like_that
Posts: 26,625
Dec 21, 2011 9:56am
Not the Rats, they are still trying to secure the division title. The scumbags might rest depending on whether the rats lock up the division title this week or not.Sonofanump;1022863 wrote:Any chance that the Rats or Rapists rest starters and give the Browns a chance to blow a top 5 pick as they usually do?
OQB
Posts: 6,679
Dec 21, 2011 2:13pm
Ravens will take it to us again this week, but the steelers will beat us with backups in....
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Dec 21, 2011 2:23pm
by Marty Gitlin - Shurmur on possibility of Hillis' return
Coach Pat Shurmur on if RB Peyton Hillis returning in 2012 would allow the team to more effectively fill other holes: “We’ll leave the contract stuff to the offseason. I’m just looking forward to him playing in a way that I can appreciate his work.” Hillis rushed Sunday for a season-high 99 yards. Browns RapidReports
Marty Gitlin - Brown is savvy vet, but younger CBs pushing him
Defensive coordinator Dick Jauron on veteran CB Sheldon Brown: “He’s played well. He’s smart, savvy, very skilled, doesn’t waste a lot of movement and he has tremendous ball skills.” He’s also 32 years old and getting pushed by Dimitri Patterson and emerging rookie Buster Skrine. Browns RapidReports
by Marty Gitlin - Skrine to get his chance on returns
Look for rookie CB Buster Skrine to continue on kickoff returns to keep Josh Cribbs (groin) healthier and fresher. Skrine has displayed good speed and skill in that area. Browns RapidReports
Coach Pat Shurmur on if RB Peyton Hillis returning in 2012 would allow the team to more effectively fill other holes: “We’ll leave the contract stuff to the offseason. I’m just looking forward to him playing in a way that I can appreciate his work.” Hillis rushed Sunday for a season-high 99 yards. Browns RapidReports
Marty Gitlin - Brown is savvy vet, but younger CBs pushing him
Defensive coordinator Dick Jauron on veteran CB Sheldon Brown: “He’s played well. He’s smart, savvy, very skilled, doesn’t waste a lot of movement and he has tremendous ball skills.” He’s also 32 years old and getting pushed by Dimitri Patterson and emerging rookie Buster Skrine. Browns RapidReports
by Marty Gitlin - Skrine to get his chance on returns
Look for rookie CB Buster Skrine to continue on kickoff returns to keep Josh Cribbs (groin) healthier and fresher. Skrine has displayed good speed and skill in that area. Browns RapidReports
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Sonofanump
Dec 21, 2011 2:27pm
Skrine has been great on kick coverage this year.wrote:by Marty Gitlin - Skrine to get his chance on returns
Look for rookie CB Buster Skrine to continue on kickoff returns to keep Josh Cribbs (groin) healthier and fresher. Skrine has displayed good speed and skill in that area. Browns RapidReports
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Dec 21, 2011 2:28pm
I like what I have seen out of Skrine so far when he sees the field.BR1986FB;1023129 wrote:by Marty Gitlin - Shurmur on possibility of Hillis' return
Coach Pat Shurmur on if RB Peyton Hillis returning in 2012 would allow the team to more effectively fill other holes: “We’ll leave the contract stuff to the offseason. I’m just looking forward to him playing in a way that I can appreciate his work.” Hillis rushed Sunday for a season-high 99 yards. Browns RapidReports
Marty Gitlin - Brown is savvy vet, but younger CBs pushing him
Defensive coordinator Dick Jauron on veteran CB Sheldon Brown: “He’s played well. He’s smart, savvy, very skilled, doesn’t waste a lot of movement and he has tremendous ball skills.” He’s also 32 years old and getting pushed by Dimitri Patterson and emerging rookie Buster Skrine. Browns RapidReports
by Marty Gitlin - Skrine to get his chance on returns
Look for rookie CB Buster Skrine to continue on kickoff returns to keep Josh Cribbs (groin) healthier and fresher. Skrine has displayed good speed and skill in that area. Browns RapidReports
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Dec 21, 2011 2:56pm
Skrine makes Cribbs expendable on kick returns. Much faster guy with more burst.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Dec 21, 2011 3:32pm
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Dec 21, 2011 3:36pm
McShay's latest mock has us taking richardson..
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Dec 21, 2011 3:39pm
Who's Count Chocula got us taking?
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Dec 21, 2011 6:50pm
Speaking of which.....tonight's 92.3 question of the night....DeyDurkie5;1023197 wrote:McShay's latest mock has us taking richardson..
You have one of two options but one leaves and one stays...
You can....a) re-sign Hillis and use the first 1st rounder on a QB or b) use the first 1st rounder on a running back and keep McCoy
What's your choice?
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Dec 21, 2011 6:51pm
Easily A. I will be pretty pissed if they draft Richardson with their first round. Especially considering the first round pick is likely going to be a top 5 pick.BR1986FB;1023317 wrote:Speaking of which.....tonight's 92.3 question of the night....
You have one of two options but one leaves and one stays...
You can....a) re-sign Hillis and use the first 1st rounder on a QB or b) use the first 1st rounder on a running back and keep McCoy
What's your choice?
shook_17
Posts: 3,023
Dec 21, 2011 6:53pm
A hands down. hillis has shown flashes, colt hasn't. hello rgIII or matt barkley
Y-Town Steelhound
Posts: 1,388
Dec 21, 2011 6:54pm
A in a heartbeat. You should never spend a 1st rounder on an RB unless he's got freakish talent (Think AP) and I just don't see it from Richardson. RB's are expendable and don't last, therefore re-signing Hillis who has proven to be a capable back and taking a potential franchise QB (Barkley, RGIII) would be the better move in the long term for the Browns imo.BR1986FB;1023317 wrote:Speaking of which.....tonight's 92.3 question of the night....
You have one of two options but one leaves and one stays...
You can....a) re-sign Hillis and use the first 1st rounder on a QB or b) use the first 1st rounder on a running back and keep McCoy
What's your choice?
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Dec 21, 2011 7:01pm
Glad I don't listen to local sports radio, thats a waste of airways. Its easily resign Hillis in that scenario.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Dec 21, 2011 7:05pm
Vic Carrucci interviewed Heckert tonight and here is the recap. I cut & pasted this recap from an OBR poster....
[LEFT] The Senior Bowl is best way to evaluate non top talent, because it's coached by NFL coaches. Agents usually hold back top 10 talent, to avoid injuries.
- Believes Taylor, Sheard, and Rubin are all great. Taylor is fine complement to Rubin. Sheard's always got the gas stomped to the floor. Hates getting pulled.
- Did not mention anyone playing well for us at RDE.
- Thinks Little's hands are just fine. Blames drops on having not played in awhile.
- Pinkston put in a tough spot, switching to Guard in his first season, (which he's never played.) Is certainly picking up his play, in the last couple games.
- Looks for TE Jordan Cameron to play a lot, coming up, due to other injuries.
- Thinks Skrine is showing flashes of becoming our #2 Cornerback
- Hagg is adjusting to playing more often, instead of as a nickel in college.
- We're going to be active in Free Agency
- Always looks to draft talented QB's, no matter who is on our team, no matter where in the draft. (Gave Patriots drafting Mallett, recently.)
- Believes Offensive Tackles, Defensive Ends, and Cornerbacks are hardest to find in any draft, and if they are there in early rounds, you always draft them.[/LEFT]
[LEFT] The Senior Bowl is best way to evaluate non top talent, because it's coached by NFL coaches. Agents usually hold back top 10 talent, to avoid injuries.
- Believes Taylor, Sheard, and Rubin are all great. Taylor is fine complement to Rubin. Sheard's always got the gas stomped to the floor. Hates getting pulled.
- Did not mention anyone playing well for us at RDE.
- Thinks Little's hands are just fine. Blames drops on having not played in awhile.
- Pinkston put in a tough spot, switching to Guard in his first season, (which he's never played.) Is certainly picking up his play, in the last couple games.
- Looks for TE Jordan Cameron to play a lot, coming up, due to other injuries.
- Thinks Skrine is showing flashes of becoming our #2 Cornerback
- Hagg is adjusting to playing more often, instead of as a nickel in college.
- We're going to be active in Free Agency
- Always looks to draft talented QB's, no matter who is on our team, no matter where in the draft. (Gave Patriots drafting Mallett, recently.)
- Believes Offensive Tackles, Defensive Ends, and Cornerbacks are hardest to find in any draft, and if they are there in early rounds, you always draft them.[/LEFT]
Y-Town Steelhound
Posts: 1,388
Dec 21, 2011 7:06pm
After this season and all the drama/injuries, I doubt the Browns will have to break the bank to re-sign Hillis. Next year they get Brandon Jackson back to be a solid #2 while Softesty plays out his contract.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Dec 21, 2011 7:08pm
I just read Todd Mcfail's first mock. What a joke. His first 10:
1. Luck (colts)
2. Kalil (rams)
3. Claiborne (vikings)
4. richardson (browns...smh)
5. Coples (Jags)
6. Kirkpatrick (buccs)
7. RGIII (dolphins)
8. Barkley (redskins)
9. Blackmon (Panthers)
10.Reiff (bills)
*He has the Browns picking Reddick (OLB from UNC) with the 24th pick.
Sorry, I just don't see 6 picks going by with only 1 QB being drafted. One of those teams(Browns) will either draft a QB or they will trade rape the redskins/dolphins. Hell if the draft falls to the Browns, and nobody has traded a pick, If i were the Browns I would trade rape the dolphins. They would only fall to 7th and still might be able to draft a QB.
1. Luck (colts)
2. Kalil (rams)
3. Claiborne (vikings)
4. richardson (browns...smh)
5. Coples (Jags)
6. Kirkpatrick (buccs)
7. RGIII (dolphins)
8. Barkley (redskins)
9. Blackmon (Panthers)
10.Reiff (bills)
*He has the Browns picking Reddick (OLB from UNC) with the 24th pick.
Sorry, I just don't see 6 picks going by with only 1 QB being drafted. One of those teams(Browns) will either draft a QB or they will trade rape the redskins/dolphins. Hell if the draft falls to the Browns, and nobody has traded a pick, If i were the Browns I would trade rape the dolphins. They would only fall to 7th and still might be able to draft a QB.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Dec 21, 2011 7:22pm
McShay is horrible.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Dec 21, 2011 7:25pm
Awesome, thanks for posting. I agree o OT, DE, and CB being really hard, I would also throw QB into that as well.BR1986FB;1023340 wrote:Vic Carrucci interviewed Heckert tonight and here is the recap. I cut & pasted this recap from an OBR poster....
[LEFT] The Senior Bowl is best way to evaluate non top talent, because it's coached by NFL coaches. Agents usually hold back top 10 talent, to avoid injuries.
- Believes Taylor, Sheard, and Rubin are all great. Taylor is fine complement to Rubin. Sheard's always got the gas stomped to the floor. Hates getting pulled.
- Did not mention anyone playing well for us at RDE.
- Thinks Little's hands are just fine. Blames drops on having not played in awhile.
- Pinkston put in a tough spot, switching to Guard in his first season, (which he's never played.) Is certainly picking up his play, in the last couple games.
- Looks for TE Jordan Cameron to play a lot, coming up, due to other injuries.
- Thinks Skrine is showing flashes of becoming our #2 Cornerback
- Hagg is adjusting to playing more often, instead of as a nickel in college.
- We're going to be active in Free Agency
- Always looks to draft talented QB's, no matter who is on our team, no matter where in the draft. (Gave Patriots drafting Mallett, recently.)
- Believes Offensive Tackles, Defensive Ends, and Cornerbacks are hardest to find in any draft, and if they are there in early rounds, you always draft them.[/LEFT]
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Dec 21, 2011 7:33pm
I agree as well, but I still wouldn't draft Coples. Not sold on him at all. He didn't have a good year this year in the ACC. Kinda reminds me of Bowers last year.Commander of Awesome;1023369 wrote:Awesome, thanks for posting. I agree o OT, DE, and CB being really hard, I would also throw QB into that as well.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Dec 21, 2011 8:00pm
I dont want Coples at all, I'd even be hesitant in the 2nd.
Midstate01
Posts: 14,766
Dec 21, 2011 8:20pm
If Blackmon falls past the browns I'll throw up.
iclfan2
Posts: 6,360
Dec 21, 2011 8:28pm
Shoutout to my cousin's mock draft. He just got hired by CBS sports solely for his draft coverage. The kid lives and breathes the draft (used to write a 300 page draft guide that Schefter once said was as good as Mel's). Also, he's a NE Ohio guy. http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/nfldraftscout-DaneBrugler
Btw, he has the Browns taking RGIII and Wright (wr) in the 1st round.
Btw, he has the Browns taking RGIII and Wright (wr) in the 1st round.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Dec 21, 2011 8:55pm
Same mock as a guy I know from SW Ohio who writes for NFLDraftbible, bleacher report, and a few other sites. Wes Stueve.iclfan2;1023439 wrote:Shoutout to my cousin's mock draft. He just got hired by CBS sports solely for his draft coverage. The kid lives and breathes the draft (used to write a 300 page draft guide that Schefter once said was as good as Mel's). Also, he's a NE Ohio guy. http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/nfldraftscout-DaneBrugler
Btw, he has the Browns taking RGIII and Wright (wr) in the 1st round.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Dec 22, 2011 5:20am
Can't say I'd bitch about this scenario but RG3's height kind of scares me. He's listed at 6'2" but I've heard that's VERY generous. I am starting to lean more toward him than Barkley in that he'll be a dual threat, able to run the ball. Barkley is less mobile than Colt McCoy which may not bode well with pass rushes like Pitt's & Baltimore's.
For once I'd like to see an "exciting" QB back there and I'm starting to think that RG3 could be that guy.
Like the Wright pick in that I've heard that same comparison to Wallace. As long as they don't use that first 1st rounder on Blackmon, I'd be cool with it. Pair Wright with Little, bring in a veteran WR to groom them, paired with an RG3 and dare I say this offense could be "explosive?"