bo shemmy3337;620160 wrote:People need to realize that Pryor is not that good and really only has made an impact on 1 game in his career IMO. All the other games they won were from the other players on the team. He has done nothing more than played average IMO. Any descent QB would win the games he has because of the overall team defense and coaching. He has been nothing but trouble off the field and I think it is time for OSU fans to move on. Beating Michigan is not a huge accomplishment anymore and let's face it, that's all he has going for him. They won Big 10 tittles before him and he is just keeping pace and not making the team better IMO. Let Miller come in and see what he can do.

Pick6;620167 wrote:cool, obviously a michigan fan would want us to "move on" from the best player on our team.

bo shemmy3337;620176 wrote:if you think he is the best player on your team your don't watch football much.

bo shemmy3337;620176 wrote:if you think he is the best player on your team your don't watch football much.

Pick6;620179 wrote:without him, we would lose 5 games, easy. No other player would have that big of an impact on our team. how has he been "all trouble since he's been here"..ok he's said some dumb things recently and the tattoo/selling incident. This has happened in the last month, not over a course of 3 years. I'd much rather have him doing that stuff than robbing frats, getting DUIs, assaulting girlfriends, etc.

bo shemmy3337;620186 wrote:Agreed he has not been that bad off the field but yes there are several guys who make a bigger impact than he does. It just so happens they have guys behind them that can play as well where Pryor is the only guy. clearly the QB gets a lot of love because of stats but OSU has some great WR's that make some impressive grabs. I just think there are other players on the OSU team that play their position better then he plays his.

Automatik;620191 wrote:What players? Who made the clutch play on 4th in the Iowa game?

The receivers who had he drops in the Wisky game?

bo shemmy3337;620194 wrote:Again he is not a bad QB but he is not great either. You gave one example where he made a good play in the entire year when they really needed him to which makes my point. They never need him to make a huge play because the rest of the team is good enough to beat teams no matter who the QB is.(granted he is a decent qb)

All I am saying is the team is not better then what they were before he got there.

bo shemmy3337;620194 wrote:Again he is not a bad QB but he is not great either. You gave one example where he made a good play in the entire year when they really needed him to which makes my point. They never need him to make a huge play because the rest of the team is good enough to beat teams no matter who the QB is.(granted he is a decent qb)

All I am saying is the team is not better then what they were before he got there.

bo shemmy3337;620194 wrote: All I am saying is the team is not better then what they were before he got there.

Pick6;620208 wrote:in all honesty, look at osu the past decade..many big ten championships, national title appearances, national title, bcs appearances and wins..its hard to top that.

bo shemmy3337;620230 wrote:He was supposed to be the one that got them over the hump and win national tittles, before he got there they could not win The Big Game, remember? OSU has yet to get in the big game with him there. Not all his fault obviously but he is no where near the QB as most OSU fans think he is.

bo shemmy3337;620230 wrote:He was supposed to be the one that got them over the hump and win national tittles, before he got there they could not win The Big Game, remember? OSU has yet to get in the big game with him there. Not all his fault obviously but he is no where near the QB as most OSU fans think he is.

Pick6;620240 wrote:I can only think of one game where he cost us..and that was against Purdue. I blame the Wisconsin game, USC(at home), and the BCS bowl against Texas on the defense.

bo shemmy3337;620251 wrote:He is not costing you games but he is not winning you games all by him self either. If he is not on the team at all next year they still win at least 9 games. When jake locker is gone how many games will Washington win? or the kid from Standford? What happened when Tim Tebow left at Florida. OSU has a much more talent than what people give them credit for as a team. If he would have choose Michigan, he would not be in the sugar bowl right now and you can take that to the bank. He is not great, OSU is.

Pick6;620255 wrote:well michigan has some pretty good recruiting classes if im not mistaken..and you have denard, who is supposedly better. Why arent you in the sugar bowl? Coaching. There is a pretty general agreement that tressel doesnt use pryor to the best of his ability. Pryor even knows that himself. One of the big reasons he chose OSU is to play in a pro-style offense and develop himself as a passer to have a chance to be a QB in the pros.

Big Gain;620785 wrote:You are REALLY mistaken, not many defensive studs in previous or future classes. RichRod's problem, he thought he could win in the Big Ten with the same caliber of defensive players he had at WV. Win games 40-30. WRONG!

Big Gain;620817 wrote:He was a "god" in highschool, but only a neophyte would say he's been a "god" at Ohio State. Hell, I've seen more people on here say he should play Tight End or Wideout instead of QB. HOWEVER, he is the 11th rated QB in the country.

bo shemmy3337;620803 wrote:Agreed, nothing was said about Michigan at all on my part yet he brought them up. Denard was not supposed the savior and most thought he would be a slot WR at first anyway. Pryor has been god ever sense he chose to go to the university of Ohio state and he has not come close to the hype IMO.

Automatik;620831 wrote:So with a 30-4 record not being "close to the hype" what would be need to be? Undefeated? lol...you are reaching.