OhioStatePride2003;903434 wrote:Posted this in the Browns/Dolphins thread as well...

Interviewing T.J. Ward tomorrow at 1:00 PM

http://www.brownsgab.com/2011/09/19/got-a-question-for-browns-starting-safety-t-j-ward-let-us-know/

Cool, nice job.

FYI...the last time the Browns started a season 2-1 was 2002.

Hypothetical topic was brought up on 92.3 today. If (big if) the Browns were to get out to a 8-3 or 7-4 start do you go after Terrell Owens, if healthy, for the stretch run? The consensus seemed to be "yes" by station members and a national analyst.

BR1986FB;904758 wrote:FYI...the last time the Browns started a season 2-1 was 2002.

Hypothetical topic was brought up on 92.3 today. If (big if) the Browns were to get out to a 8-3 or 7-4 start do you go after Terrell Owens, if healthy, for the stretch run? The consensus seemed to be "yes" by station members and a national analyst.

Not going to happen, but if it did, hell no.

like_that;904800 wrote:Not going to happen, but if it did, hell no.

I agree, fuck him and fuck no.

Upon Further Review: Thomas vs. Freeney
		By Dave Kolonich OBR Browns Reporter Posted Sep 20, 2011 Despite one big hit, Colts defensive end Dwight Freeney was no match for Browns top tackle, Joe Thomas. 5 Comments
Perhaps Joe Thomas is spoiling Browns fans. Despite already accumulating enough All-Pro credentials to last an entire career, the Browns’ fifth-year left tackle isn’t the most vocal or even visible of Browns players on a given Sunday. Because of – or possibly in spite of – Thomas’ success, rarely do fans even notice just how essential the Wisconsin native has become to the Browns’ hopefully burgeoning offensive success. Yet, on a play where starting quarterback Colt McCoy is trampled by a stampeding defensive end, suddenly Thomas is at the front of the collective consciousness of Browns fans. Such is life for an NFL offensive tackle. Of course, a closer inspection reveals that McCoy had as much to do with his near demise as anyone else on the field. This was a point not lost on Browns’ head coach Pat Shurmur. “Joe did a good job blocking the guy,” Shurmur said. “You just don’t have time to hold the ball on (Dwight) Freeney. I need to do a better job of instructing Colt to get rid of it.” Outside of McCoy channeling his inner Charlie Frye late in the first quarter, Thomas played what could be considered a nearly perfect game against Freeney – who is still one of the league’s top pass rushers. Although the brutal hit on McCoy could linger like visions of Atlanta’s John Abraham in the memories of Browns fans, it’s even possible to suggest that Thomas dominated Freeney. By my count, there were roughly a dozen pass attempts that necessitated a prolonged Thomas-Freeney matchup on Sunday and/or didn’t include either a three-step drop by McCoy or some variation of a screen. In most respects, Thomas won all but one of these matchups. And even then, he was pretty close. Early on, Thomas engulfed Freeney on the Browns’ first third down of the game. Thomas managed to grab onto Freeney’s arms and wrap them inside his jersey numbers. This was a trend that continued for much of the game, as Thomas negated Freeney’s maniacal spinning bursts simply by having quicker hands to wrap up the six-time Pro Bowler. Later on the same drive, Freeney tried an old-fashioned power move as he lowered his head and bulled into Thomas. Thomas lost a bit of leverage on the play, but simply guided Freeney away from the pocket and out of McCoy’s danger. On the play that resulted in McCoy’s hit, Freeney did beat Thomas by a half-step. Thomas pulled out of his stance a touch slow, allowing Freeney to slip his left arm underneath Thomas’ helmet. Thomas couldn’t fully recover with his hands, but still was able to push Freeney a step outside McCoy’s pocket. Yet, McCoy appeared frozen in the pocket – the result of solid Indianapolis coverage downfield and a rare lack of available intermediate receiving options. After Freeney’s hit on McCoy, Thomas appeared to slightly adjust his stance at the line. On passing downs, Thomas’ left leg crept back a few inches throughout the remainder of the game. However, for the most part, Thomas maintained his mostly vertical alignment – and a greater sense of heightened awareness. Obviously, Shurmur maintained confidence in Thomas by not giving his four-time Pro Bowl tackle any help blocking Freeney. The only time such a thing occurred came late in the third quarter when rookie receiver Greg Little “chipped” Freeney at the beginning of his pass route. Also, the varied combination of quick out routes to Josh Cribbs and multiple screen passes may have predicated such a strategy. "Going in we were talking about doing some more chipping and double-team stuff,” Thomas said. “But the way the game played out it was more one-on-one.” Thomas continued to get the better of Freeney in the second quarter, as McCoy and the Browns’ passing offense began to warm up. On a key third down completion to Mohamed Massaquoi, Freeney’s attempted spin move landed him snug in Thomas’ strait-jacket like embrace. A few plays later, Thomas was beaten by a step on the outside, but the veteran tackle pushed Freeney off balance. McCoy’s radar – fully functioning now after his first quarter hit – forced him to step up, scramble and then hit Evan Moore for the team’s first touchdown. In the second half, Thomas continued his mastery of Freeney. By this point in the game, Freeney was either showing Thomas a straight power move, a spin or a dash to the outside. In each case, Thomas was able to physically re-direct Freeney. On one third quarter play, Thomas got away with a hand to Freeney’s face, gave a bruising chest punch and then pushed Freeney inside. For the remainder of the game, Thomas either shoved Freeney inside next to left guard Jason Pinkston or pushed Freeney far out of McCoy’s pocket. In both instances, McCoy was able to step up and scramble outside his compromised pocket – which eventually led to some of the offense’s biggest plays of the game. As the game reached its fourth quarter depths, the Browns were already fully entrenched in victory mode. A steady dose of Peyton Hillis meant that Freeney’s on-field impact was eliminated. In the end, Thomas emerged victorious over one of the league’s highest profile defensive ends – a player who also doubled as one of the few real threats found on a Manning-less Indianapolis squad. And for the faint of heart, Colt McCoy did survive.

http://cle.scout.com/2/1108591.html

Yeah, except for that one hit, which was probably McCoy's fault (held it WAY too long) more than Thomas', Freeney was a non-factor.

BR1986FB;905218 wrote:Yeah, except for that one hit, which was probably McCoy's fault (held it WAY too long) more than Thomas', Freeney was a non-factor.

It's all good, JT can fuck up once every 5 years. I forgive him.

like_that;905284 wrote:It's all good, JT can fuck up once every 5 years. I forgive him.

He did eff up 3x's, if I recall, last year in that all 3 QB's high ankle sprains came from the man Thomas was supposed to block.

Joe Thomas was pwned by John Abraham last season on the Falcons.

Commander of Awesome;905296 wrote:Joe Thomas was pwned by John Abraham last season on the Falcons.

Indeed

http://www.cantonrep.com/browns/x2046632419/Hard-to-tell-yet-Do-Browns-have-a-good-defense

http://www.cantonrep.com/browns/x2046632409/Can-Shurmur-be-a-home-repair-man-for-Browns

http://www.ohio.com/sports/browns/from-the-other-sideline-miami-dolphins-could-make-waves-sunday-1.236127

http://www.ohio.com/sports/browns/browns-notebook-top-draft-picks-pay-off-1.235981

http://www.news-herald.com/articles/2011/09/21/sports/nh4528180.txt

http://www.daytondailynews.com/dayton-sports/cleveland-browns/win-puts-shurmur-in-better-mood-1256135.html

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2011/09/post_97.html

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2011/09/post_98.html

http://chronicle.northcoastnow.com//category/sports/browns-notes/

Cribbs was the AFC Special Teams Player of the Week

http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/article-1/Cribbs-named-Special-Teams-Player-of-the-Week/30f73dfa-ab39-4edd-bcc2-94d866f686e8

Well, well, well....I'll believe THIS when I see it....

http://blogs.cantonrep.com/freshbrownies/live-from-berea-pashos-update/

LOL I saw :thumbup: that shot on the TV during the Browns-Colts game. I laughed then, too. The kid will be fine. He's probably already seen more wins in his young life from watching the Colts than Browns fans have seen in the past 20 years (minus the void).

Writerbuckeye;905971 wrote:LOL I saw :thumbup: that shot on the TV during the Browns-Colts game. I laughed then, too. The kid will be fine. He's probably already seen more wins in his young life from watching the Colts than Browns fans have seen in the past 20 years (minus the void).

That's what I was saying in the in game thread. The father should take the little brat to a Cleveland game in Cleveland. See if the kid will cry after a Colts game ever again.

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2011/09/cleveland_browns_ahtyba_rubin.html

http://www.facebook.com/clevelandbrowns/posts/237325619653163#!/photo.php?fbid=157606277650715&set=a.108084685936208.12882.100002040324548&type=1&theater

One of my buddies is selling his season tickets if anyone is interested. 7 games with PSL's for $1,000.00 (2 seats). He got seats in another section.

BR1986FB;906619 wrote:One of my buddies is selling his season tickets if anyone is interested. 7 games with PSL's for $1,000.00 (2 seats). He got seats in another section.

If he has trouble getting rid of it, I may be able to take 1 or 2 games off of his hands. What section?

ts1227;906686 wrote:If he has trouble getting rid of it, I may be able to take 1 or 2 games off of his hands. What section?

347...splitting the uprights right down the middle

I could take a game off his hand too if he can't sell them.

He's only selling them as a packaged deal so the person can move forward as a season ticket holder.

BR1986FB;906827 wrote:He's only selling them as a packaged deal so the person can move forward as a season ticket holder.

do you get these every year?

DeyDurkie5;907049 wrote:do you get these every year?

I'm not sure how season tickets & PSL's work.

Nice tidbits on building a team...

[h=2]Heckert delivers state-of-Browns nuggets[/h] Sep 22nd, 2011 @ 4:52 pm by Steve Doerschuk

General Manager Tom Heckert, on the other hand, hunkered down and delivered a state-of-the-team report Thursday.
• Issue: Colt McCoy is taking a long test drive to see if he can be the answer at quarterback.
Heckert: “He’s done a good job. Obviously, we hope he’ll improve every week. If he can continue to improve every week, we think we’ll be in really good shape.”
• Issue: Heckert has re-shaped the roster with the last two drafts.
Heckert: “Right now, they look pretty good, but I’m not sitting here ready to say we’re ready to win four Super Bowls just because of these two drafts.
“The Shawn Lauvaos and Jason Pinkstons (starting guards taken in Round 3 and Round 4) … they’re the ones you have to hit on. You need to hit on first- and second-round guys or you’re going to have a disaster.
“If you can hit on third-, fourth-, fifth- and sixth-rounders, that’s how you really build a team.”
• Issue: Tony Pashos has missed the first two games with a leg injury.
Heckert: “Right now it looks like sooner or later he’s gonna be back.”
• Issue: Peyton Hillis’ per-carry average was 4.4 in 2010 and is 3.4 through two games.
Heckert: “Obviously we want him to be better, but … new left guard, new right tackle, new fullback, new offense. It’s gonna come. I really think we’re gonna be able to run the ball.”
• Issue: Is it fair to saw veteran Lawrence Vickers was a better lead blocker than Marecic, and that the team believes Marecic will get to that level?
Heckert: “I don’t think that’s fair at all. If you watch the tape … Owen has blocked very well.”
• Issue: Heckert agrees with the consensus Joe Haden can be an elite cornerback. Can T.J. Ward be an elite safety?
Heckert: “Obviously, T.J. is a super-physical guy, a very confident guy. Now the situation is (his performance in pass coverage). We think he can cover. We’ll find out.”
• Issue: Brian Robiskie doesn’t have a catch through two games.
Heckert: “There are gonna be games when he’s gonna catch balls and other people aren’t.”
• Issue: D’Qwell Jackson is adjusting to life as a 4-3 middle linebacker.
Heckert: “He’s been fantastic. He really is a smart player. … Even Eric (Mangini) admitted he’d be a better player in a 4-3.”
• Issue: The Browns didn’t sign big-name free agents. Are they sitting on money until next year?
Heckert: (Shaking his head before the question was finished) No … My goodness, no. Randy Lerner has been great. No, no … not at all.”

http://blogs.cantonrep.com/freshbrownies/heckert-delivers-state-of-browns-nuggets/