                        
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                                                                BR1986FB
                                                                            
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                                Apr 25, 2011 8:38pm
                            
                        wes_mantooth;750043 wrote:Yeah, heckert has a great track record, so I won't be upset no matter who they take. Of course I thought the same about phil savage.....fml
Heckert's track record is quite a bit more extensive than Savage's ever was.
                                        
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                                                                BR1986FB
                                                                            
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                                Apr 25, 2011 8:42pm
                            
                        
                                Pray that the judge doesn't grant the NFL (owners) a "stay" before Thursday. If they don't receive a stay I believe that players will be able to be traded during the draft.
                            
                        Commander of Awesome
                                                                            
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                                Apr 25, 2011 8:53pm
                            
                        BR1986FB;750063 wrote:Pray that the judge doesn't grant the NFL (owners) a "stay" before Thursday. If they don't receive a stay I believe that players will be able to be traded during the draft.
I just hope Shurmur called McCoy the second he got the news to go over the playbook. Same with Dick and the Defense.
                                        
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                                                                BR1986FB
                                                                            
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                                Apr 25, 2011 8:55pm
                            
                        
                                GBN mock has the Browns trading down to #10 with the Skins who grab Gabbert. We get #10 (draft Tyron Smith-OT), #144 and a conditional 2nd that can turn into a 1st in 2012. Not a fan of the pick.
                            
                        Laley23
                                                                            
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                                Apr 25, 2011 8:58pm
                            
                        BR1986FB;750076 wrote:GBN mock has the Browns trading down to #10 with the Skins who grab Gabbert. We get #10 (draft Tyron Smith-OT), #144 and a conditional 2nd that can turn into a 1st in 2012. Not a fan of the pick.
Not a fan of the pick, but the trade is pretty good imo.
OQB
                                                                            
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                                Apr 25, 2011 9:09pm
                            
                        
                                What about free agents.......are they still off limits?
This is what upsets me the most about the enitre situation........no free agency. I'm not saying we were going to get a HOF player but it would be nice to upgrade some of our needs through free agency.
                        This is what upsets me the most about the enitre situation........no free agency. I'm not saying we were going to get a HOF player but it would be nice to upgrade some of our needs through free agency.
wildcats20
                                                                            
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                                Apr 25, 2011 9:11pm
                            
                        
                                There have to be rules in place before anything can happen, which is what I gathered from listening to the ESPN guys.
                            
                        shook_17
                                                                            
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                                Apr 25, 2011 9:56pm
                            
                        OQB;750092 wrote:What about free agents.......are they still off limits?
This is what upsets me the most about the enitre situation........no free agency. I'm not saying we were going to get a HOF player but it would be nice to upgrade some of our needs through free agency.
yes free agency is still off limits. they need to set rules if the appeals court agrees with judge nelson
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                                Apr 25, 2011 10:46pm
                            
                        
                                I hope the players show up tomorrow morning and get playbooks.  At least this way if the judge grants the NFL's wish and resumes the lockout, they at least can work of the shurmur playbook and language.