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BR1986FB
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Oct 17, 2011 4:43pm
Just got back from Stiller Country. We went to Mountaineer Casino in West Virginia for my birthday. In breaking news....I counted a tooth (not plural)! GO BROWNS???
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Oct 17, 2011 4:44pm
Every time cribbs touches the ball, he makes plays. That's what frustrates me about this offense, we try and force it to hardesty who is dropping every pass thrown to him and not doing much with the ball. Give the ball to the people making plays like cribbs and little.
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BR1986FB
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Oct 17, 2011 4:52pm
I was pretty high on Hardesty but I'm souring on him a bit. My first concern with him was his health. Now I'm more concerned with him catching the effin ball. All of these Hillis trade rumors are bullshit. He's not an elite franchise back but he's the best they got. Anyone else get pissed watching Tyler Clutts for the Bears last night?
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BR1986FB
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Oct 17, 2011 7:38pm
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SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Oct 17, 2011 7:46pm
Don't get me started on Hardesty...you guys all know my feelings on him lol
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Oct 17, 2011 8:03pm
interesting pick up br
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BR1986FB
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Oct 17, 2011 8:05pm
Question...one of the Hillis trade rumors was a 2nd, a WR AND a RB with the Cowboys. Do you do this?
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Oct 17, 2011 8:06pm
I love Hillis...but absolutelyBR1986FB;936989 wrote:Question...one of the Hillis trade rumors was a 2nd, a WR AND a RB with the Cowboys. Do you do this?
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Oct 17, 2011 8:06pm
SportsAndLady;936991 wrote:I love Hillis...but absolutely
Agreed.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Oct 17, 2011 8:15pm
Ummm yeah. I doubt it happens now since we just picked up a RB. Who was the WR supposed to be?BR1986FB;936989 wrote:Question...one of the Hillis trade rumors was a 2nd, a WR AND a RB with the Cowboys. Do you do this?
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BR1986FB
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Oct 17, 2011 8:17pm
Didn't hear players involved just that it was supposed to be those 3 things. Dallas needs a RB with Jones going down.like_that;937007 wrote:Ummm yeah. I doubt it happens now since we just picked up a RB. Who was the WR supposed to be?
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Oct 17, 2011 8:19pm
Someone fill me in on the Hillis situation...
He's never actually demanding a trade correct? Makes 600k this year and Cleveland won't commit to a future with him? So his agent advised, or still is, advising him not to play?
It blows my mind that they don't want to lock him up and keep him around. You can never have too many backs, but if cap issues occur then I understand. From what I've been reading not everyone is sold on Hardesty. I think its a no brainer to keep Hillis around. Runs like a beast, seems like a great dude, fan favorite, etc. I don't get it.
He's never actually demanding a trade correct? Makes 600k this year and Cleveland won't commit to a future with him? So his agent advised, or still is, advising him not to play?
It blows my mind that they don't want to lock him up and keep him around. You can never have too many backs, but if cap issues occur then I understand. From what I've been reading not everyone is sold on Hardesty. I think its a no brainer to keep Hillis around. Runs like a beast, seems like a great dude, fan favorite, etc. I don't get it.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Oct 17, 2011 8:20pm
A 2nd round pick is legit. RB's are dime a dozen imo, and only go as far as the O line.BR1986FB;937009 wrote:Didn't hear players involved just that it was supposed to be those 3 things. Dallas needs a RB with Jones going down.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Oct 17, 2011 8:22pm
Everyone loves Hillis...but we're not stupid. You can't run that physical style in the NFL effectively for more than a few years. Would love to sign him to a 2 year deal paying him 5 mil a year...but he's just wanting to do that (can't blame him either...he's a smart guy). It's just a shitty situation, but I think there will be a happy ending.
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Oct 17, 2011 8:22pm
like_that;937013 wrote:A 2nd round pick is legit. RB's are dime a dozen imo, and only go as far as the O line.
Exactly....see the all time leading rusher in the NFL.
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BR1986FB
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Oct 17, 2011 8:22pm
He got injured yesterday apparently. Has never demanded a trade. There seem to be some questions as to whether he "fits" the WCO scheme. Frankly, he's the best they've got, by far.Automatik;937011 wrote:Someone fill me in on the Hillis situation...
He's never actually demanding a trade correct? Makes 600k this year and Cleveland won't commit to a future with him? So his agent advised, or still is, advising him not to play?
It blows my mind that they don't want to lock him up and keep him around. You can never have too many backs, but if cap issues occur then I understand. From what I've been reading not everyone is sold on Hardesty. I think its a no brainer to keep Hillis around. Runs like a beast, seems like a great dude, fan favorite, etc. I don't get it.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Oct 17, 2011 8:23pm
He pulled his hamstring last game, thus why he wasn't in. As I said in my previous post, RB's are dime a dozen and only go as far as their line.Automatik;937011 wrote:Someone fill me in on the Hillis situation...
He's never actually demanding a trade correct? Makes 600k this year and Cleveland won't commit to a future with him? So his agent advised, or still is, advising him not to play?
It blows my mind that they don't want to lock him up and keep him around. You can never have too many backs, but if cap issues occur then I understand. From what I've been reading not everyone is sold on Hardesty. I think its a no brainer to keep Hillis around. Runs like a beast, seems like a great dude, fan favorite, etc. I don't get it.
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Oct 17, 2011 8:25pm
I'd be interested to know how much he's looking to get. It is a shitty situation. RB's have such a short window and 600k isn't shit in NFL terms.
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BR1986FB
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Oct 17, 2011 8:27pm
From what I've heard, they had the parameters of a deal (years, $'s per year) worked out. It's the guaranteed money where the LARGE margin lies.
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Oct 17, 2011 8:28pm
i never thought going into this season that hillis would be the one we are having this discussion about. Sucks big time.
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Oct 17, 2011 8:28pm
Hillis is justified. Dude's running style isn't conducive to a long career and he needs to get paid before he gets hurt. With that being said, he hasn't handled this situation well and as far as I can tell, Shurmur hasn't handled it much betterAutomatik;937022 wrote:I'd be interested to know how much he's looking to get. It is a shitty situation. RB's have such a short window and 600k isn't shit in NFL terms.
wes_mantooth
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Oct 17, 2011 8:31pm
I just get the feeling that the organization doesn't value him at all, so he will take their deal or be gone.
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BR1986FB
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Oct 17, 2011 8:38pm
Wouldn't doubt this either. He very well could be gone.wes_mantooth;937032 wrote:I just get the feeling that the organization doesn't value him at all, so he will take their deal or be gone.
If McCoy keeps regressing I could see them packaging picks (ATL 1st) to move up for Luck if a team like the Rams ends up with the #1 overall. Think this may have been the regimes plan from the get go. Draft a QB in the 3rd (McCoy), if he pans out great, if not draft the franchise once other pieces are in place.
bases_loaded
Posts: 6,912
Oct 17, 2011 8:41pm
Ummm that Dallas deal must be bull shit because no way the Browns turn that down
Mulva
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Oct 17, 2011 8:49pm
Yeah I don't see any way a team offers a 2nd round pick for Hillis, let alone additional players on top of that.bases_loaded;937053 wrote:Ummm that Dallas deal must be bull shit because no way the Browns turn that down