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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Aug 29, 2011 6:35pm
Supposedly a week or so ago. LeCharles Bentley was the one he supposedly said it to so take that fwiw.lhslep134;876708 wrote:When was this said?
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Aug 29, 2011 6:37pm
Even if he means it, if he works his ass off here and gives it 100% on every play then I'm OK with it.BR1986FB;876712 wrote:Supposedly a week or so ago. LeCharles Bentley was the one he supposedly said it to so take that fwiw.
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zach24oz
Posts: 598
Aug 29, 2011 6:37pm
I expect the Browns to win the opener, and think it will happen. I think the offense and defense will play well.
royal_k
Posts: 4,423
Aug 29, 2011 6:40pm
You may be OK with it. But if this gets out, most Browns fans won't be. It's pretty much a slap in the face to Cleveland.lhslep134;876713 wrote:Even if he means it, if he works his ass off here and gives it 100% on every play then I'm OK with it.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Aug 29, 2011 6:42pm
I think the Browns are the better team too but I never take a season opener for granted. Too many people think the Bengals game is a "gimme." All they (Cincy) have to do is establish a running game, play good defense and hope Dalton doesn't screw up and they could win (the Flacco/Sanchez/Roethlisberger "game manager for rookies" formula). Personally, I'd LOVE to see the Browns blow them out of the water to set the tone for the season.zach24oz;876714 wrote:I expect the Browns to win the opener, and think it will happen. I think the offense and defense will play well.
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zach24oz
Posts: 598
Aug 29, 2011 6:48pm
I don't think the Bengales defense will stop the Browns O enough though...and I dont think they are going to be able to run the ball that great...if Taylor and Rubin are getting a huge push against the OL then our D should be fine...we'll see what happens though. Crazy things do happen sometimes.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Aug 29, 2011 7:16pm
Play out the duration of your contract, produce 100%, and if you move on after the contract is over, so be it--good luck.
Just don't hold a tv broadcast on a decision of where you'll be going
Just don't hold a tv broadcast on a decision of where you'll be going
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Aug 29, 2011 7:41pm
True storySportsAndLady;876756 wrote: Just don't hold a tv broadcast on a decision of where you'll be going
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Aug 29, 2011 7:44pm
It is ok if you are raising money for charity
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Aug 29, 2011 8:18pm
I hate that argument so bad lolwes_mantooth;876784 wrote:It is ok if you are raising money for charity
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Aug 29, 2011 9:03pm
Yeah, that "game manager for rookies" formula only works when you have a solid team around you. The Bengals aren't nearly as good as any of those other teams.BR1986FB;876722 wrote:I think the Browns are the better team too but I never take a season opener for granted. Too many people think the Bengals game is a "gimme." All they (Cincy) have to do is establish a running game, play good defense and hope Dalton doesn't screw up and they could win (the Flacco/Sanchez/Roethlisberger "game manager for rookies" formula). Personally, I'd LOVE to see the Browns blow them out of the water to set the tone for the season.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Aug 30, 2011 5:25am
I don't exactly think the Browns are a juggernaut by any stretch and no game should really be taken for granted by the fans.se-alum;876937 wrote:Yeah, that "game manager for rookies" formula only works when you have a solid team around you. The Bengals aren't nearly as good as any of those other teams.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Aug 30, 2011 10:48am
Browns signed G/T Oniel Cousins (Ravens) off waivers. He is fairly young (27) which is the best thing I can say about him. If the Rats didn't want him with their craptastic line he can't be too good. I think the end is VERY near, career-wise, for Eric Steinbach.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Aug 30, 2011 10:51am
I wonder how losing Steiny will effect Thomas. He's played every game in the pros with Stein next to him and I always hear how consistency is key to a good oline.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Aug 30, 2011 2:22pm
Enjoy....
| 7 minutes ago - by Marty Gitlin - TE Watson should make quick return from hip issue Coach Pat Shurmur said TE Benjamin Watson (hip) will be "out here quickly." Watson, who led the team in catches and receiving yards in 2010, has looked solid throughout camp. Browns RapidReports |
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| 8 minutes ago - by Marty Gitlin - Cousins pickup unrelated to Steinbach situation Coach Pat Shurmur said the pickup of OL Oniel Cousins had been planned after he was released by the Ravens and was unrelated to the potential loss for the season of LG Eric Steinbach. Cousins played RT in his first practice with the Browns. Browns RapidReports |
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| 9 minutes ago - by Marty Gitlin - Shurmur awaits results of LG Steinbach's back surgery LG Eric Steinbach had surgery on his back Tuesday morning after treatment failed to relieve a disc problem. Coach Pat Shurmur said he has yet to be updated about the result of the procedure or if Steinbach and is unsure if he will be placed on IR. Browns RapidReports |
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| Aug. 30, 2011 12:45 p.m. - by Marty Gitlin - RT Pashos on field but doesn't practice Tuesday morning RT Tony Pashos did not take part in Tuesday morning's practice. He was seen talking to a trainer, but remained on the field. Browns RapidReports |
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| Aug. 30, 2011 12:37 p.m. - by Marty Gitlin - Battle for last RB spot between Porter, Smith continues The battle for the last RB spot between Quinn Porter and Armond Smith continues to be interesting. Smith is more explosive, but far less dependable hanging on to the ball. Browns RapidReports |
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| Aug. 30, 2011 12:18 p.m. - by Marty Gitlin - Cousins lines up as backup RT, likely won't start at LG Oniel Cousins is lining up at RT with the backups. Though Cousins can play either guard or tackle, that indicates he won't be Eric Steinbach's replacement at LG. Rookie Jason Pinkston will almost certainly keep that opportunity. Browns RapidReports |
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| Aug. 30, 2011 12:05 p.m. - by Marty Gitlin - Gocong, Watson, Mitchell on bikes LB Chris Gocong (neck), TE Benjamin Watson (leg) and WR Carlton Mitchell (unspecified) are on the stationary bikes. Mitchell returned Monday from a finger injury, but had a slight limp later in practice. Browns RapidReports |
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| Aug. 30, 2011 12:04 p.m. - by Marty Gitlin - Browns sign OL Cousins; LG Steinbach likely headed to IR The Browns on Tuesday morning were faced with making room for newly acquired OL Oniel Cousins by 4 p.m. that afternoon. Speculation was that LG Eric Steinbach will be placed on IR and will have surgery for a disc problem in his back. Browns RapidReports |
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Aug 30, 2011 3:40pm
Steinbach officially placed on IR. It was nice knowin' ya, Steiny.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Aug 30, 2011 3:41pm
Hearing talk that it could be the end of his career.
OQB
Posts: 6,679
Aug 30, 2011 3:44pm
SMH....the minute we think we have a solid line karma hits you in the mouth and reminds you this is Cleveland. :mad:
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Aug 30, 2011 3:45pm
I think that's a "no brainer." Undersized/technician O-Lineman with disc problems in his back? Yeah, he's likely done.Commander of Awesome;877623 wrote:Hearing talk that it could be the end of his career.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Aug 30, 2011 3:46pm
I'm not too concerned about this. They were going in that direction anyway. His play had slipped over the past few years.OQB;877628 wrote:SMH....the minute we think we have a solid line karma hits you in the mouth and reminds you this is Cleveland. :mad:
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Aug 30, 2011 3:53pm
I hear you, two rookies on the line is a bit worrisome. Hopefully Pinkston steps up and performs.
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Drums of War
Posts: 356
Aug 30, 2011 4:06pm
Just sitting back and thinking for a moment, if Pinkston can step up and be reliable that puts a good YOUNG left side together that could be an anchor for many years. This especially holds with the extension of Thomas.
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Drums of War
Posts: 356
Aug 30, 2011 4:07pm
It is really hard to be "glass half full guy", especially in Cleveland.
dazedconfused
Posts: 2,662
Aug 30, 2011 4:09pm
especially when every athlete is made of glassDrums of War;877647 wrote:It is really hard to be "glass half full guy", especially in Cleveland.
Writerbuckeye
Posts: 4,745
Aug 30, 2011 4:17pm
If the front office doesn't make a move beyond Cousins to try and shore up the depth on the OL -- and McCoy ends up getting hurt because of poor line play -- Heckert should be put in stocks on public square and give people a chance to throw rotten tomatoes at him.
I don't give a rat's furry behind what your overall philosophy is for building a team, in a situation like this you find the best OL you can to protect your (potential) franchise QB. If McCoy is unable to play all the games this year and grow his game...then it doesn't matter what your philosophy is because you will basically be set back a year in his development.
I don't give a rat's furry behind what your overall philosophy is for building a team, in a situation like this you find the best OL you can to protect your (potential) franchise QB. If McCoy is unable to play all the games this year and grow his game...then it doesn't matter what your philosophy is because you will basically be set back a year in his development.